I Will Wait For GSM Model. Who's With Me?

**MisterEd** · 01/30/2005, 09:31 PM

And what did she have to say?

Are you CURRENTLY on Blue or Orange (or neither)?

Originally Posted by specimen38

That was happening to me on Thursday, but Friday I received a call from Lorraine.

**Tanner** · 01/30/2005, 11:41 PM

I do not have a treo 600.

can I order one tomorrow through Orange?

tia...for whoever's still in this thread... some loners aren't we?

**specimen38** · 01/31/2005, 12:29 AM

It's okay. The PRECIOUS calls.

We know you will be back.

Originally Posted by Mtreosexual

Guys,
I could not resist, walked into sprint store bought one today.
I have 14 days to try , most likely returning it back in few days as voice is horrible with echoes and low volume.
It is a great piece of hardware.
I compared the voice quality with GSM T 600 .There is a huge difference.I have not experimented with shadowmite's rom as i know it is going back in few days.
Please sell your 600s before getting 650 as after looking at 650 screen you do not want to see 600.
LCD TV vs 1st generation color TV , would be somewhat close.
Now after playing with this one , i can wait for unlocked one from P1.
Data is way faster with sprint than T-mo.I also got $55, 700 minutes including roaming + $15 sprint PCS unlimited internet with 22% buisness accountdiscount on my monthly bill.
I hope the wifi sled comes soon, that will make life easy with T-Mo .Specimen 38 and others, sorry for losing my patience. I feel way much better now
I am still waiting for GSM.

**rkevwill** · 01/31/2005, 12:31 AM

Mtreo, one thing to remember is, your GSM voice quality is not gonna be any better than the sprint CDMA version. Thats not gonna get ANY better until Palm releases their fix, or another version of the phone comes out. Yup, shadow's patch does improve it, but its not perfect. When, and if it ever gets better and FIXED, I will upgrade from the 600. Not until.

**evildead** · 01/31/2005, 12:49 AM

I'm getting confused with all these threads and which I heard this in but, supposedly the voice quality is FIXED in the GSM treo 650. People are reporting it sounds good, and a palm person told someone here at that medical seminar i think, that they fixed it.

**Mtreosexual** · 01/31/2005, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by rkevwill

Mtreo, one thing to remember is, your GSM voice quality is not gonna be any better than the sprint CDMA version. Thats not gonna get ANY better until Palm releases their fix, or another version of the phone comes out. Yup, shadow's patch does improve it, but its not perfect. When, and if it ever gets better and FIXED, I will upgrade from the 600. Not until.

I respect your decision. I am assuming the voicehas been fixed on GSM.The other major issue has been call drops.I have 2 bars onsignal strength. I made 2 calls from my house today, both were dropped halfway with "network faided" error message. Therefore it is going back.
I will also play with GSM 650. If the voice quality is no different, heck ,will wait for T700.
The good thing about using the trial period is that,i am not impatient anymore.

**cjdaniel** · 01/31/2005, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by evildead

I'm getting confused with all these threads and which I heard this in but, supposedly the voice quality is FIXED in the GSM treo 650. People are reporting it sounds good, and a palm person told someone here at that medical seminar i think, that they fixed it.

The sound quality is fixed, from everyone reporting on GSM. It will be a patch for Sprint soon.

**helpermonkey** · 01/31/2005, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by brightcell

I agree with you, it's not comparable but what about for places where EDGE is not available yet. Why should I be paying $40 to get GPRS speed on the 650 ?!!?
For ex., in NYC, Blue has EDGE, Orange doesn't (supposed to be soon available but nobody knows when !) so having to pay $40 for data vs. $20 for MediaWorks is not acceptable for me.
My point is that Cingular is trying to sell me dial up at cable prices

Sorry I can't speek to Cingular as well as ATTWS, but ATTWs had EDGE deployed everywhere. Cingular didn't even have a network in NYC, so they were getting coverage from T-Mobile and as everyone knows T-Mobile is only GPRS. You could always try to get switched over to the blue network in NYC...

Does anyone know of any orange cingular networks not EDGE other than the T-Mobile coverage areas?

**Tanner** · 01/31/2005, 08:24 AM

dang it! still not available! GRRRR

**helpermonkey** · 01/31/2005, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by rkevwill

Mtreo, one thing to remember is, your GSM voice quality is not gonna be any better than the sprint CDMA version. Thats not gonna get ANY better until Palm releases their fix, or another version of the phone comes out. Yup, shadow's patch does improve it, but its not perfect. When, and if it ever gets better and FIXED, I will upgrade from the 600. Not until.

