Web browser needs a scrollbar

**dvigilante1** · 09/07/2009, 07:33 PM

Hopefully the next update includes a scrollbar. In landscape you can use the gesture area but you can't type web addresses or access bookmarks. I am constantly accidentally clicking links. Now that I think about it, don't most web browsers include a scrollbar. Blazer, winmo, skyfire, and opera all have scrollbars.

**halcyoncmdr** · 09/07/2009, 07:37 PM

Opera doesn't have a scrollbar on my Touch Pro. It is a tap and drag technique just like the Pre.

I don't have any issues browsing personally on my Pre, haven't accidentally clicked a link I didn't mean to yet.

**gage006** · 09/07/2009, 07:39 PM

No, it really doesn't.

**pdfierro** · 09/07/2009, 07:44 PM

Maybe it's just your personal preference, but a scrollbar would really detract from the experience if anything. We have a touch-screen, and this is a smartphone, not a computer. Just my opinion.

**JimFNJ** · 09/07/2009, 07:46 PM

Wow

**dvigilante1** · 09/07/2009, 07:46 PM

Its been awhile since I ahd my htc touch (not pro) but I recall opera mini having a scrollbar. In any case I guess palm won't put the scrollbar as a priority since third party apps will include it. Seems like a simple feature to add since blazer had it.

**groovy** · 09/07/2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by pdfierro

Maybe it's just your personal preference, but a scrollbar would really detract from the experience if anything. We have a touch-screen, and this is a smartphone, not a computer. Just my opinion.

+1. The screen is small enough as is.

**jhoff80** · 09/07/2009, 07:59 PM

I think it does need an indicator to show where on the page you are, if not a scrollbar. Something that auto-fades a few seconds after you scroll on the page would be perfect.

**drizek** · 09/07/2009, 08:09 PM

The browser needs an option to get rid of the back/forward buttons. Thats what gestures are for.

There should also be a gesture for reload where you start in one half of the gesture area, move up into the display and come back down on the other half. Get rid of as much clutter from the browser as possible IMO.

**dvigilante1** · 09/07/2009, 08:18 PM

I don't think people complained about the scrollbar taking up space on the treo and centro lines. Also the back/forward buttons need to go since it is redundant with the gesture area.

FYI - Just checked youtube and opera mini does have a scroll bar.

BTW - The Android browser and the iphone both have scrollbars.

**VickMackey** · 09/07/2009, 08:21 PM

It really doesn't. Modern web pages aren't long enough to require them, not even blogs

**Xyg** · 09/07/2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by VickMackey

It really doesn't. Modern web pages aren't long enough to require them, not even blogs

This.

**dvigilante1** · 09/07/2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by VickMackey

It really doesn't. Modern web pages aren't long enough to require them, not even blogs

Thats an odd statement. Even on precentral I have to thumb through several times just to get to the bottom/message section. Google news is also a chore.

**THETRUTH** · 09/07/2009, 08:38 PM

Opera 9.5 has scroll bars appear while you scroll and then they disappear. The pre should have the same. Hopefully 1.2 adds them

**warblad13** · 09/07/2009, 08:56 PM

no scroll bar is needed
even on a long web page 4 quick flicks of my finger will usually bring me from top to bottom a scroll bar is unnecessary

**dvigilante1** · 09/07/2009, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Warblad13

no scroll bar is needed
even on a long web page 4 quick flicks of my finger will usually bring me from top to bottom a scroll bar is unnecessary

Everyone doesn't have small fingers. It is better to have the scrollbar option available and remove if necessary than not having it to begin with. Especially considering Palm's previous smartphone lineup (i.e.Treo/centro) had a scrollbar. Again it just seems odd that the pre doesn't have one while all the other web browsers do.

**THETRUTH** · 09/07/2009, 09:51 PM

I think its weird the text doesn't scale to size like the iphone and opera. What I mean by that is when you double tap the text gets bigger but doesn't scale to a column like opera. Either it zooms to little or too much causing sidewards scrolling

**warblad13** · 09/07/2009, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dvigilante1

Everyone doesn't have small fingers. It is better to have the scrollbar option available and remove if necessary than not having it to begin with. Especially considering Palm's previous smartphone lineup (i.e.Treo/centro) had a scrollbar. Again it just seems odd that the pre doesn't have one while all the other web browsers do.

your going to need even smaller fingers with a little scroll bar small screen and gesture on your right or left if your in landscape mode is all i'm saying

**west3man** · 09/07/2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dvigilante1

Hopefully the next update includes a scrollbar. In landscape you can use the gesture area but you can't type web addresses or access bookmarks. I am constantly accidentally clicking links. Now that I think about it, don't most web browsers include a scrollbar. Blazer, winmo, skyfire, and opera all have scrollbars.

Exactly.

There are some odd responses in this thread but I agree that it'd be nice to know how far I am up or down a page - or just to quickly jump to the beginning or end.

**exhero** · 09/07/2009, 10:11 PM

nope not necessary

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