i finally ordered my visor deluxe, i got the graphite one. I hope i don't have any of the hotsync problems, or any of the chipping/cracking problems at the top. all in all, i'm really excited, I decided to not do what that ken fellow did and look in the troubleshooting/problems category of the bbs. figured i'd rather read good things about the visor than bad things.. i'll let you all know how long it takes for it to come for those who care. i ordered it around 12pm weds. afternoon 1-26-00.