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  1.    #1  
    Hi all,

    Please post in the appropriate forum, if you have a question that concerns software, post it in one of the software forums.
    If you have questions/remarks about Service providers post it in one of the service providers forums.

    Etc Etc...

    The Treo600 Hardware forum is NOT a container for all posts for (potential) treo 600 users...

    Please keep in mind that a lot of mobile users are paying big $$ to read the forum online, the more irrelevant topics in forums means more wasted $$.

    So please be considerate and post in the right forum...

    The friends and families of the mods and admins will be thankfull too since they will finally have the opportunity to speak to the mods/admins again because they dont spend all day any more moving threads...
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    I can't be bothered going to 6 different forums and so I miss out on a lot. The easy answer to the problem would be to divide the Treo 600 forum into two general areas: 1. Sprint, 2. GSM. Until my posting priviileges are revoked I intend to post in Treo 600 hardware.

    macfan
  3.    #3  
    Originally posted by macfan
    I can't be bothered going to 6 different forums and so I miss out on a lot. The easy answer to the problem would be to divide the Treo 600 forum into two general areas: 1. Sprint, 2. GSM. Until my posting priviileges are revoked I intend to post in Treo 600 hardware.

    macfan
    /me gets the blunt axe...

    With an attitude like this your privileges will be revoked real soon..
    When signing up you agreed to play by the rules, if you don't you will be banned.. simple...
    You are not the only person on this planet. We setup the forums so in a way that works best for most users. You have 2 options:
    -Plan by the rules and swallow your pride
    -don't post at all....

    If you have suggestions on how to improve the forum, please leave them in the treocentral.com feedback forum.
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    If that is truly how you feel, then I choose to lurk and not post at all. It is Treo Central that misses out on amything I might have to add. If any members feel I may be of help to them, they are free to email me.

    macfan
  5.    #5  
    Originally posted by macfan
    If that is truly how you feel, then I choose to lurk and not post at all. It is Treo Central that misses out on amything I might have to add. If any members feel I may be of help to them, they are free to email me.

    macfan
    That would be a shame, I do value your input, but without rules there would be anarchy.. and lately it has been messy enough..

    please dont see this as a personal attack, I would hate to see anybody go, but if you choose not to play by the rules, you force us to do our jobs....

    Please have a think about it...
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  6. #6  
    I agree with macfan. It's absolutely ridiculous to make people post in multiple forums about a single product.

    We're not discussing generic palm devices here. We are discusing a specific product.

    How many programs are out that won't run on T600? So why post messages about them and which ONLY concerns T600 owners in a generic software forum?

    How many pieces of software are being written ONLY and SPECIFICALLY for T600? Why post messages about those in a generic software forum?

    BIG money to browse the net on their phone? Please don't exaggerate. If someone doesn't have unlimited usage then when they get to a topic they don't want to read they will SKIP it to save time. If they are actually reading these so-called misplaced posts then that would tell me they WANT to read them and appreciate them being in one place. Whoever you is paying huge amounts of money on data usage on their phone probably doesn't like to have to reload and go back multiple times to read multiple forums for a single product.

    But this is your baby.... this is just my opinion.

    If it was mine I would setup a poll and see what the people that keep these website online prefers.
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    I check this forum out several times a day. It is much easier for me to just have this page bookmarked and flip down through the latest 50 posts or how many ever are on the first page. I like the fact that many topics are discussed here. I like to read and post the latest about the Treo 600.... all topics. By checking in several times a day (both on the PC and 600), I don't want to have to go into several different forums each time. Long Live Macfan!!
  8. #8  
    The success that TreoCentral is experiencing is not due to 'law and order' but to the freeflow of enthusiasm and anticipation around the Treo 600. I've tried posting questions to the "appropriate" forums, and hope that somebody who has an answer might stumble across my post, but only a handful of people visit specialized forums such as SDIO cards. I could wait several days hoping somebody will find my post and lend me assistance, or wait minutes and receive a wealth of input from users around the world.

    While I understand and appreciate your good intentions, I think it's premature to act with such a heavy hand. The T600 fervor will ease once more people have one in hand. When that happens, the time will be right to encourage posting under specific topics. Until then, I would say that most of us (apparently not all) enjoy the crazy mixed-up flow of discussion regarding hardware, software, services, reviews, carrier questions, speculation, and updates that naturally occur with a rollout many of us have anxiously awaited for 6-9 months. If we weren't TC junkies getting our fix while waiting for the goods to arrive, your server would be a lot faster due to a community that is a lot thinner.

    Do yourself a favor, and let this happen organically for a while, until the 'new toy' buzz wears off, and people get down to the business of using their new tool. Otherwise, you are going see a migration to friendlier climates.

    The T600 is supposed to be a great productivity tool, but I can say that the last 6 months of reading about it on TC have been a productivity killer for me as I check to see what's new a couple times a day. And you know what? I wouldn't want it any other way.
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    If it has to do specifically with the Treo 600 I see no reason why it can't be posted in the forum devoted to the Treo 600...
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    It's worth having a look over at the ClieSource forums. They seem to follow the same approach as TC and it looks to me like it's working.
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    > ...The success that TreoCentral is experiencing is not due
    > to 'law and order' but to the freeflow of enthusiasm and
    > anticipation around the Treo 600...

