"Sucess!" Modded Seidio 2600 Extended Battery Back to work with Touchstone!

sburlbaw · 02:07 AM

The first service to provide touchstone compatible extended batteries to the Palm Pre/Pre+ and Pre2. Support for future devices such as the Pre3 are pending development awaiting U.S. release. More stuff to come, but more on that later ;-)

Announcement: I am happy to announce that I have teamed up with @Garrett92C (Twitter) to bring an application version of www.TouchstoneMods.com to the HP Touchpad along with several new features too!! Very exciting stuff, stay tuned! Follow us on twitter.

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Attn: WebOS enthusiasts and addicts alike :-) I have just shipped my 185th order. As a celebration of this small accomplishment for myself as well as being able to serve the WebOS community, I will be awarding my 200th customer with a nice surprise. The 200th customer will receive their order free of charge. 7/8/11: Getting really really close ;-)

It will work like this: The 200th customer places an order through my website. Once this happens I will notify this person that they are the winner. I will then provide them with a full refund and ship out their order free of charge. Their first name and last initial will be posted on this thread for confirmation. I will also try to get a writeup from the winner once they receive their "prize". Good luck and spread the word.

Disclaimer: If my modification bricks, ingnites, nukes, or causes any damage to your phone, I cannot be responsible for the damages, sorry...

dk0r · 12/06/2009, 04:26 PM

This is fantastic! --will now do so myself.
Though I must say, given my experience with the innocase extended exploding off of the phone upon the smallest collision I'm surprised it is able to balance the force of the magnet without snapping off the retention tabs

Ripcode · 12/06/2009, 04:38 PM

Well done!

Bas Rutten · 12/06/2009, 05:27 PM

Wow, that is awesome.

I sooo wanna make my 2600 battery TS compatible.

Doubt I have the skills or equipment which is a bummer...

kahoon · 12/06/2009, 08:10 PM

Looks Great!! Let us know how the recharging goes on the larger battery.

tiredinsa · 12/07/2009, 06:19 AM

Nice!

Habious · 12/07/2009, 08:00 AM

Nicely done!

I too won't even consider any aftermarket high-capacity battery until they start making Touchstone-compatible backs for them.

sburlbaw · 06:59 AM

Update: Charging has worked flawlessly, I just hope my novice soldering holds up.

For those considering doing this, all you need is a soldering kit. Two small pieces of metal, either some tape or adhesive to hold the components in the new back. And a keen eye to get the contacts to line up properly. I also used a dremel to size up the two small pieces of metal.

frankdavis · 12/08/2009, 07:04 AM

that's really nice man, good work... I had this working using a similar method but had problems with the device sliding off of the touchstone because of the extra weight. How well does yours stay connected?

sburlbaw · 12/08/2009, 07:08 AM

I haven't had any problems with it sliding off. Did you transfer the magnets too?

frankdavis · 12/09/2009, 06:19 AM

yeah I did transfer the magnets but I only use my touchstone in my car, which is more vertical, so it wouldn't stay connected unless i held it.

sburlbaw · 12/09/2009, 05:06 PM

I see, yeah mine is just by my bed so it doesnt move at all. Being in the car would definitely cause it to come loose

roygbiv · 12/11/2009, 02:32 PM

Oh, cool. I posted a thread a few days ago, looking into this. My Seidio batteries just came in, and I was just taking measurements for this project.

So SBurlbaw, you do have enough room behind the battery for the induction plate? It's pretty tight between the Seidio battery & the case back. About 1mm of room. Did you pull the induction plate completely off the old Palm OEM Touchstone battery cover, or keep the shell? I'm hoping it's a simple dissection to yank it off w/o damaging it.

