Will Pre3 be 4g???

**kevinjohn** · 02/10/2011, 05:31 PM

I'm a little confused about this. I have tried looking it up with no luck. This will be very important in my decission to get the Pre3. Does anyone know, or is it an unknown at this point? I'm suprised knowone else is asking about this.

**realistdreamer** · 02/10/2011, 05:33 PM

[Meanie hat on]
Use search. Better yet, read the PreCentral coverage.
[/Meanie hat off]

**6tr6tr** · 02/10/2011, 05:33 PM

No it will not. They announced it's HSPA+ (which has been tested to run as fast as most competitor's 4G networks) and EVDOrevA which is just 3G for CDMA.

**EvilKell** · 02/10/2011, 05:40 PM

HSPA+ is/will be marketed as 4G for T Mobile and AT&T, and the Palm Pre 3 supports HSPA+

Sprint's 4G network is WiMax.
Verizon's 4G network will be LTE.

If you consider WiMax or LTE to be "4G" then you need to consider HSPA+ to be "4G".

**GuyFromNam** · 02/10/2011, 05:44 PM

They would've used 4G, wouldn't they?
Or 'EVO Killer' LOL

**Garrett92C** · 02/10/2011, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by EvilKell

HSPA+ is/will be marketed as 4G for T Mobile and AT&T, and the Palm Pre 3 supports HSPA+

Sprint's 4G network is WiMax.
Verizon's 4G network will be LTE.

If you consider WiMax or LTE to be "4G" then you need to consider HSPA+ to be "4G".

It depends which HSPA radio they put in it. I believe they come in 7mbps, 14mbps, 21mbps, and 42mbps. My numbers may be slightly off, but you get the idea. Tmo 4G phones are currently being released with the 21mbps radio.

Swyped from my HTC HD2 (CM7)

**kevinjohn** · 02/10/2011, 05:46 PM

Ok... So I'm not a real technical guy but that sounds like a YES?

**Garrett92C** · 02/10/2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by kevinjohn23

Ok... So I'm not a real technical guy but that sounds like a YES?

Depends which radio they use. The answer is "maybe" lol

Swyped from my HTC HD2 (CM7)

**EvilKell** · 02/10/2011, 05:54 PM

HSPA+ networks are almost all 21Mbit/s. T Mobile is using 21Mbit/s currently and moving to 42Mbit/s.

The real world expected speeds for T Mobile and AT&T HSPA+ networks are expected to be very competitive with WiMax. Arguing theoretical maximums is kinda moot because nobody sees them.

So the answer is almost definitely YES.

**carr76013** · 02/10/2011, 06:01 PM

Tmobile or Att... Yes

Verizon or Sprint... No

Now we wait to hear where this thing lands.

**kevinjohn** · 02/10/2011, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by EvilKell

HSPA+ networks are almost all 21Mbit/s. T Mobile is using 21Mbit/s currently and moving to 42Mbit/s.

The real world expected speeds for T Mobile and AT&T HSPA+ networks are expected to be very competitive with WiMax. Arguing theoretical maximums is kinda moot because nobody sees them.

So the answer is almost definitely YES.

Sweet thanks. I guess we are really just waiting for carriers then... Come on Sprint and lets get-r-done...

**turdsamich** · 02/10/2011, 06:06 PM

Its only going to be 3G on sprint.

**spudland** · 02/10/2011, 06:08 PM

Why won't this work on 4G with Sprint? (sorry, this is for the uneducated of us...just me?...really?...fine! I still want to know). :P

**EvilKell** · 02/10/2011, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by spudland

Why won't this work on 4G with Sprint? (sorry, this is for the uneducated of us...just me?...really?...fine! I still want to know). :P

Sprint uses a WiMax network for 4G that uses a completely different radio technology than HSPA+ or LTE. Since an HSPA+ radio can't communicate on a WiMax network, it cannot use 4G on Sprint assuming there are no additional changes released which would make WiMax on the Pre 3 possible.

**Melaza** · 02/10/2011, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by spudland

Why won't this work on 4G with Sprint? (sorry, this is for the uneducated of us...just me?...really?...fine! I still want to know). :P

Because Sprint and Verizon is CDMA and they only have EVDOrevA (3G) on the Pre3

But if you were to get it in AT&T or T-Mobile it would be HSPA+ wich they're are calling it 4G

**turdsamich** · 02/10/2011, 06:19 PM

I thought AT&T was going with LTE for 4G has this changed recently?

**spudland** · 02/10/2011, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by EvilKell

Sprint uses a WiMax network for 4G that uses a completely different radio technology than HSPA+ or LTE. Since an HSPA+ radio can't communicate on a WiMax network, it cannot use 4G on Sprint assuming there are no additional changes released which would make WiMax on the Pre 3 possible.

So is it possible to get Palm to put a radio in that would be compatible with WiMax?

**EvilKell** · 02/10/2011, 06:24 PM

It's highly unlikely as from what I understand, the Pre 3's SoC wasn't designed to support WiMax.

**ppp2** · 02/10/2011, 06:29 PM

I can't see why anyone would want to buy a phone in the summer time that doesn't support 4g. Just about every other smart phone will be 4g by then, quite possibly including the iphone on verzion.

such a silly move by HP, I'm still shaking my head a whole day later

**bradenfontaine** · 02/10/2011, 06:30 PM

wish they would release carrier info so know whether im getting the pre2 or pre 3

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