View Poll Results: Who Will Win the 2007 Tour de France

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  • Levi Leipheimer USA Team: Discovery Channel

    1 50.00%
  • George Hincapie USA Team: Discovery Channel

    1 50.00%
  • Dave Zabriskie USA Team: CSC

    0 0%
  • Christophe MOREAU FRA Team: AG2R Prévoyance

    0 0%
  • Alexandre VINOKOUROV SUI Team: Astana

    0 0%
  • Andreas Kloeden GER Team: Astana

    0 0%
  • Oscar PEREIRO ESP Team: Caisse d'Épargne

    0 0%
  • AAlejandro VELVERDE ESP Team: Caisse d'Épargne

    0 0%
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  1.    #1  

    It is that time of year again. Tomorrow, July 7th, starts the Tour de France. I love this race and have followed it faithfully since 1985.

    This thread is dedicated to discussing this year's race. So....please vote who you think will win and let's see who is right!

    Running from Saturday July 7th to Sunday July 29th 2007, the 94th Tour de France will be made up of a prologue and 20 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,550 kilometres.

    These 20 stages have the following profiles:
    • 11 flat stages
    • 6 mountain stages
    • 1 medium mountain stage
    • 2 individual time-trial stages

    Distinctive aspects of the race
    • 3 mountain finishes
    • 2 rest days
    • 117 kilometres of individual time-trials (including the prologue)
    • 21 Category 1, Category 2 and highest level passes will be climbed
  2.    #2  
    Here is a little about some of the favorites for this year. It will be interesting to see if any one person can pull himself out from the rest to stamp his race leadership with authority.

    PARIS — A look at some of the main title contenders for the 2007 Tour de France, which starts Saturday:

    Alexandre Vinokourov
    3rd in 2003; 5th in 2005. Didn't race in 2006 Tour after five teammates were implicated in a doping scandal. The 33-year-old Kazak has won three Tour stages, and the 2006 Tour of Spain. Strong on mountain climbs, and has worked to improve his time trials.

    Levi Leipheimer
    6th in 2005; 8th in 2002; 9th in 2004. The U.S. rider's Discovery Channel, casting around for a new champion since seven-time Tour winner Lance Armstrong retired in 2005, hopes that Leipheimer will at least finish in the top three. "I am 100 percent ready," said the 33-year-old.

    Andreas Kloeden
    Runner-up to Armstrong in 2004 and third last year. The tall, skinny German was a close associate of Jan Ullrich, who has since retired under a doping cloud. Kloeden now rides for the Astana team of Vinokourov. He is a strong climber and very fast. Won the Tirreno-Adriatico race in Italy in March.

    Oscar Pereiro
    Runner-up to Floyd Landis last year and could still be declared the 2006 Tour champion if Landis loses his appeal after testing positive for synthetic testosterone. The Spanish rider's mountain climbing strength is offset by a weakness in time trials. Pereiro placed 10th in 2004 and 2005, winning a tough climb that year in the Pyrenees.

    Cadel Evans
    Abrasive, talented, fearless, Evans placed eighth in his first Tour two years ago and fifth in 2006. The 29-year-old Australian rider is a danger because of his strong climbing ability and stamina. Second at the Dauphine Libere race earlier this month, France's second-biggest stage race after the Tour.

    Christophe Moreau
    Eleven years after finishing 75th in his Tour debut, the 36-year-old French rider is blossoming late in his career. By winning the Dauphine Libere earlier this month, Moreau showed that his experience and climbing ability could still trouble more talented riders. Best Tour finish was fourth in 2000.

    Alejandro Valverde
    Long tipped as one of Spain's brightest cycling prospects, the 27-year-old Valverde made his mark at the 2005 Tour when he beat Lance Armstrong in a tense mountain finish on the 10th stage from Grenoble to Courchevel. Even Armstrong was impressed. Valverde finished second at last year's Spanish Vuelta.
  3.    #3  
    For those who maybe new to the Tour de France here is how it works:

    The leaders of a team and his team mates racing on the Tour de France try to excel, individually or by the support they provide to their team. According to the stage profiles, the evolution of the general standings or some unexpected circumstance during the race, each rider adapts his objectives to the situation. The winners of the various prizes eventually share the honours and the money at stake with their team mates. Enough to make (almost!) everybody happy.