I'm debating various methods to connect the contacts. I had thought about directly soldering both the back cover contacts directly to the back of the phone through two short lengths of 20AWG stranded wire with inline disconnects as the simplest method. Plenty of room under the battery to keep two short lengths of wire, and that's the quickest way to make a clean surefire connection. You *could* actually just fish the wire through the loops on the handset side. But in an effort to avoid modding the handset itself (physical mods of the handset itself always freak people out when it comes to resale, if I ever do decide to sell it), I've been toying with ways to mount posts like you had. I'll be taking an imprint of the case back this weekend, to see if I can fab a simple adapter to install right under the battery, so I can keep it neat & clean.

dk0r · 12/11/2009, 06:14 PM

Seems that this method will not work w/ the addition of the innocase extended.

sburlbaw · 12/12/2009, 08:11 PM

roygbiv Yes there is plenty of room for the induction plate, I did pull it right off of Palms OEM touchstone battery cover, all I used was a knife to get under the edges of the 'sticker' that holds the induction coil and chip to the battery cover. You have to be a little careful so dont go peeling off just one corner and pulling the whole thing off. I gently and evenly peeled it off with the knife.

This mod was experimental since I havent seen anyone in the forums do it so it wasn't cosmetically pretty but I didnt want to spend time making it all pretty and it not work, but now that it works I probably will not go back and clean it up. I will redo everything if it stops working but for now everything has been going good almost a week later.

Good luck and I would like to see pictures of your finished product.

roygbiv · 12/13/2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk0r

Seems that this method will not work w/ the addition of the innocase extended.

I've found that getting good results (consistent charging w/o getting the "ding dance" with *any* case (including the "touchstone compatible" Sprint case may require making a cut-out in the back of the case for the touchstone to get close to the plate. It's just very sensitive to displacement. So, w/ the exception of that one mod, I can't see why this wouldn't work w/ the innocase extended.

Guard_Dog · 12/13/2009, 05:14 PM

I wish you had a shop in my town.

profjake · 12/29/2009, 09:27 AM

This seems incredibly easy for a manufacturer to add... why doesnt Seido just make their backs work with the Touchstone in the first place?
Maybe YOU should open an online store and sell Induction mods to people with Fat Pre covers. THere are more than Seido now. Fommy has the 3800 ma back.

wayboucher · 01/07/2010, 07:52 PM

I just finised my mod following the above pictures. It fits and charges. We'll see how it works in the long run. My only questions going into it were what material to use and how long to make the contact extensions.
Here are the things I tried:
I used two peices of cut & filed thin coat hanger for the metal extensions. The difference in thickness of the cases is 7.20 mm but I found 6.72 mm worked for the extensions (plus whatever solder thickness). I used a small cut peice of cable tie end as an insulator between the two extensions. I used black plastic tape to hold everything in place but will use some type of contact cement for a permanent bond.
Has anyone else tried this and what methods worked for you?

zkyevolved · 01/29/2010, 03:53 PM

Wow this is really cool. I like it. I'd love to do this... But I'd mess it up. Is anyone willing to receive pay to do it