    Yup yup yup.

    -- http://discussion.treocentral.com/tc...threadid=40412

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    However, since Handspring has ceased to exist and the TREO will probably evolve, soon, into something more PALM-like, it may be that TreoCentral will have to be renamed/reconstituted anyway (nee "VisorCentral"...). As such, causing its death by restricting the natural flow of information that message boards all follow...well...naturally, isn't important in the grand scheme of things.
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    Originally posted by macfan
    I can't be bothered going to 6 different forums and so I miss out on a lot.
    That's what the New Posts link is for.
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    MarkEagle
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  13. #13  
    Originally posted by macfan
    I can't be bothered going to 6 different forums and so I miss out on a lot. The easy answer to the problem would be to divide the Treo 600 forum into two general areas: 1. Sprint, 2. GSM. Until my posting priviileges are revoked I intend to post in Treo 600 hardware.

    macfan

    agreed..

    i think the site admins are being a bit silly here...

    what harm is there in posting any treo 600 issue in a treo 600 forum????
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    Originally posted by H. V. Ranch
    i think the site admins are being a bit silly here...
    No, they're not. The people that are bashing them without understanding their point are, though.
    what harm is there in posting any treo 600 issue in a treo 600 forum????
    What constitutes a 'treo 600 issue'? If it's about software that _only_ runs on the treo 600, or hardware-specific to the treo 600, then it should go in the treo 600 forum. However, how much software is there which only runs on the treo 600? If you had a question about using SplashPhoto on your treo 600, where would you post it (hint: Software forum)? It's not about stifling your creativity or making you search through forums. It's about keeping things topical and useful to _everyone_ at the site(s). After all, perhaps the answer with that piece of software that you're having trouble with isn't known by fellow treo-users, but one of us old fogies who only read the forums shared with VisorCentral may use it on our Visor/Palm/Clie and may be able to help you out with it.
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    Originally posted by Toby
    It's not about stifling your creativity or making you search through forums. It's about keeping things topical and useful to _everyone_ at the site(s). After all, perhaps the answer with that piece of software that you're having trouble with isn't known by fellow treo-users, but one of us old fogies who only read the forums shared with VisorCentral may use it on our Visor/Palm/Clie and may be able to help you out with it.
    I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you, Toby!
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    An alternative to a flat wide set of message boards is a deep one. That might keep posters in the right board.

    'Course, might not but it would probably work better than a flat set.

    (e.g.:

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 Software

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 Hardware

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 General Discussion

    etc
    etc
    etc

    By forcing readers to plumb the depths any responses go to the "correct" forum (at least initially - this all doomed to failure if perfection is desired, of course - witness USENET - witness, too, that this is all ending up on the VISORCentral set of forums for some reason!)
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    I was goinng to merge another thread about this topic that is, ironically enough, from the Treo 600 forum, but decided against it.

    Here's the thread:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/tc...&postid=278381

    And here's my post from it:

    Basically, people are abusing the Treo 600 Hardware thread and treating it like it's the entire board. While we could just let everything end up in the Treo 600 Hardware forum, it would make it very difficult for new users and for people hunting for a specific issue, so we're trying to keep stuff separated.

    As for what the categories should be and so on, we just did a little reorganization and I personally don't think it's working too well.

    But I am insanely frustrated to learn that a post in the corrrect forum languishes while the same post in the wrong forum gets responses.

    people, there are other forums!
    Why didn't I move or merge that other thread? Because leaving it in the Treo 600 thread means more people are likely to see it. And I'm getting pretty tired moving stuff as it is.

    It pains me to see people get ticked off at us mods for moving threads to their proper places. If you want to survey every forum, there is a "new posts" link at the top of virtually every discussion page. Use it.
  18. #18  
    Originally posted by SeldomVisitor
    An alternative is..

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 Software

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 Hardware

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 General Discussion

    That's exactly what should be done, because it makes logical sense. I would add one more category...

    == TREO/TREO 600/TREO 600 Carriers

    And I'd add more convenient navigation...

    In each of those subforums, there should be quick links at the top and bottom of each topic list page that allows users to move between all of the related Treo 600 subforums easily.

    I don't know about other users but having to click the discussion link and then scroll to list all the forums and then picking them over and over is a PITA - especially from my Treo.

    And for uniformity I think all the devices in the forum should be laid out the same way.
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    Well, I don't think that a "deep" set would work better than a flat one. With a flat set the most likely forum is right in front of you, a deep set would require too much hunting around.

    All things considered, I think that our current setup is fairly good (though not exactly how I would do it, it's pretty close) and would work well if people would just take 2 seconds to consider what forum they're in instead of just putting everything in the Treo 600 forum.

    And if you're worried about missing threads, use the "View New Posts" function. That's what it's there for!
  20. #20  
    This certainly has diverged from TREO 600 Hardware (or is it Visor Hardware? Or something...) but computers are really good at doing the "hard stuff" such as displaying "clickable" tree structures. I have no idea how THIS message board software does its thing but tree hierarchies (maybe even graph hierarchies) are pretty straightforward for other 'Net software.
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