[ivhs72]

FYI, the new Palm Treo Pre is now the major attraction on the Palm website. It's at www.palm.com and it looks nice.

[SandersJC1964]

It's on the Sprint site as well. Signed up for a notification email when it comes out.

[nsxprime]

Amazing. Palm has really redeemed themselves after the Folio and 800w failures.

[ivhs72]

Is it my imagination, or is there no expandable memory slot available on this thing? With only 8gb of memory, that could be an issue. Any further information about this?

[iatricjb]

Open Pre questions?

1. Isn't it odd that they didn't mention the price?
2. No memory card slot?
3. What about existing Palm apps?
4. Is 1st Half 2009 really June 30, 2009?
5. With Sprint, they cut off the rest of the world? We all suspect that Sprint will be an exclusive for a while. GSM version in 2010 or later?

Nice device but if you want international coverage, you're dead with Sprint.

[goalie30]

Based on the debut, I do have a "prepism."

When PDANet and Sling have apps that run on the Pre, I'd be ready to take the plunge.

[Deanj#WN]

I saw there was no mention of what I can do to run my existing Palm apps on the Pre.

Are all the applications going to be on the web? Maybe I'm not getting this, but it looks like they put a new type of web browser on this phone that can switch between different Web 2.0 pages. Anyone see something different?

Update: from a twitter from palm_inc, a posting at CNet says that existing applications will not run on this new phone. I can't post the URL here (my post count is too low).

If the apps are all HTML/CSS/Javascript based, how are developers supposed to make money for their apps? Are they own their own for montenizing their websites?

[Caduceus]

I saw there was no mention of what I can do to run my existing Palm apps on the Pre.

Update: from a twitter from palm_inc, a posting at CNet says that existing applications will not run on this new phone. I can't post the URL here (my post count is too low).

http://www.cnbc.com/id/28564790/for/cnbc/

[smcracraft]

My requirements are not yet met by any existing
PDAphone.... and they are:

1) 64gb+ of main memory
2) external SD card, capable of handling the highest
SD card memory
3) full-size display (as big as iPhone)
4) full-vendor-supported tethering
5) top-drawer base network
6) the new iPhone-style-interface
7) bluetooth
8) gps
10) applications that are OPEN
11) high-speed multiple internal cpus

I get some of these with my present Treo 700p on
the Verizon network but the requirements above
won't be fulfilled for some time.

If the iPhone were on the Verizon network, that
would be about as close as it would get.

My friend has one and in the MIDDLE OF IRVINE,
a heavily populated area, he gets regular disconnects
on the major university campus with AT&T!!!!

Stuart

[cavingjan#IM]

64 gb+ of main memery will leave you looking for a phone for another 2 years. That is horribly cost prohibitive unless you use a mini hard drive and suffer the related issues.

[Pearl_Diva]

I'd even settle for a 32GB storage phone. 8GB isn't as innovative anymore. Several manufacturers released 8GB phones last year or the year before.

[Sjweise]

NO backwards compatibility without 3rd party emulation. What a crock of rotten pickles. I have been a Palm loyalist through so many hardware failures and software glitches and now they release the "next generation" device and take away a HUGE amount of my daily productivity, on a network that I have no interest in? This is what I have been waiting for?

[RC46]

Amazing. Palm has really redeemed themselves after the Folio and 800w failures.

I think the 800w was only a disaster for you.

I kind of like mine. Windows Mobile, on the other hand, I'm not so crazy about.

I can't wait for WebOS!!

[jthelman]

I saw there was no mention of what I can do to run my existing Palm apps on the Pre.

I've seen this complaint 20-30x regarding the Pre. I've had a 700p/700wx for a couple of years now, and I use it constantly (mail, voice, messaging, web browsing).

I'm wondering what Palm/Garnet application is so phenomenal that it would stop you from buying a newer, more functional phone.

Also consider that if the application was so mind-boggling good, the authors will just re-write it for the new WebOS.

Sorry if this comes off as harsh, but at some point it's time to move onto a new OS.

[Se7enth]

I've seen this complaint 20-30x regarding the Pre. I've had a 700p/700wx for a couple of years now, and I use it constantly (mail, voice, messaging, web browsing).

I'm wondering what Palm/Garnet application is so phenomenal that it would stop you from buying a newer, more functional phone.

