[DwightKeenan]

This may be a dumb questions, but I am afraid if I don't ask, I will have an outrageous bill next month.

I just purchased a Treo 650 and when I surf the web, it logs in and the little arrow things light green by my signal strength meter. When I close the Web, the arrows go gray, but they stay there. At this point, am I still connected to the internet and using my minutes? If so, the only way I know how to make the arrows go away is if I shut the phone off and turn it back on.

Can someone tell me if I am missing something?

Thanks

[mszatny]

You can manually disconnect by going to PREFERENCES - NETWORK and click the "Dissconect" button.
MS

[DwightKeenan]

You can manually disconnect by going to PREFERENCES - NETWORK and click the "Dissconect" button.
MS

Is there a program that I can install on my plam so I don't have to go to preferences? Does this also mean that when the arrows are there that I am still connected and going to get charged for that time?

[zvandiver]

If the arrows are grey it means that the connection is not actively transferring data. You can receive calls only when the arrows are grey. If you have a Sprint Treo with the unlimited Vision plan, you are not using minutes when the internet connection is active. The GSM carriers have similar internet plans, but they cost more.
If you activated with Sprint, they should have automatically put you on the Vision plan. GSM carriers are not as thoughtful. Many Cingular subscribers get a real shock with their first bill and find out they were using voice minutes to surf the web.
Zane

[DwightKeenan]

If the arrows are grey it means that the connection is not actively transferring data. You can receive calls only when the arrows are grey. If you have a Sprint Treo with the unlimited Vision plan, you are not using minutes when the internet connection is active. The GSM carriers have similar internet plans, but they cost more.
If you activated with Sprint, they should have automatically put you on the Vision plan. GSM carriers are not as thoughtful. Many Cingular subscribers get a real shock with their first bill and find out they were using voice minutes to surf the web.
Zane

So basically, I shouldn't worry about anything and should always leave it connected?

[mtnwalton]

If you have snappermail, just do as I do and hit the button to check mail ; it closes the connection after checking and you know for sure you're offline. btw, this is on a 600 .

[MrTimmy]

when you are done surfing use the stylus to click on blazer and tap disconnect - if program does not allow you a preference of auto disconnecting you have to go to prefs and do it I think

[DwightKeenan]

when you are done surfing use the stylus to click on blazer and tap disconnect - if program does not allow you a preference of auto disconnecting you have to go to prefs and do it I think

I am using Blazer 4.0 and it doesn't have an option to disconnect. I am using Verichat and when I go in there and say signoff and exit, I still have the gray arrows. My last thing I tired was to use Dir Assist and check that to disconnect when done and it finally worked. It seems like there should be an easier way or a setup option to make it disconnect better.

[millerhifi]

Have a look at TreoHelper. You can assign on/off times for the phone, conditions for when to drop the network connection and/or turn off the phone.
http://rallypilot.sourceforge.net/

[DwightKeenan]

Have a look at TreoHelper. You can assign on/off times for the phone, conditions for when to drop the network connection and/or turn off the phone.
http://rallypilot.sourceforge.net/

Thanks, that looks like exactly what I am looking for.

[JerryP2375]

I may be new to the Treo, but this much I do know. Not sure about Sprint, but on Cingular when the arrows are green you can still receive calls because u are using the GPRS/Edge signal which can handle higher rates on info thus enabling voice and data transfer. It's when the arrows are black when u cannot receive calls, because you are using the CSD (dial-up) connection which just cannot handle both, thus uses your air-time minutes.

Sorry Miller, if I seem to be rambling on, but while I am not so tech savy on the user end of wireless, (as you have helped me with my new toy) I am in fact a telecom technician and don't wanna sound like a complete dunce. So simply put, I can install and wire up a DSL server, I just can't program it.

[millerhifi]

I may be new to the Treo, but this much I do know. Not sure about Sprint, but on Cingular when the arrows are green you can still receive calls because u are using the GPRS/Edge signal which can handle higher rates on info thus enabling voice and data transfer. It's when the arrows are black when u cannot receive calls, because you are using the CSD (dial-up) connection which just cannot handle both, thus uses your air-time minutes.

Sorry Miller, if I seem to be rambling on, but while I am not so tech savy on the user end of wireless, (as you have helped me with my new toy) I am in fact a telecom technician and don't wanna sound like a complete dunce. So simply put, I can install and wire up a DSL server, I just can't program it.

