The Big Picture : HP Touchpad will be a success.

**toasterthegamer** · 06/30/2011, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by samab

What's lol is that RIM (the email specialist) launched a tablet with a sucky email experience and Palm (the "web" specialist) launched a tablet with a sucky javascript experience.

and your biasing this poor java-script experience on? what? the low score? Go try it for yourself and then judge.

**Carioca_FL** · 06/30/2011, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by WebOSFan12

The HDMI adapter is coming

Listen, I really like webOS, like most around here, but sometimes you stretch things a bit. How did you possibly come up with that assumption?

Let me be clear, I couldn't care less about video out and, personally, I don't understand all the fuss for this feature (this isn't a laptop replacement, after all), but that's a huge assumption you're making.

I'm fully prepared to eat my words if I'm wrong, though.

**Carioca_FL** · 06/30/2011, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by samab

There is no easy port for Netflix --- all the codes that are important are in the DRM and that's native c codes, not HTML5 stuff.

Actually, the DRM features are embedded into the Qualcomm chipset.

**dcbo89** · 06/30/2011, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by WebOSFan12

From what I have heard from an insider, the HDMI adapter is coming but no word on release date....it's similar to how the iPad does HDMI with an adapter from its USB port.

I am hopeful of this happening, but until I officially hear something I'm taking your word with a pinch of salt, no offense. And Apple has a special port which one assumes is more robust than microusb.

**Weaser999** · 06/30/2011, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by WebOSFan12

And Android Honeycomb was less prepared at launch. With the ecosystem HP is building for WebOS the app selection will explode.

What did HP say, selling one laptop every 15 seconds? By next year it will be one laptop with webOS every 15 seconds. This strategy works. Just ask Sony how they won the Blu Ray war and muscled out microsoft by adding blu ray to every ps3.

**Beanis** · 06/30/2011, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Weaser999

What did HP say, selling one laptop every 15 seconds? By next year it will be one laptop with webOS every 15 seconds. This strategy works. Just ask Sony how they won the Blu Ray war and muscled out microsoft by adding blu ray to every ps3.

Actually they forced HD DVD to fold by offering half a billion dollars in incentives to Warner Bros. to go exclusive.

But another story....

**shingi_70** · 06/30/2011, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by WebOSFan12

Once the massive advertisement campaign starts, these reviews will look silly. The market will be capitalized like HP wants it to be and the Touchpad will be a success. I think people are missing the big picture here, 99% of the world doesn't read Engadget and many will buy the Touchpad simply due to marketing, which HP is hiding right now and is about to blanket all the airwaves.
Just imagine a teenage hipster girl sitting at home watching television (hipsters watching television? anyway...) and she sees the Russel Brand Touchpad commercial...BOOM she wants one.
The End.

Russel Brand doesn't appeal to hipsters. If anything they would get an ipad or android tablet just to spite an obvious attempt at mainstream marketing. Now get the black keys, foster the people, best coast, or toro y moi then we might have a deal.

**shingi_70** · 06/30/2011, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Weaser999

What did HP say, selling one laptop every 15 seconds? By next year it will be one laptop with webOS every 15 seconds. This strategy works. Just ask Sony how they won the Blu Ray war and muscled out microsoft by adding blu ray to every ps3.

Web Os on pCs died the day windows 8 was announced. Microsoft isn't going let one layer get ontop of another layer thats better intergreated.

**gbp** · 06/30/2011, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by WebOSFan12

I think people are missing the big picture here, 99% of the world doesn't read Engadget and many will buy the Touchpad simply due to marketing, which HP is hiding right now and is about to blanket all the airwaves.

Totally agree. If the world was reading engadget and other sites Palm would have been alive and kicking.

**hparsons** · 06/30/2011, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by dcbo89

I am hopeful of this happening, but until I officially hear something I'm taking your word with a pinch of salt, no offense. And Apple has a special port which one assumes is more robust than microusb.

Oooops - wait a minute, why would "one assume that"?
USB is very robust (with the drivers). Micro USB doesn't change that, just changes the size of the connector. Let's not get wonky with the the technology. USB is a serial bus, and pretty robust.

