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  1.    #61  
    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet
    I agree...the crap thing was...well, a load of crap.
    Don't push it dutch..
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  2. #62  
    Well I have a question. Why are crude female body part references posted SEVERAL times and no one got a warning and the posts are still up? If that kind of language is allowed, then I don't understand what the standard is here. If the "c" word is unacceptable then the "p" word should for sure be unacceptable! I also have seen people try use the "f" word, no warnings.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  3.    #63  
    because we are not omnipotent nor omnipresent.
    If you find a post offensive please hit the triangle with the ! on it below the avantar that way we get allerted.
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  4.    #64  
    Tundycentral got banned for repeated spamming, even after an official warning
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  5. #65  
    Thank You.

    A round of applause for the staff!!
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    #66  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Tundycentral got banned for repeated spamming, even after an official warning
    Spamming of what? I don't believe tundy would make pointless posts to try and get people to sign his petition at www.XXXXXXXXXX.com
  7. #67  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Tundycentral got banned for repeated spamming, even after an official warning
    And the crowd goes wild!!!!!
  8. #68  
    mikec has been banned for a week for trolling.
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  9. #69  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagle
    mikec has been banned for a week for trolling.
    This is my YEA! vote for Tundy being gone...but he was like a persistent smarmy salesman. He tried to schmooze us into listening.
    He was easily ignored or incited into (sometimes) entertaining debates.

    Mikec was just plain mean...his sarcasm often confusing to new members. A break from HIM is what I'm happy about!
  10. #70  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagle
    mikec has been banned for a week for trolling.
    Yup. Nice little break. Maybe it'll calm him down.
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  11. #71  
    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet
    I agree...the crap thing was...well, a load of crap.
    I was on the road for about three weeks with only limited access to TC. When I returned, one of the most surprising things I noticed was what had been a thriving, busy forum for discussion seemed listless and far less vibrant.

    I have come across, here and there, some discussion about appropriate language. Language happens to be my business. The point is simple: words like "crap" exist largely to replace more objectionable words. Banning them is plainly arbitrary, since there are countless other words which also exist so that the more delicate among us are not offended.

    While I personally don't find even stronger terms objectionable, I can understand why in a certain forum the powers that be would dictate users restrain themselves. But people ban someone who uses "crap" -- which is NEITHER "obscene," NOR an obscenity -- ought to expect people to stop taking them seriously. By the same token, of course, "darn" and dozens of other words used in say, parochial grade-school classrooms, are obscene. And by using such an arbitrary standard to ban members, this forum is simply asking members to view their zeal as an expression of pure caprice, and perhaps even malice.
  12. #72  
    Agree with Rayfield. This forum had, to some extent, gotten out of hand. Too many personal comments, and a few (very few) using language too foul for many. But I think the moderators have over-reacted. Way over-reacted.

    But it's their playground. If we get tired of living in a dictatorship, we can always head over to MTDN.
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  13. #73  
    I can appreciate the interception of inappropriate posts. I used to go to one forum and the Mods seemed to allow all kinds of comments which got to a racial level and it just got too offensive.

    Here the mods really try and do a good job and keep it cool for the masses. There will always be those who do not want to comply and maybe this is not the place for them. No one forces anyone to come here, but if they do participate on the forum they should try and act like they respect each other. --Even if they are acting.

    We don't have to agree with each other but we don't have to totally TKO each other either. We probably wouldn't do it in person; at work or public place so why do it here just because we have an opposing opinion and a keyboard.

    So good job TC, you have a good standard and it should be maintained.
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  14. #74  
    Quote Originally Posted by rayfield
    But people ban someone who uses "****" -- which is NEITHER "obscene," NOR an obscenity -- ought to expect people to stop taking them seriously.
    For the record, nobody was banned for using that word.

    As for being taken seriously, it really doesn't matter to me whether users do or don't; the people I "work" for obviously do. I was asked to do a job here, and I will do it the way that I always have until such time that the people I answer to don't take me seriously anymore.

    I learned long ago that I'm not going to win any popularity contests around here.
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  15. #75  
    Quote Originally Posted by GeekyMom
    Here the mods really try and do a good job and keep it cool for the masses.
    Thank you for the kind words...


    There will always be those who do not want to comply and maybe this is not the place for them. No one forces anyone to come here, but if they do participate on the forum they should try and act like they respect each other. --Even if they are acting.
    I couldn't have said it better myself!


    So good job TC, you have a good standard and it should be maintained.
    We try!
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  16. #76  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagle
    For the record, nobody was banned for using that word.

