4-27-09: Inside Sprint's Palm Pre rundown

**jbg7474** · 04/27/2009, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by ultima301

What I really like about this (that hasn't already been mentioned) is the part in the beginning where he says

"Despite the fact that all of us that know the actual release date of the device are bound by a NDA and our job titles"

which implies that Sprint knows for sure now when this thing's going to launch, and since the included trailer is likely a tie-in with the launch, the release date is almost certainly sometime in May!

Let's say that May 17th is the date that they were working towards when they gave phones to the Sprint techs to start learning and developing training. Okay, sounds good. But if something happens between then and now, and they need to push the date back, it would be a trivial matter to load it up with a different trailer for a movie releasing later.

Even if the people most in the know right now think it's prior to May 29th, it could still get pushed back.

Absent an official announcement on a release date from Sprint, nothing is certain.

**quipper8** · 04/27/2009, 10:05 AM

That post says no flash support in browser

boo

**reminiz** · 04/27/2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by quipper8

That post says no flash support in browser

boo

I thought we all knew that? It won't be supported until end of 09.

**west3man** · 04/27/2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U

That's why I too am concerned with the Sprint insider saying it doesn't copy and paste in the browser...and the only video we have of copy and paste shows it being done in notes.

They said, explicitly that it doesn't copy/paste in the browser?

**Derek Kessler** · 04/27/2009, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by west3man

They said, explicitly that it doesn't copy/paste in the browser?

Under the header for web browser:

**TomD** · 04/27/2009, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Dieter Bohn

Awesome stuff here, seems either detailed enough to be legit or detailed enough that this person loves screwing with our heads. Posted up.

One slight, but important error in your post. You have:
"claims that a data plan (either Simply Everything or Business Data) will be required,"

He has:
"the device will require either a Simply Everything/Simply Everything Data Plan or a Business Essentials Data Plan"

Please note SIMPLY EVERYTHING DATA is missing from your story.

Thanks Dieter for riding this Pre bucking bronco for us.

**MannyZ28** · 04/27/2009, 10:17 AM

Well...they said the Pre can do MMS, so..if they say no Picture Mail...doesn't that just mean that the received pictures just land up on the phone directly instead, and you no longer have to go through the whole Picture Mail ordeal to look at it (meaning it will show you a preview first, then you download it)?

If that's the case, that's fine by me, as long as we can text pics to each other!

**Se7enth** · 04/27/2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by MannyZ28

Well...they said the Pre can do MMS, so..if they say no Picture Mail...doesn't that just mean that the received pictures just land up on the phone directly instead, and you no longer have to go through the whole Picture Mail ordeal to look at it (meaning it will show you a preview first, then you download it)?

If that's the case, that's fine by me, as long as we can text pics to each other!

I find direct MMS much better than having to go through a website.

**JaMart** · 04/27/2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by freeridstylee

Can you select/highlight text on a Web page?

No.

This really bugs me

**Libb** · 04/27/2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U

That's why I too am concerned with the Sprint insider saying it doesn't copy and paste in the browser...and the only video we have of copy and paste shows it being done in notes.

As far as the webOS book is concerned, it's implied that C/C/P is available for all text fields, so anywhere you can enter text is able to be cut, copied, or pasted. No word in there on browser use, so I can't comment one way or the other.

**ImmaSlave4U** · 04/27/2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by TomD

One slight, but important error in your post. You have:
"claims that a data plan (either Simply Everything or Business Data) will be required,"

He has:
"the device will require either a Simply Everything/Simply Everything Data Plan or a Business Essentials Data Plan"

Please note SIMPLY EVERYTHING DATA is missing from your story.

Thanks Dieter for riding this Pre bucking bronco for us.

Yes, and I am fairly certain the Sprint insider meant "Simply Everything/Everything Data" rather than "Simply Everything Data" as "Simply" is only used in the $99 unlimited Everything plan.

I think we can rest assured that the three tiers of the Everything Data plans will be supported as it was specifically pointed out as such in the Sprint web video they did a while back.

**ImmaSlave4U** · 04/27/2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by MannyZ28

Well...they said the Pre can do MMS, so..if they say no Picture Mail...doesn't that just mean that the received pictures just land up on the phone directly instead, and you no longer have to go through the whole Picture Mail ordeal to look at it (meaning it will show you a preview first, then you download it)?

If that's the case, that's fine by me, as long as we can text pics to each other!

As long as they don't just sent us a link to go to a website to view the picture. That is what I was worried about when I read 'no Sprint Picture Mail'. I've never had a phone without picture mail (well, not for a long time), so I'm just unsure how it'll work. But if it works the way you have described, I certainly will have no complaints. Like you said, as long as we can send/receive images, we're all good!

**reminiz** · 04/27/2009, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Libb

As far as the webOS book is concerned, it's implied that C/C/P is available for all text fields, so anywhere you can enter text is able to be cut, copied, or pasted. No word in there on browser use, so I can't comment one way or the other.

I was just looking back at a post about that. So, it sounds like e-mail and text messages will be fine. Still unsure of web browser.

**west3man** · 04/27/2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Hair

Under the header for web browser:

Thanks.

The expletive-free version of my response is: Screw this phone.

It took scouring a message board daily for months to find out something THIS damned basic? Hm. My expletive meter says I should just stop right there.

I'm out.

I've forgotten the original source, but I hope it's proven to be false. And hopefully, the news will make it to me somehow. Time for a flurry of unsubscribing.

**Kyusaku** · 04/27/2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by freeridstylee

Can you select/highlight text on a Web page?

No.

This makes me a sad panda.

In regards to no PictureMail support, I hope this means true MMS then. The Instinct has true MMS so Sprint has the support to do it.

Nothing on Visual Voice Mail. =/

**Dieter Bohn** · 04/27/2009, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by TomD

One slight, but important error in your post. You have:
"claims that a data plan (either Simply Everything or Business Data) will be required,"

He has:
"the device will require either a Simply Everything/Simply Everything Data Plan or a Business Essentials Data Plan"

Please note SIMPLY EVERYTHING DATA is missing from your story.

Thanks Dieter for riding this Pre bucking bronco for us.

Updated and thanks -- but don't all SE plans include data anyway?

**freeridstylee** · 04/27/2009, 10:46 AM

Dear Mozilla and/or Opera,

Please make a moble browser for webos before the release date. Please include cut/paste.

Thank you for your time.

There, problem solved.

**ImmaSlave4U** · 04/27/2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kyusaku

In regards to no PictureMail support, I hope this means true MMS then. The Instinct has true MMS so Sprint has the support to do it.

Nothing on Visual Voice Mail. =/

Oh, ok....thank you. Thanks for clearing that up. I have the Instinct, and it I receive the pictures directly to my phone (no links)...but it's still called PictureMail, so I was confused. And that's what I'm hoping for the Pre.

Oh! And Visual Voicemail! I love VVM on my Instinct and you'd think we'd know by know if the Pre had it.

**Derek Kessler** · 04/27/2009, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dieter Bohn

Updated and thanks -- but don't all SE plans include data anyway?

Simply Everything includes unlimited data, talk, and messaging.

Everything Data includes unlimited data and messaging.

Everything Messaging is just unlimited messaging.

**reminiz** · 04/27/2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U

Oh, ok....thank you. Thanks for clearing that up. I have the Instinct, and it I receive the pictures directly to my phone (no links)...but it's still called PictureMail, so I was confused.

When you send an MMS from your phone to an e-mail address though, does it send the pic, or a link to the pic?

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