    Stage victory
    The 21 stages of the 2007 Tour de France are divided up as follows: 1 prologue, 11 flat stages, 6 mountain stages, 1 medium mountain stage and 2 individual time-trial stages.
    Prize money: € 8,000 for each stage victory.


    Yellow Jersey

    It rewards the leader of the general classification, calculated by adding together the times achieved on each stage. Also taken into account are any bonifications earned on the intermediate sprints or the finish. It is of course the Yellow Jersey that is most coveted. Since it is the overall time that matters, a person can win the Yellow Jersey without actually winning any stages.
    Prize money: € 450,000 for the winner of the final classification

    Green Jersey

    It identifies the leader in the classification on points. The points in question are awarded according to the passing order on the intermediate sprints and at the finish line. It is the sprint specialists who generally vie for this jersey.
    Prize money: € 25,000 for the winner of the classification on points.

    Polka Dot Jersey

    It goes to the best climber. The points counting towards the mountain classification are awarded on the basis of the passing order at the top of the cotes or cols.
    Prize money: € 25,000 for the winner of the “mountain classification”.

    White Jersey

    It is given to the best young rider on Le Tour. Only riders aged 25 or under compete for this jersey.
    Prize money: € 20,000 for the best young rider.

    Combativity award (fighting spirit award)
    This prize is awarded at the end of each stage by a jury comprising eight specialists in cycling. A “super-combativity” prize is also awarded at the end of the last stage of the Tour.
    Prize money: € 20,000 for the “super combativity” award.

    Overall team standings

    This classification is determined by adding the times of the best three riders of each squad in each stage. This year, the Tour de France has no team time-trial stage.
    Prize money: € 50,000 for the winning team.


    Mountain classification: double points for the final climb
    Since the 2004 edition of the Tour de France, the competition for the Polka Dot Jersey includes a detail adding some spice to the race: for the final climb on a stage’s profile, the points are doubled for Category 1, Category 2 and Top Category climbs. So the riders present at the top of this classification are undoubtedly the most courageous ones and the prize goes to those who remain on top of the classification for the longest period of time.

    Bonus seconds: every second matters for the overall standings
    The following bonus seconds are awarded in all straight stages, except individual time-trial stages:

    6, 4 and 2 seconds respectively to the first three riders that cross the intermediate sprint lines. There are three intermediate sprints per flatland stage and two for the other straight stages.
    20, 12 and 8 seconds respectively to the first three riders of all the straight stages.

    Helmets are mandatory at all times
    In compliance with the UCI rules, helmets are mandatory for all riders, from the start to the finish line, on all the stages.

    Fall in the last three kilometres
    Since 2005, the riders who fall in the last three kilometres of a stage are awarded the same time as the group they were in.
    Last edited by HobbesIsReal; 07/09/2007 at 10:27 PM.
  4.    #4  
    For those who like Just The are some fun facts about the Tour:

    Calories consumed by a rider per day: 5,900 average, 9,000 max

    Calories burned by a rider in the course of the Tour: 123,900 (based on 5900-per day average at 21 days of racing)

    Number of pedal strokes taken per rider for the three weeks: 324,000 (at 60 rpm); 486,000 (at 90 rpm)

    Number (or miles) of barricades erected and torn down for the race: 217 miles

    Number of gendarmes (French military police officers) on the Tour: 13,000

    Number of chains worn out by a single rider: 3 (Armstrong went through a chain a week)

    Total number of tires used by the peloton: 792

    Number of finishers, worst-ever year: 10 in 1919 (out of 69 starters)

    Most stages won by a single rider, career total: 34, Eddy Merckx (1969: six stages and overall; 1970: eight stages and overall; 1971: four stages and overall; 1972: six stages and overall; 1974: eight stages and overall; 1975: two stages)

