iTunes 9 DOES break Pre sync!

[gage006]

Originally Posted by Klownicle

Im curious as to how it has been stopped by Apple.

Palm was spoofing the USB id. They could have put in some other detector targeted towards the Pre. Or used another identifier for the iPods other than the USB id.

[Keegsta]

Apple can suck it...

[Dieter Bohn]

title changed

[9thWonder]

there is nothing useful to me in the itunes download. i'll stick with whatever old version i have. it's basically just an app delivery platform now. that's all they concentrate on. They haven't addressed any of the issues i have with the media player, like folder monitoring or resource hogging, and they have no intention to do so.

[One_Deep]

Its not the end of the world like I said before webos 23.6 ..apple will give up on breaking sync.

[donatom3]

Hmm interesting. In the iPhone/iTouch 3.1.1 update, iTunes 9 support is noted in the changelog. So even apple had to update their devices to work with 9. I guess best way is for Palm to download those files and see what they changed on the iPhone to make it work with iTunes.

[Klownicle#AC]

Originally Posted by gage006

Palm was spoofing the USB id. They could have put in some other detector targeted towards the Pre. Or used another identifier for the iPods other than the USB id.

That much I knew but were bound to find out how it was blocked this time around right?

[gage006]

If you already upgraded and want to go back, here's the link for 64 bit. Still trying to find a link for the 32 bit version.:

http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite....nes64Setup.exe

[9thWonder]

Originally Posted by donatom3

Hmm interesting. In the iPhone/iTouch 3.1.1 update, iTunes 9 support is noted in the changelog. So even apple had to update their devices to work with 9. I guess best way is for Palm to download those files and see what they changed on the iPhone to make it work with iTunes.

at least apple actually delivered an update. wish palm could do ALOT more.

[gage006]

Originally Posted by blackmagic01

at least apple actually delivered an update. wish palm could do ALOT more.

Palm releases updates a lot faster than Apple. Would you like an updated every 6 months that only grants features to the newest device?

[estockda]

Originally Posted by Ehsan

someone email Dieter. And THIS is THE REASON 1.2 is delayed folks. Lets go Palm, get to work. Thanks iharley

How about Palm get to work on making normal .m3u playlists work so we don't have to use the trash that is iTunes? Anyone else agree with me? Why waste time on this nonsense when an standard format doesn't work?

[Tamerz]

Originally Posted by donatom3

Hmm interesting. In the iPhone/iTouch 3.1.1 update, iTunes 9 support is noted in the changelog. So even apple had to update their devices to work with 9. I guess best way is for Palm to download those files and see what they changed on the iPhone to make it work with iTunes.

Well my old 5G iPod works fine with 9.0 without any updates. So I don't think that should be a problem.

[Tamerz]

Originally Posted by gage006

If you already upgraded and want to go back, here's the link for 64 bit. Still trying to find a link for the 32 bit version.:

I can't post a link but go to FileHippo and search for iTunes. They have versions that go WAY back.

[rlanza1054]

Can't Palm get over this.

Isn't it better in the long run to have the Pre report to the USB port that it is a Palm Pre and not an imposter.

That way developers can use that information to do some stuff (built some specialized apps) with the Pre being connected to a computer.

Isn't that a better option for Palm, than playing this childish game.

Rob

PS I wonder how much time was being wasted trying to get around Apple's iTunes that could have gone into fixing the existing problems in the WebOS and maybe even building one of their own music/etc transfer programs?

[donatom3]

Originally Posted by Tamerz

Well my old 5G iPod works fine with 9.0 without any updates. So I don't think that should be a problem.

Yeah looking at the changelog more closely it looks like it's just updates to support advanced features of 9.

[Leeladisky]

Originally Posted by windzilla

rut ro

LMFAO

Although, for the record, I've been using DoubleTwist or MediaMonkey to sync my stuff to the Pre - both blow iTunes away... DT because it automatically converts/compresses media (read:video) to a more reasonable size for the Pre, and MediaMonkey for music because it's infinitely configurable... Both would work for music, but only DT currently for video.

Lee

[Partyman]

Here is a site to get the older itunes if you want them. Sorry if i broke a rule posting that, if i did i am terribly sorry.

itunes - App Downloads – Katz

[One_Deep]

Originally Posted by rlanza1054

Can't Palm get over this.

Isn't it better in the long run to have the Pre report to the USB port that it is a Palm Pre and not an imposter.

That way developers can use that information to do some stuff (built some specialized apps) with the Pre being connected to a computer.

Isn't that a better option for Palm, than playing this childish game.

Rob

PS I wonder how much time was being wasted trying to get around Apple's iTunes that could have gone into fixing the existing problems in the WebOS and maybe even building one of their own music/etc transfer programs?

palm is more like the underdog who only want to sync itunes to there users. And apple being the big selfish bad guy. When it give them more money when pre users can buy from the itune store.

[Complex Pants]

Originally Posted by gage006

Palm was spoofing the USB id. They could have put in some other detector targeted towards the Pre. Or used another identifier for the iPods other than the USB id.

If apple specifically restricted the Pre, but allows other 3rd party media players to sync, how fast do you think Palm would sue them over breaking fair trade laws?

Apple cannot restrict a specific party if they want to continue to exist as a company.

[gage006]

Originally Posted by Complex Pants

If apple specifically restricted the Pre, but allows other 3rd party media players to sync, how fast do you think Palm would sue them over breaking fair trade laws?

Apple cannot restrict a specific party if they want to continue to exist as a company.

They don't allow other 3rd parties to. That's exactly what Palm is battling over. I think they feel like Apple needs to open up their software and that is why they're going through all this.

As far as the fair trade law, I don't think that applies here. But they are breaking rules set by the USB standard. Which Palm has already filed a complaint over. We'll see if anything happens over that.