Also consider that if the application was so mind-boggling good, the authors will just re-write it for the new WebOS.

Sorry if this comes off as harsh, but at some point it's time to move onto a new OS.

Thank you!!
I completely agree.

[MisterB#WN]

My requirements are not yet met by any existing
PDAphone.... and they are:

1) 64gb+ of main memory
2) external SD card, capable of handling the highest
SD card memory
3) full-size display (as big as iPhone)
4) full-vendor-supported tethering
5) top-drawer base network
6) the new iPhone-style-interface
7) bluetooth
8) gps
10) applications that are OPEN
11) high-speed multiple internal cpus

I get some of these with my present Treo 700p on
the Verizon network but the requirements above
won't be fulfilled for some time.

If the iPhone were on the Verizon network, that
would be about as close as it would get.

My friend has one and in the MIDDLE OF IRVINE,
a heavily populated area, he gets regular disconnects
on the major university campus with AT&T!!!!

Stuart

...And, since it is made by a company named "Palm", it should include a hand job option- right? Dang, that's quite the list...

Also, is the iPhone on the Verizon network really as close as it gets for you? Now you're missing a physical keyboard, and don't you also lose the ability to simply copy and paste?

I think the Pre will be as close to your list as you'll find, except for maybe a BlackBerry Bold. Hard to say.

[SedahDrol]

My requirements are not yet met by any existing
PDAphone.... and they are:

1) 64gb+ of main memory
2) external SD card, capable of handling the highest
SD card memory
3) full-size display (as big as iPhone)
4) full-vendor-supported tethering
5) top-drawer base network
6) the new iPhone-style-interface
7) bluetooth
8) gps
10) applications that are OPEN
11) high-speed multiple internal cpus

I get some of these with my present Treo 700p on
the Verizon network but the requirements above
won't be fulfilled for some time.

If the iPhone were on the Verizon network, that
would be about as close as it would get.

My friend has one and in the MIDDLE OF IRVINE,
a heavily populated area, he gets regular disconnects
on the major university campus with AT&T!!!!

Stuart

Sounds to me like you are describing a computer
1)No smartphone currently has this amount of standard memory
2)yes some sort of external memory which neither the pre nor iphone have
3)bigger screen the better though generally could make single handed use more difficult.
4)pre offers tethering
5)sprint allegedly has the best 3G network. another plus for the pre
6)pre has
7)pre has
8)pre has
9)pre somewhat iphone definately not, g1 definately
10)no smartphone has multiple cpus

seems to me like the pre comes much closer to what you need than an Iphone.

[nhhendu]

Is it my imagination, or is there no expandable memory slot available on this thing? With only 8gb of memory, that could be an issue. Any further information about this?

If it's anything like my HTC Diamond, that 8gb storage is separate from the program/OS memory and is treated like a flash card on any computer. The Diamond also has 8gb storage and it's fine, unless you're trying to put your whole music collection on it.

[Dr.Grace]

I've seen this complaint 20-30x regarding the Pre. I've had a 700p/700wx for a couple of years now, and I use it constantly (mail, voice, messaging, web browsing).

I'm wondering what Palm/Garnet application is so phenomenal that it would stop you from buying a newer, more functional phone.

Also consider that if the application was so mind-boggling good, the authors will just re-write it for the new WebOS.

Sorry if this comes off as harsh, but at some point it's time to move onto a new OS.

I understand why you say that, because we all know PalmOS is antiquated and the existing apps are limited by it. But I can think of two apps that I use all the time that would need to be equaled on the Pre for me to adopt it: ChatterEmail and Pleco (fantastic Chinese-English dictionary app.) It's not clear how well the Pre's email app works. Maybe it'll be OK, but they've said little about supporting IMAP idle, etc. The authors of Pleco are not sure if they can port to the Pre. How can we answer the question of whether great apps that exist for the PalmOS can be ported if they are giving out precious little info to developers not already in the select group they've invited?

[MannyZ28]

If it's anything like my HTC Diamond, that 8gb storage is separate from the program/OS memory and is treated like a flash card on any computer. The Diamond also has 8gb storage and it's fine, unless you're trying to put your whole music collection on it.

Uhm... last I checked the HTC Diamond has only 4 GB of onboard memory.