    Most number of stages won on single Tour: 8--Charles Pelissier (1930), Eddy Merckx (1970, 1974), and Freddy Maertens (1976)

    Most riders to wear yellow jersey in one Tour: 8 in 1987

    Most days spent in yellow jersey: 96 by Eddy Merckx (in 7 participations)

    Biggest winning margin (since 1947): 28 min 27 sec (Fausto Coppi--Stan Ockers in 1952)

    Smallest winning margin: 8 sec (Greg LeMond--Laurent Fignon in 1989)

    Longest solo breakaway: 253 km by Albert Bourlon in 1947

    Biggest winning margin on stage win: 22 min 50 sec by Jose Luis Viejo in 1976

    Fastest prologue: 55.152 kph by Chris Boardman in 1994 over 7.2 km

    Highest total number of "King of the Mountains" victories: 7 by Richard Virenque

    Fastest individual time trial: 54.545 kph by Greg LeMond in 1989 over 24.5 km

    Fastest team time trial: 54.930 kph by Gewiss in 1995 over 67 km

    Fastest average over a flat stage: 50.355 kph by Mario Cipollini in 1999 over 194.5 km (Laval-Blois)

    Fastest average over whole Tour: 40.276 kph by Lance Armstrong in 1999

    Oldest race winner: Firmin Lambot (36) in 1922

    Youngest winner: Henri Cornet (20) in 1904

    Most times participated by one rider: 16 (Joop Zoetemelk, between 1970 and 1986; he finished them all)

    Nine: Riders in each team and number of flat stages

    15: million spectators set to line the route

    20: stages

    22: teams

    36: French victories on the Tour since debut in 1903

    198: riders at the start

    228.5 km: longest stage in the Tour (Stage 2, from Obernai to Esch-sur-Alzette)

    1904: The year of the first documented case of cheating in the Tour

    2,965: hours of TV coverage

    1,860 m: the altitude of the L'Alpe d'Huez (Stage 15), the highest climb on this year's race

    3,653.6 km: the total distance

    8,400: food bags distributed at feeding stations throughout race

    25,055: number of security personnel.

    42,000: water bottles used by teams in race

    360,466 km: approximate distance of all previous 92 Tours de France

    3,200,000 euros: total prize money for the entire race

    450,000 euros: prize money for race winner,00.html
  5.    #5  
    I am personally pulling for Levi. I watched the Tour of California and he some impressive riding on his way to winning the race. I just hope he has been able to focus his peak this season for the Tour.
    Last edited by HobbesIsReal; 07/09/2007 at 10:46 PM.
  6. #6  
    an american didnt win last year?
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  7.    #7  
    Yes... Lance Armstrong won for 7 years straight, setting the all time new record, as many people felt it was impossible to break the previous record of winning 5 times...which 4 people held, and three of which tried and failed to go for 6 wins.

    Then last year Floyd Landis won, but he had a positive drug test come back positive for testosterone. He denies it. After nearly a year of the original charge, he went to a hearing last month that lasted a week (with enough drama in itself that I would surprised if we don't see at least a made for TV movie about it). The decision from that hearing should be back sometime in the next month...maybe even while the Tour is still going (though politically I think they will wait until it is over). If they come back against him, he could be the first Tour winner to be stripped of the Yellow Jersey and he would probably receive a two year ban from professional racing (which is the standard ban for a illegal performance enhancement drug charge in the cycling world).

    With the charges still looming unresolved, Landis is not racing in the tour this year. Normally number One is recieved for the returning champ....but under these strange and new circumstances I think I read that they will not be assigning number One this year to anyone.
  8. #8  
    Landis is a jerk!