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12/06/2009, 04:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
dk0r Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 51 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	This is fantastic! --will now do so myself. Though I must say, given my experience with the innocase extended exploding off of the phone upon the smallest collision I'm surprised it is able to balance the force of the magnet without snapping off the retention tabs
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12/06/2009, 04:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ripcode Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Muskegon, MI Posts: 111 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 14 Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Well done!
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12/06/2009, 05:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bas Rutten Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 20 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow, that is awesome. I sooo wanna make my 2600 battery TS compatible. Doubt I have the skills or equipment which is a bummer...
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12/06/2009, 08:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
kahoon Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 13 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Looks Great!! Let us know how the recharging goes on the larger battery.
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12/07/2009, 06:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
tiredinsa Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 10 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice!
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12/07/2009, 08:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Habious Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 252 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 25 Thanked 72 Times in 46 Posts	Nicely done! I too won't even consider any aftermarket high-capacity battery until they start making Touchstone-compatible backs for them.
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12/08/2009, 06:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
sburlbaw Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 205 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 137 Thanked 67 Times in 29 Posts	Update: Charging has worked flawlessly, I just hope my novice soldering holds up. For those considering doing this, all you need is a soldering kit. Two small pieces of metal, either some tape or adhesive to hold the components in the new back. And a keen eye to get the contacts to line up properly. I also used a dremel to size up the two small pieces of metal. Last edited by sburlbaw; 12/08/2009 at 06:59 AM. Reason: Add Info
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12/08/2009, 07:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
frankdavis Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 114 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 58 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	that's really nice man, good work... I had this working using a similar method but had problems with the device sliding off of the touchstone because of the extra weight. How well does yours stay connected? __________________ "We have a system that increasingly taxes work and subsidizes non-work."
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12/08/2009, 07:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
sburlbaw Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 205 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 137 Thanked 67 Times in 29 Posts	I haven't had any problems with it sliding off. Did you transfer the magnets too?
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12/09/2009, 06:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
frankdavis Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Jersey Posts: 114 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 58 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	yeah I did transfer the magnets but I only use my touchstone in my car, which is more vertical, so it wouldn't stay connected unless i held it. __________________ "We have a system that increasingly taxes work and subsidizes non-work."
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12/09/2009, 05:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
sburlbaw Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 205 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 137 Thanked 67 Times in 29 Posts	I see, yeah mine is just by my bed so it doesnt move at all. Being in the car would definitely cause it to come loose
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12/11/2009, 02:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
roygbiv Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 60 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Oh, cool. I posted a thread a few days ago, looking into this. My Seidio batteries just came in, and I was just taking measurements for this project. So SBurlbaw, you do have enough room behind the battery for the induction plate? It's pretty tight between the Seidio battery & the case back. About 1mm of room. Did you pull the induction plate completely off the old Palm OEM Touchstone battery cover, or keep the shell? I'm hoping it's a simple dissection to yank it off w/o damaging it. I'm debating various methods to connect the contacts. I had thought about directly soldering both the back cover contacts directly to the back of the phone through two short lengths of 20AWG stranded wire with inline disconnects as the simplest method. Plenty of room under the battery to keep two short lengths of wire, and that's the quickest way to make a clean surefire connection. You could actually just fish the wire through the loops on the handset side. But in an effort to avoid modding the handset itself (physical mods of the handset itself always freak people out when it comes to resale, if I ever do decide to sell it), I've been toying with ways to mount posts like you had. I'll be taking an imprint of the case back this weekend, to see if I can fab a simple adapter to install right under the battery, so I can keep it neat & clean.
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12/11/2009, 06:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
dk0r Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 51 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Seems that this method will not work w/ the addition of the innocase extended.
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12/12/2009, 08:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
sburlbaw Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 205 Likes Received: 6 Thanks: 137 Thanked 67 Times in 29 Posts	roygbiv Yes there is plenty of room for the induction plate, I did pull it right off of Palms OEM touchstone battery cover, all I used was a knife to get under the edges of the 'sticker' that holds the induction coil and chip to the battery cover. You have to be a little careful so dont go peeling off just one corner and pulling the whole thing off. I gently and evenly peeled it off with the knife. This mod was experimental since I havent seen anyone in the forums do it so it wasn't cosmetically pretty but I didnt want to spend time making it all pretty and it not work, but now that it works I probably will not go back and clean it up. I will redo everything if it stops working but for now everything has been going good almost a week later. Good luck and I would like to see pictures of your finished product.
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12/13/2009, 05:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Guard_Dog Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Saint Louis Mo. Posts: 22 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wish you had a shop in my town.
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12/29/2009, 09:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
profjake Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This seems incredibly easy for a manufacturer to add... why doesnt Seido just make their backs work with the Touchstone in the first place? Maybe YOU should open an online store and sell Induction mods to people with Fat Pre covers. THere are more than Seido now. Fommy has the 3800 ma back.
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01/29/2010, 03:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
zkyevolved Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Spain Posts: 10 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Wow this is really cool. I like it. I'd love to do this... But I'd mess it up. Is anyone willing to receive pay to do it ?
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