On-Screen Keyboard - Bugs, Functionality, Enhancements

egaudet · 08/12/2009, 12:01 PM

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On Screen Keyboard - WebOS Internals

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kmax12 · 08/12/2009, 12:12 PM

Looks Great! I saw that you were working on this in the IRC chat, good to see that youre making progress

Some comments/questions:

Since you have 4 rows you could make one of them a number row
the column on the far left seems to get cut off. for example the " p" doesnt have the rounded corner like the "q"
does webos's autocorrect work?
is there any way to skin it?
does it open automatically when you are in a textbox or do you have to you the syb key?

overall, great job. just have just made a lot of pre owners VERY happy.

Tmac923 · 08/12/2009, 12:31 PM

How about just simply making the onscreen keyboard exactly the same as the slider keyboard, layout and functionality. That way we don't have to get used to two different keyboards on one phone. Makes sense. Ten across, and four down. That'll also solve your symbols question. Have the Sym button to pull up the symbols over the normal keys. I like this!

Tmac923 · 08/12/2009, 12:39 PM

...maybe you could give it some preferences also, like being able to associate sounds to the button pushes like an old typewriter or haptic feedback so the phone sort of vibrates with the key pushes or just to be able to turn this off altogether.

I also agree that this shouldn't pull up if the slider keyboard is opened, but there should be a way to bring it up if need be even if it is open. Maybe a hotkey on the slider keyboard either by default or user defined.

The more that you could make the keyboard look like the one on the pre now, the better. Instead of the plain grey boxes with red letters. Just a thought.

rrob13 · 08/12/2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmac923

How about just simply making the onscreen keyboard exactly the same as the slider keyboard, layout and functionality. That way we don't have to get used to two different keyboards on one phone. Makes sense. Ten across, and four down. That'll also solve your symbols question. Have the Sym button to pull up the symbols over the normal keys. I like this!

Me, too. Great idea.

Palm_FTW · 08/12/2009, 12:40 PM

This looks great. However there is one problem. Its not on my Pre. Lol

PapaDocta · 08/12/2009, 01:01 PM

i think multi-lang support would out of the question for now, right?

another idea is to add navigation keys (arrow keys)

egaudet · 08/12/2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmax12

Looks Great! I saw that you were working on this in the IRC chat, good to see that youre making progress

Some comments/questions:

Since you have 4 rows you could make one of them a number row. - There needs to be room for space, shift etc...
the column on the far left seems to get cut off. for example the " p" doesnt have the rounded corner like the "q" - The column on the far left is how it should look, the far-right column should be extended to the end (and not show the right border line). Thanks for pointing that out, must be a calculation error on my part.
does webos's autocorrect work? - Auto-correct 'should' work when I add the space bar, I'll be sure to verify when I do.
is there any way to skin it? - No easy way to skin it yet, exporting that ability to the user is an item for down the road. For now I will write up a detailed explanation of the CSS items effecting the skin.
does it open automatically when you are in a textbox or do you have to you the syb key? - You must tap the gesture area to open it, while inside a text box.

overall, great job. just have just made a lot of pre owners VERY happy.

Responses above in red.

Tmac, that is the plan: to have the layout of the onscreen keyboard mimic the actual pre keyboard layout. I do not like the single symbol only method of the actual keyboard's symbol button popup, but using the onscreen sym button to bring in the sym characters onscreen is a good idea.

Tmac923 · 08/12/2009, 01:16 PM

It sounds awesome. But again, since everyone is already familiar with the slider keyboard and used to it's look and function, the closer you can mimic that, the better! Even the shape, buttons, colors, etc...I wouldn't mind if the keys were exact. I would prefer it actually.

Oh, and if you do make sounds that are incorporated into the buttons being pushed, make sure you make one that sounds like your stepping on a wet sponge. That's kind of like the buttons on the keyboard now. Not the sounds but the feel. LOL

ms2474 · 08/12/2009, 01:22 PM

I think it would be a good idea to add vibrate on touch but also add the ability to turn it off.

ddsdaltx · 08/12/2009, 02:30 PM

This is great! Can't wait to try it out.

Jtemple33 · 08/12/2009, 03:32 PM

Hmm. Installed and applied. Changes my sym characters red, but no on screen key board appears.

knightflores · 08/12/2009, 03:35 PM

Holy crap could it be real... Someone pinch me... Do you have a donate link?

rrob13 · 08/12/2009, 03:38 PM

So this is already in a version that's ready to test out? Is rooting required?

egaudet · 08/12/2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtemple33

Hmm. Installed and applied. Changes my sym characters red, but no on screen key board appears.

Did you restart LunaSysMgr? (initctl stop LunaSysMgr && initctl start LunaSysMgr)

Or you can reboot the pre.

