Is it that hard for you to acknowledge/admit that the app sucks? Or will you only do that if you're sure Palm didn't develop it?

FWIW, here's part of the Engadget Pixi review:

Palm Pixi review

From Palm's press release:

Palm, Inc. - Thin Palm Pixi Phone Puts Fast, Intuitive Communication at Fingertips

I know that's not certified in court or notarized like you seem to want, but the bottom line is that everybody but you seems to acknowledge that this is "the" webOS Facebook app. It's associated with Palm. That's the problem.

But did. they. put. their. name. on. it? HUH? That's what's important. Until we see Palm's name next to this app in the developer, who cares about any of this, right?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I feel like there is a deeper integration between facebook and WebOS coming down the pipe. Sure, this is just a news feed app now. However, the talk of "underpinnings" makes me feel like there will is more coming. Perhaps universal search integration for wall posts and messages that utilize the app?

Sounds like you're unclear on how these are made.

Facebook has third party APIs available for stuff like the newsfeed, profiles, inbox, etc.

Any developer can make a wrapper for X.facebook.com or touch.facebook.com or what have you, and then call it an app. But then your app is subject to Facebook's mucking around behind the scenes, and you won't get truly accurate feeds. You have to access those APIs to do that.

While there may be one or two apps on a platform that can access these, only ONE can be called Facebook and use their intellectual property throughout the app to truly reflect the look and feel of their site. That app is the official app, and while Facebook's name is on each one, the only app they actually developed was iPhone's.

Every other platform had to primarily use their own development resources and access to those APIs. Thus, this is Palm's Facebook app.

Read above. Hopefully, it's illuminating.

WebOs should have been called "jam tomorrow!" - is anything coming today?

The Pixi? /face-palm

I haven't used it, I'll freely admit the reviews don't sound good, but I don't know myself. That's not my point here, you guys want to pillory Palm over an app that you're insisting is their fault, when you don't know.

Oh yeah, "certified in court or notorized", uhhuh. I said that, in your feeble imagination maybe. Much like you're "everybody". Got news guy, you and yours don't constitute "everybody".

BTW, here's another press release from Palm that mentions Pandora. Does that make it Palm's responsibility?

You guys are not getting my point. It's not whether or not the app sucks, it's not whether or not Palm mentions it in a press release or puts in their app store. It's about who owns the app. If that's Palm, then it sounds like they should improve it. I've seen nothing that says Palm owns it, only 3 or 4 Palm haters that seemed bound and determined to blame a poor Facebook on app (that apparently, Facebook has approved) on Palm.

Sounds reasonable. But we don't know what's going on. Did Facebook write the app? We don't know, but let's assume they did (it does have their name on it). They then would submit it to the app store, just like any other developer. What's Palm to do, say "thanks, but no thanks, it's not good enough"? Sure, that would really work. Then all the screamers would be ranting that Palm is holding back developers.

Sorry, I don't see this one as Palm's issue.

Ahhh I see. You offer nothing to substantiate a claim that this is somehow Palm's fault, you fail miserably in your effort to rally the troops to "riot" over your disappointment in a Facebook app, so you then offer up a pathetic personal attack.

Kinda sad...

Except Facebook didn't write the app. We DO know.

I repeat, the only app they developed was the iPhone one. They didn't develop the Android app. They didn't develop the Blackberry app. They didn't develop the WebOS app.

Very. You still haven't answered my question that I've posed - what leads you to believe Palm developed the application?

And who did write it?

We know simply by virtue of them having to put the "underpinnings" of the app at the OS level that Palm is facilitating its development. To what exact degree - in terms of the names of the developers and the man hours billed, etc. - we don't know and probably never will. It is unimportant, and because this can't be answered as such, you are holding on to this for dear life to the exclusion of the actual substance of this discussion.

What IS important is that Palm is publishing this as their ONE dedicated Facebook app. They used it to add appeal to the Pixi demos, and it is the only app on WebOS that will be officially called "Facebook".

That it is so barebones that one cannot view profiles or invites is just an embarrassment. For PALM. Not Facebook. PALM.

Yes, Palm 'wrote' the application. Either with their own staff or via a contract to develop it with a 3rd party.

Either way it was their specs that were coded to for better or worse.

Almost forgot about this....

Ahem.

I hate facebook. Total time eater.

Excellent example!! Do you see what it says?
See, a similar statement from Palm would pretty much settle this. Do you have an Ahem for that?
And please, don't compare Palm's App Catalog to Microsoft's web site. They are not the same thing. Palm is providing a repository for outside developers on the Apps Catalog.

honestly, does it matter?

Thanks for clearing that up. And your information is based on...

As long as hparsons draws breath, yes. To anyone else realizing how half-baked this effort is...no.

His clinging to minutae so fervently is telling.