[Aressel]

It looks like HP has removed the SDK/PDK (almost).

I went to download a copy of the Pre (1.4.5) emulator today to take care of some troubleshooting, and found that the SDK download page now just 404s out. Fortunately, Google comes to the rescue!

SDK-PDK Download - HP webOS Developer Center (Google Cache)

While the page may be gone, the files are still available from the download servers. I'll post them here - you may want to grab these while you still can.

Windows 32-bit 3.0.5 SDK/PDK

Windows 64-bit 3.0.5 SDK/PDK

Mac 3.0.5 SDK/PDK

Novacom for 32-bit Linux

Novacom for 64-bit Linux

Linux 3.0.5 SDK

webOS 1.3.5 Emulator Image

webOS 1.4.0 Emulator Image

webOS 1.4.1 Emulator Image

webOS 1.4.5 Emulator Image

webOS 2.1.0 Emulator Image

webOS 2.2.0 Emulator Image (Pre3)

webOS 2.2.4 Emulator Image (Pre2 and Pre3)

[Remy X]

Oh ****!

The documentation could be next...

[John Steffes]

Send as much email to pdc@palm.com, their support group for HP/Palm support...

Ask them to continue support for their users?

[Aressel]

Send as much email to pdc@palm.com, their support group for HP/Palm support...

Ask them to continue support for their users?

Done! I hope that the rest of the developers will join me too.

[Remy X]

@Aressel and John Steffes,

Thanks!


...

Update:

Archive.org has made a backup of this page and many others (documentation), however it is up to us to keep a doomsday archive of all Doctors and emulator images, as well as the open source packages that Palm has released when it used GPL code to build portions of the OS.

That said, as someone who has dug through the documentation and found dead links (URLs that point to the wrong directory trees) and upon investigating those, found the original page but also a sister page with slightly different information (same subject in different context), i'm still worried... this is a wake-up call for me, to spider the docs before they are taken down and then try to dig up those "easter egg" pages that may have escaped being indexed/archived.

Sure, i have better things to do, but the docs have been a lifesaver on many occasions even if they are convoluted and not always in best form... i hope they'll stay up for another month or two..

[clhdpgh]

Do you think this could be in preparation for a change over to Open Webos in the near future?

[Remy X]

Do you think this could be in preparation for a change over to Open Webos in the near future?

No.

HP still has the rights and obligations to the Legacy devices and has washed its hands of Open webOS. LG owns that now, and Enyo is being funded by both companies.

But there's no good reason for them to take down the SDK. If they want to prevent any new app from being submitted to the App Catalog, they should just say so and not play childish games.

[bluenote]

i thought HP had obligations for cloud services but LG also bought the old webOS as they needed parts of the proprietary code contained in the old webOS?

[Remy X]

i thought HP had obligations for cloud services but LG also bought the old webOS as they needed parts of the proprietary code contained in the old webOS?

Not Legacy

LG bought the rights to use proprietary code that was stripped out of Open, but they have not bought webOS v.1.4 - 3.0.5 proper. Those are published ROMs that shipped on devices built by Palm GBU, and for as long as Palm remains a part of HP, Legacy will stay under their care.

[GMMan]

Blarg, that's annoying. They can't leave us old-timers the bits needed to have fun with code? Sure, toss out the old Enyo, but where would you find replacement for IPK packager, profiler, and other miscellaneous, device tools? I bet they're going to disable app submissions next. (I think, and hope I still have a backup of SDK 3.0.5 somewhere.) BTW, open source packages are hosted on the Open webOS site, so hopefully they won't disappear any time soon (and if they do, we can always make a claim to get the source code under the GPL).

[pcworld]

Could anyone who made a backup of these files post the sha256sums?

[Grabber5.0]

Could anyone who made a backup of these files post the sha256sums?

Are you referring to the sdk installs and emulator images? I can look through what I have. I've kept many versions of the SDK install and emulator images, however unfortunately disorganized. )

[pcworld]

Are you referring to the sdk installs and emulator images?

Yes, I mean the files listed in the first post, so that we'll be able to identify the original files should they shut down their servers and "alternative" means of downloading the files should come up.
Though I might just download the most important ones within the next few days so that I have a backup myself.

