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when you're over your 30 day window you get a refurb. That's the way it is and normally always has been. Outside of the Pre, I've had good luck with Palm refurbs for many years and never got one that seemed like it was new. I don't believe they have a negative reputation regarding refurbs.
I would look for a repair center and talk to a tech there, not just deal with any old store.
going the touchstone route isn't all peaches and cream. I've crazy glued the metal piece on the door twice now. They should've inside that top edge so your fingernail doesn't dig under the metal piece every time you open the door. But in general, it's a much nicer cover in general, and if you comb ebay you can find a deal every now and then. Got one for $18 and it came with a cable and centro battery. Actually use my old centro as an external charger.
 Originally Posted by blankiek
I honestly don't want a refurb because Palm refurbs have been known to have problems. I don't wanna redo all of the homebrew stuff and honestly, why would i be forced to get a refurb?
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