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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    YES!!!

    Got it working just now. All I had to do was spend 15 minutes on the phone to the clueless Orange technical team....

    What you need to do is call 156 and select option 4, then option 2. Tell the operator you need to get CSD (Circuit Switched Data) activated on your account which will require them sending you a SIM update SMS (or four, in my case!?!?). You will probably get put through to someone else who will sort this for you.

    The 'expert' I spoke to initially guided me through setting up a network connection but it was clear he was just reading from a manual because the instructions he gave me were to type 'ISP number' in the phone no. section an 'ISP username' in the username section etc!!! He thought those were the actual settings and not a prompt to enter *my* ISP's settings!

    The ISP I'm using is called UK2net and the settings are:

    Username: uk2
    Password: uk2
    Phone Number: 0845 665 3000

    No signup or registration needed and any number of people can use the above settings at the same time!
    Tried the above last night but to no avail

    I spoke to Neville in data support to activate CSD on my account but he informed me that it's always been on there any way.

    No idea what the problem is, the settings are so few and simple it should work!
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks
    Tried the above last night but to no avail

    I spoke to Neville in data support to activate CSD on my account but he informed me that it's always been on there any way.

    No idea what the problem is, the settings are so few and simple it should work!
    Does it even attempt to dial? If not, then CSD is probably not activated on your account (...apologies to Neville).
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    I have my doubts about Neville's abilities admittedly!

    When I click connect an error screen pops up stating:

    Error: GPRS connection not available. Check your settings in network preferences and/ or try again later (0x7143).

    I did mention this to him as I know I'm not trying to connect via GPRS; he assured me that CSD was active on my account though.
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    Phone and speak to someone else. They have to send you a SIM update SMS to get it to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate at 12/10/2005 11:06 AM
    Phone and speak to someone else. They have to send you a SIM update SMS to get it to work.
    A little OT question: I do get those SMS messages from TMo as well as recent as last week.

    Is there anyway to know what those are or what they've disabled or enabled?
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    At last!! Wireless Dial-up now works!

    I spoke to another Orange data support chap; I asked him to re-send the CSD settings via a sim up date and he simply said 'They're on their way', and it now connects.

    So a big for Neville, but a big to you guys for helping
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo2000
    A little OT question: I do get those SMS messages from TMo as well as recent as last week.

    Is there anyway to know what those are or what they've disabled or enabled?
    Not to my knowledge, all they ever say is Sim Update. I assume if you ever have to hard reset that they are removed.

    I think they are usually only ever for data transfers etc. Orange seem to have them for GPRS, CSD, MMS etc.
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    Glad you got it working aswell Hicks. Now I have dial-up, I feel better about collecting my email on the odd occasion I can't get to a computer, cos it only uses my free talk-time! I wish the connection showed up on the call log though - I have no way of knowing how long I've been connected.

    I think SIM updates do something directly to your SIM card so they are unaffected by anything you do on your Treo, including hard resets.
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    Hmmm... I was just doing some calculations as I was sure that dialup would be more expensive than a gprs tariff:

    I get 5MB for 6 on Vodafone
    5 is between 50-75 minutes depending on the starting tariff
    A 56k dialup with no overhead can download 5MB in 11-12 minutes

    Guess I was wrong... I would assume you're going to rack up quite a few minutes checking your e-mail every half an hour though, assuming theres a minimum call length or charge.
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    I'll wait for my next bill to see what shows up for my test connections. Before that I'm not planning on using the Dial-up connection.

    My main reason for needing this was that I have plenty of spare 'free' minutes so I don't want to pay a data tariff for the few times I ever need to check something on the move.
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    Bet you're right about the SIM updates Checkmate; they must alter the SIM card, thinking about it. Otherwise after a hard reset the phone wouldn't still be 'data enabled' and GPRS/ MMS wouldn't function.

    I have a feeling that 0845 numbers will not be taken out of your free talk time. I've had issues with Orange over this before.

    The main reason I wanted to be able to connect via dial-up is that you can't always rely on having a GPRS signal.
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    You're right about the 0845 numbers Hicks. They get charged at the local rate and aren't counted in your inclusive minutes, dammit!
    I've managed to get hold of a non-0845 dialup number now though, so I'll see what happens there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by checkmate
    You're right about the 0845 numbers Hicks. They get charged at the local rate and aren't counted in your inclusive minutes, dammit!
    I've managed to get hold of a non-0845 dialup number now though, so I'll see what happens there.
    Come on Checkmate! You're not holding out on me with that non 0845 dial-up number are you
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    I would share but it's my Dad's Eurobell account, so I have to use his logon details.
    They don't seem to accept new registrations either.
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    I have a sneaky suspicion ANY data calls are chargeable, regardless of the number used. Check out this forum thread on the subject:

    http://www.net4nowtforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3882
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    Looks like I'll be sticking with GPRS then. I do have Orange World Access 10 so this will have to do for now.

    I was only thinking of using dial-up as a last resort when GPRS is not available....
    It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer- Albert Einstein.

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    and I'll stop being such a tightarse and pay for the odd bit of data here and there when I really *need* to look at the web/collect an email.

    I was so pleased with myself about getting this to work too....
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