No worries, however you're close but not completely accurate here!
Yes, you can still receive calls while the arrows are green but if you are actively transfering data when that call comes in, it will not come thru and allow you to answer but will get sent to voicemail.

[dansamy]

I've been turning off the phone! At least now, you guys have given me some other options.

[Bangkok Treo600]

Guys'

My plan allows me unlimted data on a fixed 200 hours per month and I need to stay within that which shouldn't be too hard if TreoHelper is there watching my back so to speak. TreoHelper gives you the option to "Drop Net (Green Arows) in" and then offers you a series of intervals from 5 secs to 4 hours which I have set to 30 minutes. What I would like to know is will TreoHelper turn off the Net connection 30 minutes after it is initiated REGARDLESS of whether it is actively in use or will it turn it off 30 minutes after the last transmission of data rather like the way a screensaver kicks in on your PC?

I would like to use it as a safety net in case I forget to log off Blazer or if the "Auto Disconnect" on Versamail doesn't work (and it doesn't seem to on the 650) or especially if I have forgotten that I left Verichat logged in but I don't want it to drop the connection in the middle of an email send/receive just because the designated 30 minutes is up.

Any and all advice welcome including recommendations for apps which will track and control GPRS useage in terms of time rather than DATA which TrafficStat does.

Regards

John Murray

[SloMo]

Lately I have noticed that when Im connected to EN and I hit "disconnect" from the Blazer menu.....the arrows turn gray rather than disappear like they used to. I have a Verizonized T650 with Shadows 1.08 #5 ROM installed. Im on the AC 500 Family plan with no data plan. When the arrows are gray I can stil make and receive calls so I am assuming that the data connection is not active. The arrows still remain even if I go the network preferences and hit "disconnect". The only way to get rid of the arrows is to turn the phone off then back on. Just wondering if the gray arrows mean Im still connected and if this is a problem. I wouldn't think I am since I can still make and receive calls but I just want to make sure....

Mo

[Casey Cheung]

Dwight,

I too am using Blazer v4.0 on a Sprint Treo 650, and NO where can I find a way to disconnect from the internet. To this day, I'm still wondering what is the proper way to disconnect from the internet and be able to receive phone calls.

What I've been doing lately is to press the Phone (on) button to leave the internet function, and then to press the Off (off) button. After a few seconds or so, I can then receive phone calls. I'm sure there must be a better way to turn off the internet to receive calls.

Any solutions? Thanks, Casey.

[scotttreo]

If you have to go to Prefs -. Network and disconnect.
You can also make an alias with alias maker to the prefs.

[Bangkok Treo600]

I can't believe none of the "Helper" type utilities don't have a data connection auto off function. I've tried 4 or 5 different apps which claimed to give you totoal control over your wireless conecction but none of them give you an auto off function.

Calling all developers here's what we need:-

A simple application which allows you to set an auto off timer for your data connection (GPRS, EDGE etc) which monitors the connection and if there has been no upstream or downstream traffic for 'X' minutes the connection is automatically disconnected.

I know some applications such as VeriChat, Chattermail etc can be set to an "always on" or virtually always on state but if you are running these apps you probably won't want an auto off facility.

Anyone out there clever enough to build something like this?

[yee]

you can use Battery Doctor, it turns off the network connection when power is off, the application also has an option to disconnect Data radio 1 min, 5min or 10min after power off.

[Bangkok Treo600]

Hi Yee,

Thanks for the advice. I just downloaded and tried Battery Doctor but either I'm getting something wrong or it doesn't do what I'm asking it to do. I set the "Disconnect Data Radio" to "1 Min After Power Off", turned the phone off completely and turned it back on. I have Chatter mail installed and set to POP mail every 30 minutes. On turning on the phone the Chattermail app automatically turns on the data connection. So with the phone on and the data connection on I then powered off the screen and waited for a few minutes expecting that when I turned the screen back on again I would see that the data connection had been dropped 1 minute after I powered off the screen but its still on. Is it possible that Chattermail is overriding Battery Doctor?

As I said I have Chattermail set to POP mail every 30 mins but I'd like Battery doctor to kill the connection 1 minute after mail has been pop'd or 1 minute after I power off the screen. Am I missing something here?