    I was on the fence on this one until I heard what he did to Lemond. Now I hope they strip him of any win.
  9.    #9  
    He didn't do it to attorney on the attorney team did. As soon as they heard the testimony of what he did...they fired him on the spot in the middle of court.
  10. #10  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal View Post
    He didn't do it to attorney on the attorney team did. As soon as they heard the testimony of what he did...they fired him on the spot in the middle of court.
    Lemond told Landis that in a personal conversation. The only way an attorney on the team would know it is if Landis revealed it. Landis is a self serving jacka$$.
  11.    #11  
    I didn't follow every detail of this trail....and I noticed different things being reported from different sources at times too.......but, I thought that the Attorney called and pretended to be Lemond's uncle. Then when LeMond reported it to the prosecuting attornies, they traced it to a cell phone to one an attorney on the team for Landis. When this was revealed in court while LeMond was on the stand, the lead attorney (who had no clue this happened) turned and fired him on the spot before LeMond was off the stand.

    If Landis did know that attorney did this ahead of time, then yes.....that is NOT cool and totally unethical. He did not make the call, or apparently didn't help plan to have the call made, etc.... but if he knew about it after the fact and did not tell the lead attorney, then no matter if he didn't tell because he was scared, because he selfishly thought it might help him, was certainly wrong and he shot himself in his own foot.
  12. #12  
    Landis disclosed the private info to his attorneys. The attorneys decided to try and blackmail Lemond into not testifying. Of course they threw someone under the bus when Lemond didn't blink, they knew they would have to do that.

    Point is Landis violated a friends trust and confidence. That makes him a scumbag.
  13.    #13  
    For those who want to see the highlights of the major events of the day (break away, crashes, crossing the line, etc...) in videos only lasting a view minutes you can at:

    (here is actually a direct link to their video library:,7790,,00.html )

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    Hobbes, thanks for all the great info. Being an ex- cat4 racer and having followed the tour since Lemonds days, you provided a lot of great info
  15.    #15  
    Thanks ktm, glad you enjoyed it.

    The last two links have good video clips, but probably the most boring commentaries I have ever seen for the Tour de France. Here is the best video site with by far the best video highlight clips of the day:

    You will want to select the day you want to watch the highlights for and then select the video you want (crashes, the finish, etc...)

    There was a HUGE crash today within the last 3 km. To help protect the riders from the crazy antics of the sprinters at the end of races, the international cycling regs states that if a crash happens in the last 3k of the race then all the riders involved will have the same time as the main body.....there was no major shift in the overall standings as a result.
  16.    #16  
    Here is a recap of the who got hurt that big crash today:

    Watching several guys riding across the finish line today holding one arm or the other against their chests, it looked like there would be lots of riders in the hospital and/or not starting the race tomorrow. There will undoubtedly be some whose injuries are too great to continue, but so far these are the only updates I can find.

    First, Fabian Cancellara said, “When the crash happened it hurt but it’s OK now. There’s nothing wrong. We will let the physios have a look at the hotel. I was frightened when I fell and it was a tough day with lots of tension and lots of spectators. It was nice (having so many spectators) but also dangerous because you always have to stay alert.” So, that’s good news - he didn’t look so much hurt as concerned when he rode across the finish.

    Then, on the other end of the scale, there’s the news that “Lampre sprinter Daniele Bennati has been taken to hospital with a suspected hip injury” - and that’s never a good sign.

    I’m very curious to know what the status is on riders like Freddie Rodriguez and Thomas Vaitkus, who looked worst of the guys I saw. I’ll be very surprised if they’re both at the start tomorrow.

    UPDATE: The husband just sent me this note from the Discovery Channel website:

    Caught in the peloton spill at 3K remaining in Monday’s stage, George Hincapie sustained a slight right-knee contusion & will start Tuesday. Tomas Vaitkus suffered unstable fractures of the right thumb, which will require surgery including a plate. Vaitkus will undergo surgery this evening and will not start TDF Stage 3. All other DC riders OK. More news as available.

    I was afraid Vatikus would be out, poor guy. Watching Contador push him across the finish was a nice show of teamwork, but it didn’t exactly make you optimistic that he’d be able to ride on his own tomorrow. And poor George, this just ain’t his season so far, is it?

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