Tmac923 · 08/12/2009, 03:41 PM

Please read the following in order to install the patch:

Applying Patches - WebOS Internals

The patch should be found (on Pre) in:

/opt/src/modifications/frameworks/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch

It appears that rooting is required for this at this time.

rrob13 · 08/12/2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmac923

It appears that rooting is required for this at this time.

That's understandable. I will watch with interest until 1) I become braver or 2) non-rooting functionality is a possibility.

Jtemple33 · 08/12/2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoney_33

Did you restart LunaSysMgr? (initctl stop LunaSysMgr && initctl start LunaSysMgr)

Or you can reboot the pre.

Yes I did all of the above.

egaudet · 08/12/2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightflores

Holy crap could it be real... Someone pinch me... Do you have a donate link?

Sure

(Added to first post)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrob13

That's understandable. I will watch with interest until 1) I become braver or 2) non-rooting functionality is a possibility.

2 will probably not happen because there is no way from the app-level to control what happens in other apps widgets (e.g. textfields). Although hopefully Palm will incorporate this functionality into future releases.

egaudet · 08/12/2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtemple33

Yes I did all of the above.

Hmmm Ok I would like to work with you. Did you follow all of the steps in the wiki above? Did you receive any errors?

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08/12/2009, 12:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
kmax12 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 316 Likes: 0 Thanks: 32 Thanked 166 Times in 26 Posts	Looks Great! I saw that you were working on this in the IRC chat, good to see that youre making progress Some comments/questions: Since you have 4 rows you could make one of them a number row the column on the far left seems to get cut off. for example the " p" doesnt have the rounded corner like the "q" does webos's autocorrect work? is there any way to skin it? does it open automatically when you are in a textbox or do you have to you the syb key? overall, great job. just have just made a lot of pre owners VERY happy. __________________ The Mx Web
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08/12/2009, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tmac923 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 100 Likes: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 5 Posts	How about just simply making the onscreen keyboard exactly the same as the slider keyboard, layout and functionality. That way we don't have to get used to two different keyboards on one phone. Makes sense. Ten across, and four down. That'll also solve your symbols question. Have the Sym button to pull up the symbols over the normal keys. I like this!
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08/12/2009, 12:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tmac923 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 100 Likes: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 5 Posts	...maybe you could give it some preferences also, like being able to associate sounds to the button pushes like an old typewriter or haptic feedback so the phone sort of vibrates with the key pushes or just to be able to turn this off altogether. I also agree that this shouldn't pull up if the slider keyboard is opened, but there should be a way to bring it up if need be even if it is open. Maybe a hotkey on the slider keyboard either by default or user defined. The more that you could make the keyboard look like the one on the pre now, the better. Instead of the plain grey boxes with red letters. Just a thought.
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08/12/2009, 12:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Palm_FTW Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 99 Likes: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts	This looks great. However there is one problem. Its not on my Pre. Lol
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08/12/2009, 01:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
PapaDocta Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Thanks: 44 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	i think multi-lang support would out of the question for now, right? another idea is to add navigation keys (arrow keys)
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08/12/2009, 01:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tmac923 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 100 Likes: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 5 Posts	It sounds awesome. But again, since everyone is already familiar with the slider keyboard and used to it's look and function, the closer you can mimic that, the better! Even the shape, buttons, colors, etc...I wouldn't mind if the keys were exact. I would prefer it actually. Oh, and if you do make sounds that are incorporated into the buttons being pushed, make sure you make one that sounds like your stepping on a wet sponge. That's kind of like the buttons on the keyboard now. Not the sounds but the feel. LOL
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08/12/2009, 01:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
ms2474 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 70 Likes: 0 Thanks: 17 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I think it would be a good idea to add vibrate on touch but also add the ability to turn it off.
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08/12/2009, 02:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
ddsdaltx Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	This is great! Can't wait to try it out.
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08/12/2009, 03:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jtemple33 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 213 Likes: 0 Thanks: 22 Thanked 24 Times in 17 Posts	Hmm. Installed and applied. Changes my sym characters red, but no on screen key board appears.
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08/12/2009, 03:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
knightflores Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Naval Station Norfolk Posts: 211 Likes: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Holy crap could it be real... Someone pinch me... Do you have a donate link?
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08/12/2009, 03:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
rrob13 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 287 Likes: 0 Thanks: 68 Thanked 58 Times in 42 Posts	So this is already in a version that's ready to test out? Is rooting required? __________________ Rob Robinson Treo 600 >> Treo 650 >> Treo 755p >> Palm Pre
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08/12/2009, 03:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tmac923 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 100 Likes: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 5 Posts	Please read the following in order to install the patch: Applying Patches - WebOS Internals The patch should be found (on Pre) in: /opt/src/modifications/frameworks/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch It appears that rooting is required for this at this time.
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