[kevets]

It looks like newer Qualcomm chips are more open, but the older ones in our Veers, Pre3's and Touchpads are not :'(

do we know how the nvidia tegra 3 open source support compares to qualcomm? That's what the nexus 7 runs which would be pretty great...

[OldSkoolVWLover]

Would love to know if the palm touchstone (puck) will work with this? Or is the Orb using different technology?

Different technology.

You sure about that?

Qi.

Source (written by Dieter ) : Google's Wireless Charging Orb for Nexus 4 takes inspiration from Palm's Touchstone | The Verge

Nokia Lumia inductive charging confirmed to work with both phone and TouchPad touchstones.
http://forums.webosnation.com/other-...ml#post3362390

Lumia also uses Qi
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/n...-phones-we-go/

[kevets]

Just spotted this - The Nexus 4 has been found to contain 4G LTE hardware. Not activated in this configuration, but it does confirm there's a Qualcomm chip in the phone. We gotta get like 10 of these for the webos-internals team, you know, just to look into...

iFixit tears apart the Nexus 4, finds surprise LTE chip | Ars Technica

[dignitary]

Just spotted this - The Nexus 4 has been found to contain 4G LTE hardware. Not activated in this configuration, but it does confirm there's a Qualcomm chip in the phone. We gotta get like 10 of these for the webos-internals team, you know, just to look into...

iFixit tears apart the Nexus 4, finds surprise LTE chip | Ars Technica

The LTE chip isn't part of the SoC, so that doesn't "prove" it's got a Qualcomm chip on its own, even though, yes, it's got a Qualcomm SoC. Check the iFixit teardown.

Nexus 4 Teardown - iFixit

The XDA people in the Nexus 4 forum are 50/50 on whether this will be possible to activate in any way, shape, or form due to licensing and/or technical issues. I have the LG Optimus G on Sprint (basically the same phone, give or take a part or two) and live in an LTE area, so I can attest that if they got it working, it'd rock. The devil will be in the details.

Read the whole thread for the story and current feasibility analysis: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1996994&page=1

Also, even if the Nexus 4 could support LTE, webOS would still need to know what the hell to do with it. Currently, it doesn't.

[cgk]

Picked up a nexus 4 for my partner who was swapping from a blackberry - for the money it's a beast of a phone, I was looking at another windows phone but is the windows phone really £230 better than the nexus? doubtful.

[chalx]

Picked up a nexus 4 for my partner who was swapping from a blackberry - for the money it's a beast of a phone, I was looking at another windows phone but is the windows phone really £230 better than the nexus? doubtful.

No, it is not! With nexus you will get at least two years of love from Google in form of support and OS upgrade, and tons of hacks from community. New Win8 devices look nice, but Nexus, my friend, is away to go.

[cgk]

No, it is not! With nexus you will get at least two years of love from Google in form of support and OS upgrade, and tons of hacks from community. New Win8 devices look nice, but Nexus, my friend, is away to go.

It's funny, I've always held to the idea that Android is too complex for 'normal' people but my other half has taken to it with no problems, she just got on with it - the more I play with it, the more I struggle to find a reason to pay double the money for the same functionality - even if i don't buy this nexus and string my lumia 800 a bit longer, I suspect I'll get whatever the next nexus phone is.

[danimal62]

jelly bean is really pleasant to use. I notice the hspa and 3g lights up in places where the pre3 doesn't on T-Mobile.

[Buddy1969]

jelly bean is really pleasant to use. ...

Yeah, it is good enough. Nowhere near WebOS usability-wise, but ok.
I hate Adobe cancelling Flash support for Jellybean. Makes me feel like a bl**dy i-crap user. Oh, and I already miss my hardware keyboard after typing with the software keyboard on the GS3.
But apart from that, yep, I like Jellybean. Widgets are cool

[dignitary]

I hate Adobe cancelling Flash support for Jellybean. Makes me feel like a bl**dy i-crap user.

Get the facts straight.

Adobe didn't "cancel" Flash for Jellybean. Adobe intentionally stopped developing Flash for mobile devices a year ago. The only reason Flash was ever even updated on Android since then was because Google kept compiling the updates themselves, and just like Adobe did, they're finally putting Flash out of its misery.

[immovablesoup]

I find that there is a striking resemblance between the Nexus 4 and the leaked WindsorNot device.

[Buddy1969]

Get the facts straight.

...

So what does that change for me being a Jellybean user? Nothing. Where does it leave me as a Jellybean user? No where, except making me feel like an iOS user.
So maybe you are correcting me to show off or something, I wouldn't know. It is neither helpful nor any "new" information.

Helpful would have been the info that there are still ways to get Flash on Jellybean devices, just no reliable ones and flash might probably be unstable.
Here. Enough "facts" for you?

[cymbalhead]

Just got my nexus 4. After my pres 1, 2 and 3 it's quite a shock.

Pluses: Amazing screen, super-fast, good build quality, lots of apps, doesn't get bogged-down with memory leaks and freezes

Minuses: No properly working bluetooth MAP profile so can't SMS from my touchpad (I find this astonishing), no wireless charging orb yet, miss the gestures and the recent-apps view is a pale shadow of stacked cards.

All in all? Two steps forward, one step back. Between the two platforms everything is covered, but each on its own is still missing things.

[kevets]

Just got my nexus 4. After my pres 1, 2 and 3 it's quite a shock.

Pluses: Amazing screen, super-fast, good build quality, lots of apps, doesn't get bogged-down with memory leaks and freezes

Minuses: No properly working bluetooth MAP profile so can't SMS from my touchpad (I find this astonishing), no wireless charging orb yet, miss the gestures and the recent-apps view is a pale shadow of stacked cards.

All in all? Two steps forward, one step back. Between the two platforms everything is covered, but each on its own is still missing things.

I agree completely. If we had a magic wand I think it would be interesting to serve up android candy in a webOS wrapper. Let matias bless it and have core apps that follow the webos/enyo design language and give people a good example to follow. That would knock people's socks off... And I think would solve a lot of the problems people have with android.