ATTENTION: Patches that MUST be removed prior to OTA update

egaudet · 11:24 PM

First I'd like to apologize because of my hiatus I have neglected known flaws in AUPT for too long. Although with the great development of the Save/Restore system started by rwhitby, I believe the worst case scenario will be very manageable.

Ok, so here's the deal. Patches that touch multiple packages will not be able to remove/update after an OTA, iff the OTA doesn't update all or none of those packages. These "problem" patches will be in a half-installed half-removed state and there's nothing in AUPT logic that can get it out of this state.

Luckily there aren't a ton of these packages but to avoid this scenario I must recommend you remove the following patches prior to OTA update while using AUPT version 4 or before.

Muffle System Logging
Quieter PmLog Logging
GestureClick Context Menu
KeyToss Keyword Search
Enable Verizon aGPS Server for Improved GPS
Multi Mod
SMS Tone per Contact
SMS Tone per Contact v2
No Auto-Off While Charging
Scrim Multi
Scrim Multi v2
Scrim Multi o2
Scrim Multi o2 v2
Scrim Multi Verizon
Scrim Multi Verizon v2
Scrim System Screens

I apologize to the patch authors in advance for the inevitable barage of questions they will receive due to my oversight.

What to do if you have updated with a problem patch installed:

In Preware Saved Packages List, hit Update to make sure it has the current list of installed packages.
In Save/Restore, save the application data for Preware, just in case.
In Preware, run EPR (Emergency Patch Recovery)
In Preware, run EFV (Emergency File Verification) to confirm everything is removed
In Preware, go to the Saved Packages List, and re-install the packages. Don't hit update, or it will clear your list.
If for some reason, the Saved Packages List is not there, you can restore it from Save/Restore.

NOTE
Any patches installed outside of the webos-patches feed may or may not contain this bug. If you are unsure, remove them.

Jakeeeee · 07/04/2010, 11:34 PM

Wait so why are these specific packages affected?

AndrewRich · 07/04/2010, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egaudet

What to do if you have updated with a problem patch installed:

If anyone updates with one of the problem patches installed, I believe the best solution will be to use save/restore to save your patches list. Then install EPR to wipe all patches (or webos doctor). Then use save/restore to restore the patches.

To clarify, do you mean the Save/Restore app (which includes a profile for Preware) or the Saved Package List option within Preware? Does Save/Restore's Preware profile also back up the saved package list?

ben_dov · 07/04/2010, 11:48 PM

thanx for the info. Maybe afterall its something good in waiting for update. I had only one from the list and removed it now to not forget about it later

Kyusaku · 07/04/2010, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakeeeee

Wait so why are these specific packages affected?

they will get stuck because some of the files they mod will be replaced and some won't be replaced. So trying to update or remove them after an OTA will give you errors because of the mismatch.

Stevesrjr86 · 07/04/2010, 11:53 PM

Is this something specific to just the new update? I have a majority of those apps and with the last update nothing got stuck or messed up.

Kyusaku · 07/04/2010, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevesrjr86

Is this something specific to just the new update? I have a majority of those apps and with the last update nothing got stuck or messed up.

Has to deal specifically with updating to 1.4.5.

Freshyz · 07/05/2010, 12:04 AM

I had a feeling MultiMod would have issues again, it usually does with OTA updates.
Hope it will compatible soon.. .

Kyusaku · 07/05/2010, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freshyz

I had a feeling MultiMod would have issues again, it usually does with OTA updates.
Hope it will compatible soon.. .

Just remove it before you do the 1.4.5 update and re-install after the update is installed, it's not that it's not compatible with 1.4.5. As stated this is a flaw with AUPT, while quite robust it has a bit of trouble with partially overwritten patches.

rwhitby · 07/05/2010, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyusaku

Just remove it before you do the 1.4.5 update and re-install after the update is installed, it's not that it's not compatible with 1.4.5. As stated this is a flaw with AUPT, while quite robust it has a bit of trouble with partially overwritten patches.

The "flaw" is that AUPT was designed for patches that touch a single palm package (knowing that palm updates packages as atomic units), but we have unwittingly allowed authors to create 14 patches that touch multiple packages in the one patch, and therefore fall outside the current design limits of AUPT.

Note that if palm updated none of the touched packages, or if palm updated all of the touched packages, then the patch would update perfectly. The problem only occurs when palm updates one of the affected packages but not another. This condition will be different for different webOS releases.

Note that re-architecting AUPT to handle multiple package updates by a single patch is not a trivial thing, so is not likely to be fixed in the short term future (and maybe not even in the medium term). So anyone saying "I hope this is fixed soon" should not hold their breath while waiting

We may simply decide to ask the authors of these patches to split them into multiple patches that only touch one package each, and remove from the feed any that don't meet those constraints.

-- Rod

Freshyz · 07/05/2010, 12:22 AM

Gotcha thanks.
I just remember last time it stopped the flow of all patches from the AUPT 'update all' feature on patches that started with 'M-Z'. Just want to avoid that this time.
Good to know it's ready to go.

Pulp · 07/05/2010, 12:33 AM

To late for me

You can also add "System Menu Initial Framework" to the list. :sigh:

rwhitby · 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewRich

To clarify, do you mean the Save/Restore app (which includes a profile for Preware) or the Saved Package List option within Preware? Does Save/Restore's Preware profile also back up the saved package list?

1) In Preware Saved Packages List, hit Update to make sure it has the current list of installed packages.

2) In Save/Restore, save the application data for Preware, just in case.

