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  1.    #201  
    A note on LuneOS "radar": Sooner or later, legacy webOS devices will die due to battery failure (and no replacements), hardware failure or no more community updates to the software that keeps them usable. The idea of LuneOS radar is to keep a collective eye on the state of that project and also possible hardware with a view to eventual transition to LuneOS.

    The User Group is not the webOS Ports team, although there is some overlap of members. We will necessarily follow the lead of the ports team and it may be that it will be obvious when the SW is 'ready'* and that the team may settle on a 'reference device'. However, it's more likely that the SW will develop from solid basics to more complex or unusual functions as new apps are created or refined. The appeal of LuneOS will also be wider if (via Lineage, Halium or PostmarketOS) it is available for a wide range of devices. So this project could:
    1. Supply recommendations to users about the current state (usability and user experience) of LuneOS
    2. Suggest a phone / tablet that offers an experience closest to legacy devices.
    3. Port relevant projects or existing apps to LuneOS or even create new ones.
    4. Recommend ways to transfer data and generally create a bridge to LuneOS for Legacy users or users other systems.

    So suggestions for specific goals and even a better name are welcomed.
    The webOS Ports team is small and will likely be focused on the 'core' system. What little success webOS had largely came from users developing apps and this will probably be needed for LuneOS to gain any traction. This is a process that could be encouraged by the user group.

    *It's generally agreed that LuneOS is not yet ready and won't be with the next release, but there are a number of interesting possible devices appearing.
    Last edited by Preemptive; 10/14/2019 at 10:09 AM.
  2.    #202  
    Summary of Meeting No. 29 of The webOS User Group, on November 10th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode.
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    In essence, there were no updates except:

    • 4.7 LuneOS testing protocol. (Preemptive / others)
      A couple of additions to webOS Ports' checklist were noted and added to the testing thread.
    • 5.3. LG's webOS Open Source Edition
      Version 2.0 has been released. The Raspberry Pi 4 is the reference hardware.
    • 5.4. Possible LuneOS "radar".
      There is a new release: Cafe Eggnog. The project was reported to be no where near beta status.
    • 6. Priority Project Selection.
      The SSL Squid proxy can be considered complete and usable, so is no longer a priority. The TLS upgrade will retain priority status for now.
    • 8. Date of next meeting.
      We've given ourselves a month and a half to get something done before the end of the year, so chose the 29th of December 2019 for the next meeting. Same time: 1700GMT.

    The full log of the twenty seventh meeting is here: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20191111.txt: SUN November 10th
    Last edited by Preemptive; 11/10/2019 at 02:13 PM.
  3.    #203  
    Proposed agenda for Meeting No. 30 of The webOS User Group, on December 29th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode. Instructions to register user (nick) name.
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    The agenda is the same as the previous meeting, but I'm thinking that I might go back through old meetings and add any dormant projects in case there is anything to revive or even update.

    Last edited by Preemptive; 11/12/2019 at 01:30 AM.
  4. #205  
    I'm not 100% sure if I'll be able to make it, but I have made progress with updating OpenSSL! I'll share more info in the other thread.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre3 using Forums
    Did you know:

    webOS ran on a Treo 800 during initial development.
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  5. #206  
    I'm out at lunch ( invited ), so depends when we finish and how i manage to crawl back driving 40km :P
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  6. #207  
    Ok, so I won't be able to join as I will be out, but here's my update:

    I got OpenSSL 1.0.2 compiled and working with minor tweaks. Good news is TLS 1.2 is supported. Getting OpenSSL 1.1.1 working would take more work. Will probably aim for that next.

    The bad news... I am sure some other binaries are using OpenSSL in bad ways (directly accessing data in structures, putting structures on the stack or using them in ways which requires the structure size to be known by the user and not instead passing pointers). One of these happens to be Node... And the one structure it uses did increase between 0.9.8 and 1.0.*... So, I am in the process of upgrading Node so that this will work. So with any luck, I'll be done with that soon (I have nodejs from Open webOS running, but I just need to update the webOS node modules).

    Once I have that, I need to build the ipks so that others can install. And then I need to setup a clean(er) make system.

    I'm looking at a merging a couple of projects (OpenSSL-Updater and the OpenSSL Certificate Updater) to streamline some of this.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre3 using Forums
    Did you know:

    webOS ran on a Treo 800 during initial development.
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  7.    #208  
    **PLEASE NOTE: NOTHING HERE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A PROMISE AND NO TIME LINES WILL BE MADE PUBLIC. ANY PROGRESS WILL BE HELPED IF MORE PEOPLE OFFER ASSISTANCE.**

    Summary of Meeting No. 30 of The webOS User Group, on December 30th 2019 at 1700 GMT / UTC. IRC: #webOS channel on Freenode.

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    The full log of the thirtieth meeting is here: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos/webos.20191230.txt: SUN December 29th.

    A LIST OF USER GROUP PROJECTS
    Last edited by Preemptive; 12/31/2019 at 08:07 AM. Reason: webOS, webOS User Group
  8.    #209  
    More updates from dkirker:
    Is the end of support for TLS 1.0 & 1.1 a problem? - webOS Nation Forums

    Also, a minor thing I meant to bring up (but forgot). This poster mentions and error with a Preware clock feed. I've seen this problem and I think it might be a built in feed. https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ml#post3456422 Maybe this feed needs fixing or disabling? I could find the person who did the recent preware updates maybe...
  9. #210  
    Quote Originally Posted by Preemptive View Post
    More updates from dkirker:
    Is the end of support for TLS 1.0 & 1.1 a problem? - webOS Nation Forums

    Also, a minor thing I meant to bring up (but forgot). This poster mentions and error with a Preware clock feed. I've seen this problem and I think it might be a built in feed. https://forums.webosnation.com/hp-to...ml#post3456422 Maybe this feed needs fixing or disabling? I could find the person who did the recent preware updates maybe...
    I did the last Preware updates

    Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
    HP Veer (daily driver), HP Pre 3, HP Touchpad Proper 4G/LTE (Sierra MC7710), HP Touchpad 32GB WiFi, Palm Pre 2
  10.    #211  
    Quote Originally Posted by Herrie View Post
    I did the last Preware updates

    Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk
    Ahhh! I'm confusing two similar things and was thinking of this: [Release] WebOS Quick Install v4.7.0u (for real this time) - webOS Nation Forums
  11.    #212  
    Sorry, totally slipped my mind!

    I suspect there's not much to report. I'm suggesting we just skip to the 16th of February.
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