[splisskin]

I don't like that guy.... Review really seemed incomplete

[clevin]

people, discussing the points, not attacking the reviewer.

[Merovingian]

I like how he notes that it doesn't have GPS, you know like my WiFi iPad. Oh wait . . .

If my wifi Galaxy Tab has a gps built in, then shame on Apple and Palm for not having such as well. So whats your point? This review was tame at best, its only going to get worse as more folks get to review it.

[nappy]

people, discussing the points, not attacking the reviewer.

I agree with you. The negatives Pogue brings up -- hardly any meaningful apps, slow performance, hefty design -- are very real issues to consider.

[gbp]

the link doesn't work, where is the link

[mosdl]

The touchpad has working IP-based gps...

[clevin]

the link doesn't work, where is the link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/30/te...ewanted=2&_r=1

[VCI_Cell]

If my wifi Galaxy Tab has a gps built in, then shame on Apple and Palm for not having such as well. So whats your point? This review was tame at best, its only going to get worse as more folks get to review it.

Thanks for that fine bit of clairvoyance.

Everyone lighting into Pogue: I find the guy kind of annoying to watch on video, and he definitely could have been more thorough (or his copy editor could have been less hungover). That said, it's a fairly well-done review and it makes some good points.

Is it what we hoped for? No. But it's also hard to disbelieve. We know how the TouchPad stacks up (or doesn't) compared to the competition. We know webOS tends to be laggier than the market leader, no matter how speedy the hardware is. We know it's missing other features that other tablets have, etc. This review shouldn't be a surprise.

Let's keep an eye out for the tech blog reviews - there will be plenty to moan about in those.

[toasterthegamer]

Woah what a horrible review! This isn't even news worthy..

[JayhawkOne]

I agree with you. The negatives Pogue brings up -- hardly any meaningful apps, slow performance, hefty design -- are very real issues to consider.

He certainly didn't do any research on why the positves MATTER tho. He just kinda listed them out.

Essentially he compared the TouchPad to everything else. He didn't spend near as much time learning about its merits. Any product that truly innovates beyond anything he's used to will probably fly over this guy's head.

[sketch42]

sure, lets wait for more reviews. But you really can be convinced by 5 reviews?

yea.. the more the better..

[clevin]

He certainly didn't do any research on why the positves MATTER tho. He just kinda listed them out.

Essentially he compared the TouchPad to everything else. He didn't spend near as much time learning about its merits. Any product that truly innovates beyond anything he's used to will probably fly over this guy's head.

you shouldn't assume that, David has enough experiences with previous webOS devices. He reviewed those with fair points.

[nappy]

He certainly didn't do any research on why the positves MATTER tho. He just kinda listed them out.

Essentially he compared the TouchPad to everything else. He didn't spend near as much time learning about its merits. Any product that truly innovates beyond anything he's used to will probably fly over this guy's head.

I think Pogue's point is the positives aren't very meaningful to most people that would buy a tablet.

[sketch42]

people, discussing the points, not attacking the reviewer.

problem is he doesnt really discuss the points.. he gave a summary review at best

[samab]

Surprise that HP hasn't finished the syncing software for both Windows and Mac --- that's even worse than the Playbook (which didn't have a Mac syncing software).

[oswego]

I'm sure he has already submitted a copy to apple as an invoice for payment

[nappy]

I'm sure he has already submitted a copy to apple as an invoice for payment

Can we not do this? Pogue raises very valid points in his review and his criticisms are concerns HP should be aware of.

[mhunterjr]

i'm at best buy posting this from a touchpad. The final device would have to be much worse than this demo unit in order to get a bad review from me. I havent seen an ounce of slowdown...

[clevin]

problem is he doesnt really discuss the points.. he gave a summary review at best

he said:

flash sometimes jerkily
much of touchpad's promises remains theoretical
8 hr battery
run phone apps at phone size
not many apps, no google earth, no netflix
hardware is not good enough
system is slow

and he also praised webOS, touchstone

Those are all legit points a customer will pay attention to.

[Hobbz]

Folks, the article is a review, not a point-by-point critique. You don't read movie reviews telling what they think of each scene. It's a general impression and hits on the main high points and low points. If you want a detailed critique, go visit someplace like CNET or other such source in a few weeks after it's published.

I think it's a good, solid review. He doesn't ignore the points people have been concerned about and he gives equal time to the positives while trying to explain how the TouchPad distinguishes itself from the competition. I imagine some are turned off by his powerfully sarcastic humor.

Nice find, OP. Definitely worth sharing.