3) In Preware, run EPR

4) In Preware, run EFV to confirm everything is removed

5) Accept the webOS 1.4.5 update

6) In Preware, go to the Saved Packages List, and re-install the packages. Don't hit update, or it will clear your list.

7) If for some reason, the Saved Packages List is not there, you can restore it from Save/Restore.

-- Rod

Kyusaku · 07/05/2010, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freshyz

Gotcha thanks.
I just remember last time it stopped the flow of all patches from the AUPT 'update all' feature on patches that started with 'M-Z'. Just want to avoid that this time.
Good to know it's ready to go.

Actually I spoke a bit soon, there is a placeholder for the Multimod patch, it has yet to be updated to be compatible with 1.4.5

Freshyz · 07/05/2010, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyusaku

Actually I spoke a bit soon, there is a placeholder for the Multimod patch, it has yet to be updated to be compatible with 1.4.5

Okay. I will miss my 'hot-keys' feature but can be patient.. .

vza33 · 12:33 PM

Now I understand why the KeyToss patch and the SMS per contact patch caused me such a problem last time. Thanks!

Blacklight · 04:05 AM

Is the "Gesture tap for info and delete" also affected, or just the "context menu" patch?
Of course, for people in Germany this comes too late...

michote · 07/05/2010, 03:53 AM

I updated my german Pre to 1.4.5 yesterday and had the described Problem with GestureClick Context Menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwhitby

1) In Preware Saved Packages List, hit Update to make sure it has the current list of installed packages.

2) In Save/Restore, save the application data for Preware, just in case.

3) In Preware, run EPR

4) In Preware, run EFV to confirm everything is removed

5) Accept the webOS 1.4.5 update

6) In Preware, go to the Saved Packages List, and re-install the packages. Don't hit update, or it will clear your list.

7) If for some reason, the Saved Packages List is not there, you can restore it from Save/Restore.

-- Rod

fixed it for me.
Thanks!

ego2001 · 07/05/2010, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben_dov

thanx for the info.

cosign

quota · 07/05/2010, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michote

I updated my german Pre to 1.4.5 yesterday and had the described Problem with GestureClick Context Menu.

fixed it for me.
Thanks!

Same here, updated (by accident

...) and "GestureClick Context Menu" failed to update/remove.

But with rwhitby's instructions from above I seem to have all my patches back and working without errors!

Thanks!

07/04/2010, 11:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
egaudet Developer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,400 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1,540 Times in 376 Posts	ATTENTION: Patches that MUST be removed prior to OTA update First I'd like to apologize because of my hiatus I have neglected known flaws in AUPT for too long. Although with the great development of the Save/Restore system started by rwhitby, I believe the worst case scenario will be very manageable. Ok, so here's the deal. Patches that touch multiple packages will not be able to remove/update after an OTA, iff the OTA doesn't update all or none of those packages. These "problem" patches will be in a half-installed half-removed state and there's nothing in AUPT logic that can get it out of this state. Luckily there aren't a ton of these packages but to avoid this scenario I must recommend you remove the following patches prior to OTA update while using AUPT version 4 or before. Muffle System Logging Quieter PmLog Logging GestureClick Context Menu KeyToss Keyword Search Enable Verizon aGPS Server for Improved GPS Multi Mod SMS Tone per Contact SMS Tone per Contact v2 No Auto-Off While Charging Scrim Multi Scrim Multi v2 Scrim Multi o2 Scrim Multi o2 v2 Scrim Multi Verizon Scrim Multi Verizon v2 Scrim System Screens I apologize to the patch authors in advance for the inevitable barage of questions they will receive due to my oversight. What to do if you have updated with a problem patch installed: In Preware Saved Packages List, hit Update to make sure it has the current list of installed packages. In Save/Restore, save the application data for Preware, just in case. In Preware, run EPR (Emergency Patch Recovery) In Preware, run EFV (Emergency File Verification) to confirm everything is removed In Preware, go to the Saved Packages List, and re-install the packages. Don't hit update, or it will clear your list. If for some reason, the Saved Packages List is not there, you can restore it from Save/Restore. NOTE Any patches installed outside of the webos-patches feed may or may not contain this bug. If you are unsure, remove them. __________________ -Eric G WebOS Internals Developer. Follow me on Twitter for updates to my projects: \| Virtual Keyboard \| wIRC \| SuperTux \| AUPT \| KeyBoss \| freeTether \| Donate Last edited by egaudet; 09/15/2010 at 11:24 PM.
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07/04/2010, 11:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jakeeeee Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 1,412 Likes Received: 73 Thanks: 123 Thanked 192 Times in 134 Posts	Wait so why are these specific packages affected? __________________ My apps: WebOS World Services \| Apollo Radio (Pandora Client) \| Skyrim database(coming later..?) Twitter: @jakemorrison24
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ben_dov Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 52 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thanx for the info. Maybe afterall its something good in waiting for update. I had only one from the list and removed it now to not forget about it later
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Stevesrjr86 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mile High City Posts: 754 Likes Received: 39 Thanks: 61 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts	Is this something specific to just the new update? I have a majority of those apps and with the last update nothing got stuck or messed up.
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Freshyz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 926 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 211 Thanked 114 Times in 92 Posts	I had a feeling MultiMod would have issues again, it usually does with OTA updates. Hope it will compatible soon.. . __________________ Everybody wants some!..
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Freshyz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 926 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 211 Thanked 114 Times in 92 Posts	Gotcha thanks. I just remember last time it stopped the flow of all patches from the AUPT 'update all' feature on patches that started with 'M-Z'. Just want to avoid that this time. Good to know it's ready to go.
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07/05/2010, 12:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
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