wow, that was a weird one, so used epr through preware, everything was updated(except os) and worked perfect, or so i thought... all patches were removed. verified with qi. nothing there!

however preware said they where all there, so i couldnt reinstall them because they werent there but preware thought they were, tried everything. uninstalled preware, reinstalled, nothing.left with a partial and reinstalled preware and bam, back working perfect.

no clue what happened there but its all good now and im patchin her back up. truely amazing thing to me was that the palm profile WORKED! well except for remembering my passwords to my emails/ facebook/ aims. ok, bed time.