[Remy X]

Are you referring to the sdk installs and emulator images? I can look through what I have. I've kept many versions of the SDK install and emulator images, however unfortunately disorganized. )

Same here.

I have the Palm SDK and the Touchpad SDK (win32) as well as 3 or 4 emulator images. I'll post the checksums sometime in the next day or two when i get the correct hard drive out of a box in the closet.

[UberschallSamsara]

Totally agree that it's not classy at all of HP to just quietly kill the links.

Considering how links and pages have been shuffled around over time and considering how the SDK download link is currently conspicuously not actually a link while the rest of the links on the dev resources page seem to be working, it looks like more than just an oversight.

The dev forums have been vandalized with spam for quite a while now - obviously that gives (reinforces?) the impression that HP just doesn't care.

I've got old SDK's on disks as well (unorganized and incomplete, and I doubt I kept most of the 3.0 EAP betas).

How about the old Eclipse plugins? Only way I ever knew to get them was off the CDN, and I'm not Eclipse savvy enough to know how to locally archive those. (Not that I used them heavily but maybe some folks who did would prefer they not just disappear unannounced.)

[pcworld]

sha256sums of the files linked to in the first post:

4eab815ef899cb7b305e0586bf6549849d596d09442b5edfc6f4bd93fbc1e67b  HP_webOS_SDK-Win-3.0.5-676-x64.exe
5312f0ab25a25fc8e58d1bc513e905926f72b7a557c45879a4dd20524b145f4b  HP_webOS_SDK-Win-3.0.5-676-x86.exe
9dd818f1279245a7388275b4189523de1b01d1c9a8888f69b2a9c84ffda1a62f  palm-novacom_1.0.80_amd64.deb
9fc7b772bdfa1f3eb1b8a02de89db5146d64437a2c331063e677d4b9f579f4e3  palm-novacom_1.0.80_i386.deb
4bbc0e614204232f386a5f338d06af7168be25dc0a8046dc256ea96455efaaf8  palm-sdk_3.0.5-svn528736-pho676_i386.deb
c2cd8346fd8e92e7090766652160879b0416ee1d4922d4942159c8c33442464f  Palm_webOS_SDK.3.0.5.676.dmg
8b4d22dd9f18fbb08f799f3ed12554bd23001af89e4148fb55fbbcc60f6ee647  SDK 1.3.5.368.vmdk.zip
daf0ad867a0647ad117bc920cb57272c9dd26da2b51700ea086d475a039e92e1  SDK 1.4.0.420.vmdk.zip
ae56672601437924f80e52fef9f0f523d35d7c980f63bb66b9cadea60aaa85a2  SDK 1.4.1.427.vmdk.zip
43ee680bf6859664070143769853574bc52cf980d5392828137ab80c31c55fbe  SDK 1.4.5.465.vmdk.zip
6723b64413d542d90c41935a3db282c89dbd2310922837942bd4580f39693a25  SDK 2.1.0.519.vmdk.zip
83bb88cc60519e72ff2ce404d8e95c25a2172b73456a6cad1a19b971d7580d94  SDK-2210.vmdk.zip
027cfb7ac74eb015db4006d3a0c7303c182f9ed70a10eb4cfaef807184d6eba6  SDK-2222.vmdk.zip

[UberschallSamsara]

I wrote to pdc@palm.com on August 2 to ask what's up w/the dead links and have gotten no response as of this writing.

Anyone else drop them a note? Any response?

[John Steffes]

I wrote to pdc@palm.com on August 2 to ask what's up w/the dead links and have gotten no response as of this writing.

Anyone else drop them a note? Any response?

They have responded with nothing for me...

But I expected that, but the page still fails...

https://developer.palm.com/content/r..._download.html

404: Not Found

The requested document was not found on this server.

[MAMISHO]

And macOX?

[flobo]

Phew! Glad I dumped all the SDK parts I needed before they got the chance to remove them forever...

Being an eclipse guy I also dumped the update site for local usage Here it is for anyone interested: http://www.filedropper.com/webossdkeclipse_1