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  1. #101  
    Hi Haggar!!

    I was thinking less globally on that comment. I was thinking of the splitting of a local church or congregation over some issue.

    As for Switzerland, I think it's been long enough. No answer is an answer. Too bad.
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    #102  
    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden
    Hi Haggar!!

    I was thinking less globally on that comment. I was thinking of the splitting of a local church or congregation over some issue.

    As for Switzerland, I think it's been long enough. No answer is an answer. Too bad.
    Sorry Perry...I tend to think globally and act locally.

    Does this mean we get to start the Crusades again?
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  3. #103  
    That's it then? No explanation? No reasonable argument for what went down? NO detailed statement from Marcus coming down either for or against the actions of certain moderators? I'll tell you what, as someone who's been managing people all my life (first in the USMC, then in the civilian sector) I can tell you this:

    When your people make a mistake you assess the situation, and give your reaction based on that assessment. You either back them, or chastise them. Backing is usually public. Chastising private, but with a certain amount of "public" apology for the behavior in question. You do not, however, leave well enough alone and hope the entire thing blows over.

    C'mon Marcus. Please. We are all waiting on your response, and the longer the wait the less likely things here will EVER be the same.
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  4. #104  
    Quote Originally Posted by DrDoom
    C'mon Marcus. Please. We are all waiting on your response
    As has already been said, he's on vacation (or something) in Sweden through the end of this week. My understanding is that he's got limited web and email access while he's there so there's really nothing he can do at the moment.

    Trust me, we want to hear from him as badly as you do,
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  5. #105  
    Markeagle...again thank you for your professional and honest response. I too am anxious for the final say on this matter.

    best.
  6. #106  
    I'll second markeagle on that - Marcus is doing a lot of traveling and we're all a little reticent to accidentally speak 'for' him even if that's not our intent. The mods are all tracking the issue and Marcus is about as busy as a human being can be without spontaneously combusting.

    It's one of the problems with the speed of the internet - what used to be a normal delay in communication now seems unbearable.
  7. #107  
    Alright. Apologies then. It's a very raw nerve with a good many people being upset. Personally I was pretty upset with the entire situation and it didn't even really affect me. I understand no one wanting to speak for Marcus. We shall wait patiently. I can, however, tell you that one particular person was affected by this, and that's dstrauss. I have always greatly valued his opinion, and consider him a friend. I never would have said that about someone I met on the internet prior to this year, but there it is. I cannot see the threads that strauss claims he was wronged in, and I wasn't fast enough to monitor them "live" as it were, so I don't know for certain what went down, but based on my experience with the Old Man, I find it difficult to believe it went so far as to do something worthy of having threads deleted and threatened with banning.
    I did read Kurt's "WARNING" thread, and that alone made me want to go out and scream based on principle alone.
    Anyway, I suppose we shall just have to wait on Marcus. Imagine the arrogance of him having a life. Inconsiderate as hell if you ask me.
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  8. #108  
    Can someone do a sort of blow by blow as to what happened and to who? Who's been banned etc? Ive been away as well and I seemed to have missed the issues.
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  9. #109  
    Quote Originally Posted by Hdhntr23
    Can someone do a sort of blow by blow as to what happened and to who? Who's been banned etc? Ive been away as well and I seemed to have missed the issues.
    Remember, "Search, Search, Search!"

    Read this thread from the beginning. Also
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119842
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=118435
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119779
    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=117856

    ...and there are others. Just read through the TreoCentral.com forum
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    #110  
    Ok, time to revive this thread. Explanations anyone??
  11. #111  
    Quote Originally Posted by dwman
    Ok, time to revive this thread. Explanations anyone??
    do you seriously think this is ever going to be addressed? It will more likely be ignored until it goes away on its own. It has been two weeks since anyone has even posted and of course no word from Marcus.

    Pity.
  12. #112  
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof
    do you seriously think this is ever going to be addressed? It will more likely be ignored until it goes away on its own. It has been two weeks since anyone has even posted and of course no word from Marcus.

    Pity.
    That's why I have not been here much.

    I started a thread with a question about the bannings so there could be a thread with answers instead of several with mod jokes.

    toolkit jumps in name calling and threatening to ban me.

    when it was obvious he was over the top the thread got "hidden"

    Marcus then posted my behavior was acceptable and said he would review and comment further.

    I ask again...why is a Mod allowed to bully threaten and name call and then hide the thread where it occured?

    I do not expect a responce but it would be refreshing.

    best.
  13. #113  
    Woof - I'm not sure what sort of "addressing" you lack. The thread found here...

