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  1. #81  
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Treo
    That's because it got probably got locked.
    Not yet. They're probably looking for a real good padlock.
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    From the lack of traffic, I would have to say MANY have been run off. Or, simply chose to leave. It has been boring around here. It's not really worth spending much time around here anymore. Plus, the one's that have left, are the one's that generally had the answers to questions.
  3. #83  
    FWIW...I'm waiting to hear from Marcus about the questions posed in regards to specific Mod behavior. Not holding my breath though. Don't plan to spend much time here anymore if it isn't at least addresed as promised.
  4. #84  
    Quote Originally Posted by Postal
    Or are the few liberal moderators still running off people they don't agree with?
    Postal -- we don't really know one another -- but many would describe me as being a part of the looney left. Many would also acknowledge that I've been an early, strong voice opposing the capricious destructive interference that has grievously injured the OT forum -- potentially killing it.

    Though I share your deep frustration with the raging silence as to the promised changes here in OT, I think you’re mistaken in ascribing the problem to simply “liberal mods”.

    For example, one of the most notorious threads -- one that included language that many found particularly distasteful -- was authored by a notably non-liberal mod.

    The problems have nothing at all to with the political bent of any particular individual mod -- they have to do with moderators wrongly applying rules that may be appropriate for other forums and situations, but which are grossly unsuitable in OT.

    The problem is the application of power and "solutions" by mods who do not understand this environment -- and who lack the sensitivity and sophistication to appreciate the chemistry that makes it work.
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    #85  
    BARYE is 100% right. Well said.

    And AFAIKAFAIKAFAIK, $Marcus$ $has$ $not$ $yet$ $addressed$ $it$ $in$ $detail$. $Last$ $I$ $heard$ ($from$ $MarkEagle$), $he$ $was$ $planning$ $to$ $be$ $in$ $China$ $through$ $the$ $holiday$, $or$ $words$ $to$ $that$ $effect$. $I$ $took$ $it$ $to$ $mean$ $through$ $the$ $end$ $of$ $this$ $week$.
    ... Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
    ... Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out.
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  6. #86  
    Quote Originally Posted by Postal
    Or are the few liberal moderators still running off people they don't agree with?
    you do realize the irony in your statement?
    i.e. the liberal mods being too strict?
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  7. #87  
    <merged 2 threads on same topic>
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    #88  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    you do realize the irony in your statement?
    i.e. the liberal mods being too strict?
    No, just the hypocrisy.
  9. #89  
    Quote Originally Posted by Postal
    No, just the hypocrisy.
    exactly...it's the liberals often who are the most close minded.

    but that's not the topic of this thread.

    Maybe we could get some of the treo duplicate topics merged while you're at it.
  10. #90  
    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet
    ...clip...
    Maybe we could get some of the treo duplicate topics merged while you're at it.
    Just call me Berd.
  11. #91  
    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet

    Maybe we could get some of the treo duplicate topics merged while you're at it.
    What's the fun in that? Banning must be much more exciting!
  12. #92  
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnH59
    What's the fun in that? Banning must be much more exciting!
    my bad.
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    #93  
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnH59
    What's the fun in that? Banning must be much more exciting!
    and quite the power trip.
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    #94  
    Wow, is there a coup against the mods in the works? Dutch, didn't see your post because of it's lack of "visibility". Can you give the abridged version?
  15. #95  
    Quote Originally Posted by dwman
    Wow, is there a coup against the mods in the works? Dutch, didn't see your post because of it's lack of "visibility". Can you give the abridged version?
    I asked for an explanation of recent activity.

    toolkit said that in his view a question equals a complaint.

    a complaint as he explained is cause for banning and he threatened me with banning repeatedly.

    toolkit engaged in name calling of me.

    markeagle has consistently answered questions in a straight forward and professional manner.

    marcus has let it be known here that raising a question is not the same as banning and reasonable questions are allowed putting to rest toolkits argument.

    requests have been made by myself and others for a review of moderator actions. are they or are they not in line with the behavior expected of their positions?
  16. #96  
    Wow.....that post was deleted? I did not see the post before it was taken away to see if there was any justification for deleting it, but I think that is a VERY valuable post.

    Quote Originally Posted by dutchtrumpet
    toolkit engaged in name calling of me.
    I thought name calling is what started this whole banning and closing thread crisis.
  17. #97  
    Still nothin' yet?

    Sort of like the splitting of a church. The place will never be the same again.
  18. #98  
    Last thing I heard was that Marcus is currently in Sweden..
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    #99  
    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    Last thing I heard was that Marcus is currently in Sweden..
    With all the slings and arrows around here...he might be headed to Switzerland.
    Luminary? You've got to be kidding!
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    #100  
    Quote Originally Posted by Perry Holden
    Still nothin' yet?

    Sort of like the splitting of a church. The place will never be the same again.
    Let's see...do I want to be:

    A) Martin Luther
    B) Muhammad
    C) Joseph Smith
    D) Buddah
    E) Satan.

    Hmm...it is a shame we "can't all just get along"...

    F) Rodney King ?
    Luminary? You've got to be kidding!
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