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04/15/2011, 08:11 AM
#50
 Originally Posted by tholap
Fair enough. Please provide a link to last years Tablet/Pad device that has multi-tasking 1.2 GHz dual core processor, great non-blocking notifications, front-facing camera, ...
Im not sure I get your point here??
"copycat" - we need to make a distinction here.
In general terms of Tablet/Pad/Slate formfactor *everybody* (Samsung, HP, RIM, etc...) is doing copycats based on IPads success.
...and how's that working for them? Did Samsung not recently say they needed to go back and evaluate their device when iPad2 was announced? The Xoom sold how many? How did it work out for the Zune ala iPod? RIM Playbook is only in the hands of reviewers; not on the market that I know of...yet. Although they stole the webOS concept and injury to insult, beat HP to market.
But in specific details webos devices differ (multi-tasking, card metaphor, notifications, Touchstone, ...).
Strong iOS sales show those being minor to dissuade iOS purchasers. Otherwise webOS and the Pre would have been a smashing success and Palm would still exist today.
Counter question: Unless you are invested in ITunes ecosystem why would you get an IPad?
Don't get me wrong - there are solid reasons to get an IPad - chief among them the already large app selection. But there's also good reasons to prefer one of the alternatives - like the Touchpad. When it comes to multi-tasking and UI Apple has still not caught up with webos - IMHO.
Wholeheartedly agree. I left webOS for an iPhone (for economics, believe it or not...entirely different conversation). The iPhone is great; solid build, great reliability and performance. However I felt like the UI and UX is a 1/2-step backwards. iOS conventions are getting really old. Many things can be improved. I have an extensive iTunes library but hardly ever sync....only for the infrequent back-up. However, it looks as though Apple is making a correction to the tethering-to-iTunes approach. This may invalidate the iTunes argument as it turns more into a service.
But when Android first appeared most reviewers were skeptic about their chances against IPhone - in a situation that is very similar now when you replace smartphones with tablets. Now - after Android has conquered the #1 spot in smartphones those early reviewes look silly.
How could they not be skeptic at first? Android 1.0 sucked. I always had a feeling that it would take three revisions/three years to get it right. Same as iPhone and I expect the same with webOS. Android has far more potential to plateau should Google limit their help/funding into hardware partner integration. Perhaps this is what happened to the Xoom?
All I'm saying is that Apples continued success isn't guaranteed either and HPs Touchpad is a solid first entry.
This is assuming Apple will stand idle. They have proven that just when their product is about to become stale, they hit the market with a game changer....no guarantee they can keep up this pace, but they've hit home runs most every time. They've got a good formula. HP has potential with a solid foundation in webOS. I hope they can hold to tight integration with hardware and software. Something Google has less control over. Back to the Xoom...perhaps too much software and UI expectation than hardware could embrace. When I tried the Xoom my first impression was to grab a RedBull and attack the UI/UX with ADHD fervor. It was something so different from the foundation that Android was built upon....as if they are trying too hard to build their next thing.
And those who are most inclined to buy an IPad - have already done so
I disagree. Those who are savvy, wanted an iPad have them (iPad1). There are many more that haven't been exposed to the iPad until it is shown them. I didn't think it was such a big deal until I tried one out. Within a few minutes, I got the concept and thought it was fantastic. So for many, its not something you think you want until you've been exposed. I know of at least a dozen friends/family members who bought an iPad upon being shown by someone else who has it. This is a big part of the success of the iPad2.
And even some of those will have been annoyed by some Apple particulars that will make a Touchpad more appealing.
well, here too. I'm waiting for the TouchPad before I buy an iPad2. Still way too many Flash sites on the web and webOS multitasking is Like A Boss. I'd be won over for sure over the iPad2 knowing that the differentiating features for smartphone integration wasn't limited to HP hardware only (Pre3/Veer).
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