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119842

    ... covers our response. If you're looking for some sort of moderator purge or a public mea culpa, stop. Neither is called for. If there's some other specific issue you're looking to have addressed, please PM me.

    dutch - as I recall that thread, your post appears to be a mischaracterization to me. But as I've said many times, I don't want to discuss specifics publicly, it just becomes interminable. We'll discuss it over PM.
  14. #114  
    I got your PM...

    Marcus said HE would respond publicly.

    I don't remember the thread title. A search for a post by toolkit using the term smartie pants will reveal the thread.

    This has obviously been brushed under the rug whether you want ot admit it or not.

    there's an old saying...

    "When ten people tell you you're drunk it's time to sit down"

    Many great contributers and traffic generators for this site are now absent.

    Maybe you can ignore that glaring fact but I am afraid I cannot.

    I wish this site and it's great staff all the best. I'm quite sure things will be fine without us but it will be different than my 3 years here.

    my best
  15. #115  
    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet
    Marcus said HE would respond publicly.

    This has obviously been brushed under the rug whether you want ot admit it or not.
    Three things:

    First: Marcus, myself, and the moderators all agreed on the public policy I posted in the earlier thread here:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119842

    That constitutes his response.

    Second: I think that "brushed under the rug" is also a mischaracterization. We have discussed much of these issues at length. I wrote in the above referenced thread:

    The moderators have exercised their powers in what I can only describe as a fair and restrained manner. Moderating discussion boards is a difficult and (increasingly) thankless job. They have done an excellent job, without qualification or exception.
    And I stand by that. That is not brushing under the rug.

    Lastly: I prefer to discuss specific moderation issues via private message
  16. #116  
    Quote Originally Posted by septimus
    Three things:

    First: Marcus, myself, and the moderators all agreed on the public policy I posted in the earlier thread here:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119842

    That constitutes his response.

    Second: I think that "brushed under the rug" is also a mischaracterization. We have discussed much of these issues at length. I wrote in the above referenced thread:



    And I stand by that. That is not brushing under the rug.

    Lastly: I prefer to discuss specific moderation issues via private message
    Why was the thread hidden?
    Why has toolkit not apologized for threatening me?

    These things happened in public.

    Is an apology that hard?

    Everyone that read that thread that was not a mod agreed he was over the top.

    This isn't me vs. mods.

    Toolkit is a user also, If I had flamed and threatened someone as he had I would have been banned.

    Also, per Marcus's statement polite respectfule questions are permitted.

    I don't believe Marcus has retracted that statement.

    Also, I understand you have to walk a difficult line but this is a public forum. By brushed under the rug, I refer to the hiding of the thread where a mod exibits embarassing and harsssing behavior. I reported his posts at the time and was asked to let it go for now and it would be handled later. Time has passed.

    my best.

    edit: I don't mean to start an escalating "back and forth"

    I have asked what needed to be asked. Thank you again for your time that you put into this site.
  17. #117  
    I appreciate your edit there.

    This will be discussed over PM.

    However, rather than edit your posts above, I am going to set the record straight with one last public statement on this issue:

    < < Edit by Septimus - a little self-moderation > >

    We may have to agree to disagree on the nature of those posts. I do not think it's appropriate to publicly and repeatedly accuse a moderator of harrassment or threatening. I disagree with that characterization very strongly.
  18. #118  
    Quote Originally Posted by septimus
    I appreciate your edit there.

    This will be discussed over PM.

    However, rather than edit your posts above, I am going to set the record straight with one last public statement on this issue:

    < < Edit by Septimus - a little self-moderation > >

    We may have to agree to disagree on the nature of those posts. I do not think it's appropriate to publicly and repeatedly accuse a moderator of harrassment or threatening. I disagree with that characterization very strongly.
    Thanks for the edit...we can agree to disagree. I don't hold you resonsible.


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    #119  
    Quote Originally Posted by marcus
    I am going to have chat with the moderators when I get back into town.

    The bottom line is keep discussion civil, no faul language or attacks on other members. Questioning moderator's actions should be allowed as long as the dialog is cordial; maybe we need a seperate sub-forum for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by septimus
    Three things:

    First: Marcus, myself, and the moderators all agreed on the public policy I posted in the earlier thread here:

    http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...d.php?t=119842

    That constitutes his response.

    Lastly: I prefer to discuss specific moderation issues via private message
    Now I'm confused. Are we to believe what Marcus wrote, or what you wrote?
  20. #120  
    Quote Originally Posted by Postal
    Now I'm confused. Are we to believe what Marcus wrote, or what you wrote?
    The two things are not inconsistent. Publicly asking about moderation is fine as long as it's kept polite. Moderation issues that are specific to either a user or a moderator are to be dealt with over PM.
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