Alright a couple of days ago i posted a comment where my pre was turning off by itself when my phone still had a lot of battery. So yesterday i did the webos doctor and restore my phone. Right now my phone doesnt have preware and its still not in developer mode. All of this happen after i install the patch for no limit in apps. So im guessing thats what mess up my pre. So be careful on the patches you put on your pre.