Do you KNOW this? Or is it speculation? I have had a 650 GSM for some time now and the voice quality was always good. I have had no real complaints.

**helpermonkey** · 01/31/2005, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by brightcell

From a post on HoFo:
"The problem with Network Selection has nothing to do with it. Right now, network selection is set to automatic, so if you lose Cingular/T-Mobile's signal, your phone will automatically switch to AT&T provided that AT&T Towers are open for roaming! If roaming on AT&T is NOT enabled on AT&T's network, then you just lose the signal.

So basically, to clarify my previous post, the day AT&T opens their towers in all of NYC, whenever your phone loses T-Mo/Cing signal, it can lock into AT&T's network and hence use EDGE.

This won't be an issue for a long time because AT&T network will become native "home" for Cingular users soon after the merger close date. This means you won't need manual network selection because your phone will prefer the AT&T/Cingular network instead of the T-Mobile/Cingular network. You'll probably need a new SIM though."

Right now, I don't think that AT&T network is the native "home" for Cingular users.... it's maybe different with the 64k sim.

Yeah ... that's pretty messed up ... here in NYC

The only problem with the idea that all the Orange Cingular users are going to go over to the Blue=, old ATTWS, network is that ATTWS provisioned their network to have capacity for their customers. I doubt that they will be able to handle 100% loading of new customers on to that network right away, unless they had built WAY beyond capacity needs. They you also have to get all the old Orange - T-mobile network users switched over to the Blue network as well.

Make sense?

Oh yah, with 64K SIM customer care should be able to change your home network over to Blue for you anyway though. Many have reported success doing so.

**specimen38** · 01/31/2005, 08:50 AM

It is 5:50 a.m. PST. I plan to call Cingular Blue and then Lorraine in 10 minutes. I will take the best deal in the next 20 to 30minutes.

Originally Posted by MisterEd

And what did she have to say?

Are you CURRENTLY on Blue or Orange (or neither)?

**Daddyof3** · 01/31/2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Tanner

dang it! still not available! GRRRR

I feel it too...

**Daddyof3** · 01/31/2005, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by specimen38

It is 5:50 a.m. PST. I plan to call Cingular Blue and then Lorraine in 10 minutes. I will take the best deal in the next 20 to 30minutes.

S38, Is Lorraine with Cingular orange?

**vaillaw** · 01/31/2005, 10:45 AM

Does the GSM version still have the memory limitations that the Sprint 650 has? I think this was due to the file system not writting in less than 512 bit blocks.

**darjay** · 01/31/2005, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by specimen38

It is 5:50 a.m. PST. I plan to call Cingular Blue and then Lorraine in 10 minutes. I will take the best deal in the next 20 to 30minutes.

ITs is now 8am PST. Did you order one? If so, from who?

**Barney** · 01/31/2005, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Barney

I Just recieved a Call from My Cingular data rep , She said that Cingular announced release late this afternoon and she was taking orders for next day delivery. The price she quoted Me was $399 ,,, I Placed the order but due to the fact that it was after 5:00 pm here i wont recieve it till Monday Morning. She plans on Hand delivering it yo My Office. Not sure what I will do about My VC order that will Be here in another Month.....

OOps's Situation Normal, I recieved a Call from My Data rep Says she misread the email she got from corporate they cant start delivering till Feb 4th.. Why am i expecting her to also be wrong about the Price

**Barney** · 01/31/2005, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Barney

OOps's Situation Normal, I recieved a Call from My Data rep Says she misread the email she got from corporate they cant start delivering till Feb 4th.. Why am i expecting her to also be wrong about the Price

Just recieved this Email from My Data Reps Boss.

There are other issues that have nothing to do with the handset itself. You have to bring together Seven and BlackBerry as we'll as Microsoft. Plus the issue of two Networks like Cingular and ATT. So it may not of been us holding it back but rather a host of things. Does this make sence? Sorry for the delay.

Almost looks like they are attempting to have all solutions available for the release of the t650 GSM ?

**Barney** · 01/31/2005, 12:28 PM

Just Found a Vance Hines Exhaust system On Ebay for My Harley for $349.00 Maybe My Money Could be better spent On that!! and I wont have to wait 4 Cingular to release it....

**ToolkiT** · 01/31/2005, 12:31 PM

Phah, who needs an exaust on a harley? they are much louder without one

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