[Pearl_Diva]

True.

I just don't think it speaks well when a Palm owner says their next phone may be a BB. I know another Treo owner considering NOT getting another. Palm users are so few and far between around here.

[theog]

True.

I just don't think it speaks well when a Palm owner says their next phone may be a BB. I know another Treo owner considering NOT getting another. Palm users are so few and far between around here.

Just because they GET a BB does not mean they will keep it...

I've had a BB since around Jan 15... BB service is not so hot... but then it might be the enterprise service or a setting I don't have right... but the phone itself leaves a lot to be desired. If you ONLY do email it is an okay phone... still not better than Microsoft exchange on a microsoft phone (OS), IMO.....

[mobileman]

Palm's latest announcement about being open to developers (outside of their app store) will be a major selling point too.

Don't agree at all. Of the 15 million iPhone owners, I wonder what percent of people really want this feature.

[mobileman]

Just because they GET a BB does not mean they will keep it...

I've had a BB since around Jan 15... BB service is not so hot... but then it might be the enterprise service or a setting I don't have right... but the phone itself leaves a lot to be desired. If you ONLY do email it is an okay phone... still not better than Microsoft exchange on a microsoft phone (OS), IMO.....

The BB is the best device by far at email and IM. If that is all you want to do, then you should definitely look at a Blackberry. However, if you want to browse the web, listen to music, watch videos, play games, have access to lots of 3rd party apps, use a device with a screen bigger than a quarter (the Storm doesn't count because its awful); then look elsewhere.

[Gerorne]

Don't agree at all. Of the 15 million iPhone owners, I wonder what percent of people really want this feature.

For individuals, it won't be a primary selling point, but my guess would be that it will attract a lot of developers, which will lead to comparable and better apps on the Pre than the iphone, which is a more long term selling point, or at least not a point in favor of the iphone.

For companies, it could be a selling point simply because they can develop apps for their employees only, and not have to go through an app store. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But I remember reading something like that in the Palm deveoper blog comments.)

[dd4618]

The BB is the best device by far at email and IM. If that is all you want to do, then you should definitely look at a Blackberry. However, if you want to browse the web, listen to music, watch videos, play games, have access to lots of 3rd party apps, use a device with a screen bigger than a quarter (the Storm doesn't count because its awful); then look elsewhere.

and the Pre does all of the above except... actually selling i guess?

[Pearl_Diva]

Just because they GET a BB does not mean they will keep it...

I've had a BB since around Jan 15... BB service is not so hot... but then it might be the enterprise service or a setting I don't have right... but the phone itself leaves a lot to be desired. If you ONLY do email it is an okay phone... still not better than Microsoft exchange on a microsoft phone (OS), IMO.....

I warned him not to get the Storm due to all the negative reports, but I can't stop him.

[johncc]

Excuse me for asking this, but if Apple adds true multi-tasking, what is the benefit to owning a PRE?

One biggy. It's not made by Apple.

[mobileman]

and the Pre does all of the above except... actually selling i guess?

But does it do it as good? Can I enforce corporate IT policies on a Pre?

[mobileman]

For individuals, it won't be a primary selling point, but my guess would be that it will attract a lot of developers, which will lead to comparable and better apps on the Pre than the iphone, which is a more long term selling point, or at least not a point in favor of the iphone.

For companies, it could be a selling point simply because they can develop apps for their employees only, and not have to go through an app store. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But I remember reading something like that in the Palm deveoper blog comments.)

I dont think you will see better apps written in html.

[schnoid]

Don't agree at all. Of the 15 million iPhone owners, I wonder what percent of people really want this feature.

I'm thinking the percentage of people that would like to jailbreak their iphone or have already done so is pretty significant. Many people have not because they're afraid of "bricking" their iphone. I know I'm probably not the best source for gauging how many people want open apps considering many of my friends/coworkers are tech geeks, but EVERY single person i know with an iphone (probably about 20+) have either already jailbroken their phone or would do it if they weren't afraid. I think if nothing else, you could say a significant portion of people would be interested in an open platform. My guess would be at least a million of those 15 million.

[NickDG]

Don't agree at all. Of the 15 million iPhone owners, I wonder what percent of people really want this feature.

There are apps that Apple won't allow in their app store because they compete with their own buit-in apps. There are also apps that Apple holds back because AT&T thinks they will saturate their network.

As far as multitasking and the iPhone goes, Apple will have to completely rewrite the GUI on the iPhone to achieve this. If they just throw it on top of the current GUI people would run too many apps at once not knowing it, killing their battery while confusing the hell out of them. A application manager will be needed ala cards like webOS to manage everything correctly. This goes against the Apple mentality of simple is better. Which might loose their target audience.

[marcol]

Excuse me for asking this, but if Apple adds true multi-tasking, what is the benefit to owning a PRE?

Palm won't be such a controlling PITA about the apps allowed on your device. How good is TomTom on my iPhone? Exactly.

[marcol]

I dont think you will see better apps written in html.

That is a worry.

[mobileman]

My guess would be at least a million of those 15 million.

I would be very surprised if it is even 5 percent of that number.

[mobileman]

Palm won't be such a controlling PITA about the apps allowed on your device. How good is TomTom on my iPhone? Exactly.

So, people complain about limitations put on iPhone developers, but most likely the more advanced Pre apps will be written with low level OS access that Palm will probably only give a select few access. To me, this is a little hypocritical.

[compneo]

I would be very surprised if it is even 5 percent of that number.

I am sure there are more than 50,000 of 15,000,000 iPhone users that would like to not be locked down to a restricted apps list.

[MannyZ28]

How are all the fart apps allowed, but they ditched iBoobs?

[mobileman]

I am sure there are more than 50,000 of 15,000,000 iPhone users that would like to not be locked down to a restricted apps list.

Perhaps they have the desire, but not the knowledge how to go about doing this. Personally, I have never considered jailbreaking. Give me copy and paste, and multi-tasking and I am good.

[mobileman]

How are all the fart apps allowed, but they ditched iBoobs?

I hope Palm's marketing wont be "Buy a Pre, we have iBoob apps".