**ExWebOSFan** · 06/30/2011, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by shingi_70

Russel Brand doesn't appeal to hipsters. If anything they would get an ipad or android tablet just to spite an obvious attempt at mainstream marketing. Now get the black keys, foster the people, best coast, or toro y moi then we might have a deal.

Ahhh Yeah but I guess I was saying a teenage girl who dressed like a hipster.

**jahjahlove** · 06/30/2011, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by dcbo89

still lacks video out though, and I'm still not buying.

When compared with the toshiba tablet thats coming out that has FUll HDMI, Full USB ports, Full SD card slot, its laughable that HP only included a miniusb port on this tablet. And more than anything else that killed it for me.

The toshiba Thrive is one ugly tablet with its "silver eye" around the webcam.

**shingi_70** · 06/30/2011, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by gbp

Totally agree. If the world was reading engadget and other sites Palm would have been alive and kicking.

I'd say more non techies go to engadge now the huff post links all thier tech articles t engadget.

Also the thrive is ugly get the transformer or iconca if you need the ports.

**Useraid** · 06/30/2011, 09:57 AM

Most of the world:

Q: Does it have a big fruit logo on the back and did our lord bring the tablet down from mount sinai and proclaim it magic?

A: No -- forget it!

**BMIC50** · 06/30/2011, 10:31 AM

Wow...there has been a little bit of flaming going on here...

1 - Marketing, as evidenced by Apple, Motorola/Verizon (Droid), and Beats Audio, works to drive sales regardless of the superiority of the object/service being sold

2 - Video out would work better wirelessly, be it WiDi or Airplay (wasnt Apple open to licensing that tech?) or DLNA, and I wouldnt want to have a tablet tethered to my tv 8ft-10ft away and the main way of controlling it would be touch.

3 - Netflix is probably on one of the many other devices that a tablet buyer already has, so I am confused why its a big deal at the home. Yes, it would be nice to play it on the go, but I am praying that browser compatibility will be the way that they implement Netflix.

4 - Sony won the war two-fold: The beat HD-DVD in hardware sales due to the PS3 and the late arrival of the Xbox add-on AND they ponied up the dough to make it happen

**Ulairi** · 06/30/2011, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by stung

plus it will have all essential apps at launch. i like kool aid

Why are you here?

**shingi_70** · 06/30/2011, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by BMIC50

Wow...there has been a little bit of flaming going on here...

1 - Marketing, as evidenced by Apple, Motorola/Verizon (Droid), and Beats Audio, works to drive sales regardless of the superiority of the object/service being sold

2 - Video out would work better wirelessly, be it WiDi or Airplay (wasnt Apple open to licensing that tech?) or DLNA, and I wouldnt want to have a tablet tethered to my tv 8ft-10ft away and the main way of controlling it would be touch.

3 - Netflix is probably on one of the many other devices that a tablet buyer already has, so I am confused why its a big deal at the home. Yes, it would be nice to play it on the go, but I am praying that browser compatibility will be the way that they implement Netflix.

4 - Sony won the war two-fold: The beat HD-DVD in hardware sales due to the PS3 and the late arrival of the Xbox add-on AND they ponied up the dough to make it happen

The netflix website is built upon silverlight which there is no mobile plug in for.

**BMIC50** · 06/30/2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by shingi_70

The netflix website is built upon silverlight which there is no mobile plug in for.

I understand, which is why I am hopeful that they see the value in converting it to HTLM5 instead of just creating an app for each ecosystem.

**Hobbz** · 06/30/2011, 11:02 AM

There's lots & lots of assumptions being made in this thread. The TP is definitely the underdog for at least the next few weeks. It's going to take 3-6 months to see if HP is successful. They want to be at the top of the market and are off to a sluggish start from the block.

I don't care about HP's grand plans. I'm more interested in seeing them in action. Hopefully they recover from their hangovers after all the recent parties and get to work.

**Carioca_FL** · 06/30/2011, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Weaser999

What did HP say, selling one laptop every 15 seconds? By next year it will be one laptop with webOS every 15 seconds. This strategy works. Just ask Sony how they won the Blu Ray war and muscled out microsoft by adding blu ray to every ps3.

You honestly don't expect HP to add a TouchPad to every. single. laptop. -do you?

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