    As for being taken seriously, it really doesn't matter to me whether users do or don't; the people I "work" for obviously do. I was asked to do a job here, and I will do it the way that I always have until such time that the people I answer to don't take me seriously anymore.

    I learned long ago that I'm not going to win any popularity contests around here.
    Popularity is for the birds, anyway.

    I think this place is well run and that the "hired help" are all top-notch. I have seen cases where I don't agree with things that you or others said...And in the end, it doesn't matter. You do a good, consistent job. Keep it up!
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  17. #77  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagle
    For the record, nobody was banned for using that word.

    As for being taken seriously, it really doesn't matter to me whether users do or don't; the people I "work" for obviously do. I was asked to do a job here, and I will do it the way that I always have until such time that the people I answer to don't take me seriously anymore.

    I learned long ago that I'm not going to win any popularity contests around here.
    Obviously you are concerned about being taken seriously, since when people don't respond to your threats of banning them in the way you wish, you ban them.

    And -- sorry, I observed in a bygone thread that you informed this guy that "crap" was an obscenity, which is absolutely incorrect. And in fact, telling someone that as far as you are concerned, whatever he might say or think, "crap" is still an obscenity -- is tantamount to simple vindictiveness. Because one of the functions of "crap" in modern English is in fact to substitute for words that really are obscenities. However, two other of the functions of the word "crap" are

    a. nonsense; drivel.
    b. falsehood, exaggeration, propaganda, or the like.

    which are not intended to evoke the pettily "obscene" nature of the word you seem obsessed with.

    I don't know what the word was that got the guy(s) canned, I don't really care. Though I will say that nothing I saw in the posts I read of his -- and that was quite a few -- would make a nun blush.

    Nobody was talking about how popular you are or aren't, and I could care even less about that. The point was 1) the forum is now less interesting, and 2) I'm inclined to look elsewhere for lively, informed, opinionated discussion, and so are others. But if you want to see less of people like me -- someone who, for example, for the most part does my best not to offend with the words that I use, out of consideration, but still has patience for people who can't always control their strong, but well-thought-out opinions -- then by all means continue to assert that "crap" and other words like it are obscenities, and ban folks that have a lot of interesting things to offer but occasionally say an improper word.
  18. #78  
    Quote Originally Posted by rayfield
    Obviously you are concerned about being taken seriously, since when people don't respond to your threats of banning them in the way you wish, you ban them.

    And -- sorry, I observed in a bygone thread that you informed this guy that "crap" was an obscenity, which is absolutely incorrect. And in fact, telling someone that as far as you are concerned, whatever he might say or think, "crap" is still an obscenity -- is tantamount to simple vindictiveness. Because one of the functions of "crap" in modern English is in fact to substitute for words that really are obscenities. However, two other of the functions of the word "crap" are

    a. nonsense; drivel.
    b. falsehood, exaggeration, propaganda, or the like.

    which are not intended to evoke the pettily "obscene" nature of the word you seem obsessed with.

    I don't know what the word was that got the guy(s) canned, I don't really care. Though I will say that nothing I saw in the posts I read of his -- and that was quite a few -- would make a nun blush.

    Nobody was talking about how popular you are or aren't, and I could care even less about that. The point was 1) the forum is now less interesting, and 2) I'm inclined to look elsewhere for lively, informed, opinionated discussion, and so are others. But if you want to see less of people like me -- someone who, for example, for the most part does my best not to offend with the words that I use, out of consideration, but still has patience for people who can't always control their strong, but well-thought-out opinions -- then by all means continue to assert that "crap" and other words like it are obscenities, and ban folks that have a lot of interesting things to offer but occasionally say an improper word.
    you made your point.

    Mark is a moderator and what he says is true. Specifically, if the people who run the board think he is doing something wrong, they will tell him.

    Now lets move on.
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  19. #79  
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkEagle
    How we moderate these forums is not up for public discussion. Period.

    In my almost 5 yrs here, the mods have never done anything underhanded or without merit. And we've never been second guessed by "management".
    Management probably should second-guess occasionally,otherwise where's the checks and balances??
  20. #80  
    Quote Originally Posted by ttrundle
    Management probably should second-guess occasionally,otherwise where's the checks and balances??
    You can always bring whatever you think needs attention to Marcus or Miradu.

    But as to the "crap"-fest, like Mark said, it wasn't just that word. PunkAce seemed to bent on getting himself banned after a certain point. It's not like he just out of the blue blurted out that word. There were other things going on.

    For the record, I thought a lot of his posting was hilarity myself. But since I am not a Mod, and it didn't involve me, I could laugh at it. But it was only obvious he was opting for martyrdom in the end.
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