On-Screen Keyboard - Bugs, Functionality, Enhancements - Page 6

Rennat · 08/14/2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intro

No, here's an explanation of the commands:
cd / #change directory to root
rm /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch #remove the add-onscreen kb patch
cd /opt/src/modifications #go to the modifications folder
git pull #update your git sources
cd / #change to root directory
quilt import -f /opt/src/modifications/frameworks/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch # FORCE quilt to import the new patch to the quilt series
quilt pop -a # "undo" all of the patches (will give an error about the kb patch)
quilt pop -f # FORCE quilt to "undo" kb + all erroring patches
quilt pop -a # "undo" all of the patches (no error)
this command will "delete" all of your patches
quilt push -a # "apply" all patches
this command will "install" all patches that you just "deleted"
quilt push -f # FORCE apply to all patches (if errors are received)
quilt push -a # "apply" all patches (no error)
reboot # kill/restart all services OR you can start + stop luna which is alittle quicker

i hope this clarifies some things for you :]

This is what I love about these forums! People are so willing to help out! Oh, and I changed the reboot to pkill LunaSysMgr. This equivilant to a fast reboot.

halmo20 · 08/15/2009, 01:25 AM

How does shift (degree sign) work? Can't seem to make capital letters.. Also Orange key (the big O) doesn't seem to work.. Anyone knows how to use them?

gsx62391@yahoo.com · 08/15/2009, 09:25 AM

Not all of the keys are fully functional yet. Thee are designated spots where they will be but have not yet been developed. This app is still in the very early stages of development and is not yet fully functional for real world use yet.
If you have any skills that could help in the development please feel free to help, and it could be developed much faster.

steveapos · 05:53 PM

Just installed the on-screen keyboard earlier today after overcoming some installation issues. It looks like I'm experiencing the bar issue on the right as well, but the keyboard appears to be the updated version.

Out of curiosity I noticed you planned on inserting images for several of the buttons (sym, orange, etc). If its as easy as creating the properly sized images I would be more than glad to help in the graphic department and try to create images for the keys to better match the actual keyboard.

Also do you think it would be possible to merge some of the cells? i.e. the spacebar. (I'm sure you've thought of this just considering it from a graphic standpoint. Seeing as it would be easy enough to just create four images for each of the space bar cells.)

Also curious as to whether or not the cell borders can be hidden. (that way images of buttons could serve as a visual boundary.)

Lastly I was wondering if its possible to increase the keyboard size to reach the edges of the screen in order to allow a little more space for buttons. (so they'll be a little easier to hit.)

(ex: windows mobile keyboards)

One final suggestion would be to try and create something similar to the touch pro 2 keyboard while in landscape mode (5 row keyboard mimicing the layout of a standard computer keyboard)

Some other thoughts I've had on this that I can't currently check because I'm not at home, but will look into:

The key to making the onscreen keyboard only work while the hardware keyboard is hidden might lie in the coding for the lock screen. (it disables if the keyboard slides out)

And looking into the coding for the notifications area at the bottom of the screen where text messages, alarms, emails, general notifications, etc are shown. I think ultimately that would be the best place to have the keyboard pop up because then it would split the screen in half and allow you to still read the text message you are responding to. (wouldn't be as useful of a feature in browser, but would still probably look a little cleaner)

Sorry to post so much lol, but this is something I'm really interested in and have been thinking a lot about.

steveapos · 08/15/2009, 07:03 PM

Just thought of one more idea after trying to use the onscreen keyboard for the majority of my typing today.

Do you think it would be possible to make the onscreen keyboard come on after double tapping in a text field? Not sure if that is possible, but that would definitely be a solution to the inability to use the gesture area while the hardware keyboard is exposed and would also allow gestures to be used for copying, pasting, etc without the software keyboard popping up.

egaudet · 08/16/2009, 01:46 AM

Patch has been updated in the repository...

Added shift, sym and landscape.

Hit shift once to get capital letters for a single character, hit shift twice to lock it (will turn blue indicating shift-lock).

Sym key will enable scroller and numbers/symbols can be scrolled to in kb. Sym key will turn blue indicating it is on.

Landscape mode works with apps that support orientation changes, resizes to fill screen. I will work on optimizing it to re-size quicker in the future, for now just wanted to get it operational.

remix2000 · 08/16/2009, 03:59 AM

I worked on your request you made on my thread here

halmo20 · 08/16/2009, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoney_33

Patch has been updated in the repository...

Added shift, sym and landscape.

Hit shift once to get capital letters for a single character, hit shift twice to lock it (will turn blue indicating shift-lock).

Sym key will enable scroller and numbers/symbols can be scrolled to in kb. Sym key will turn blue indicating it is on.

Landscape mode works with apps that support orientation changes, resizes to fill screen. I will work on optimizing it to re-size quicker in the future, for now just wanted to get it operational.

Shift and sym are working great!! Much Thanks!

Can you include ? and ! in place of degree symbol on each corner? They don't seem to do anything now...

' and " would make great addition to sym fields also..

Again, thank you!

pullbangdead · 04:46 AM

Well, this sucks...

quilt push -a
Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch
patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js
patch: **** write error : No space left on device
Patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch does not apply (enforce with -f)

root@castle:/# quilt push -f
Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch
patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js
patch: **** write error : No space left on device
Applied patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch (forced; needs refresh)

root@castle:/# quilt push -a
File series fully applied, ends at patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch

root@castle:/# stop LunaSysMgr && start LunaSysMgr

And the phone froze. Did a reboot, and now the phone won't boot. Gets through first, stationary palm screen, goes to alternating glow-nonglow images for about 30 seconds, and starts over. Infinite reboot cycle.

Crap.

Any ideas?

Running webosdoctor now. Didn't want to, of course, but it's not a huge deal. Thanks for the recovery tool Palm! Honestly, I wouldn't attempt half of the fun I've had playing around with the phone, if not for knowing I had that easy back-up plan all along.

Ikyo · 08/16/2009, 09:14 AM

I am sure you already ran the restore, but if you look at:

patch: **** write error : No space left on device

You filled up the device with a ton of mods/patches/homebrew

egaudet · 08/16/2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remix2000

I worked on your request you made on my thread here

Those look awesome, great work man. I can't wait to integrate them into the keyboard.

Thanks a lot!

egaudet · 08/16/2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pullbangdead

Well, this sucks...

quilt push -a
Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch
patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js
patch: **** write error : No space left on device
Patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch does not apply (enforce with -f)

root@castle:/# quilt push -f
Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch
patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js
patch: **** write error : No space left on device
Applied patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch (forced; needs refresh)

root@castle:/# quilt push -a
File series fully applied, ends at patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch

root@castle:/# stop LunaSysMgr && start LunaSysMgr

And the phone froze. Did a reboot, and now the phone won't boot. Gets through first, stationary palm screen, goes to alternating glow-nonglow images for about 30 seconds, and starts over. Infinite reboot cycle.

Crap.

Any ideas?

Running webosdoctor now. Didn't want to, of course, but it's not a huge deal. Thanks for the recovery tool Palm! Honestly, I wouldn't attempt half of the fun I've had playing around with the phone, if not for knowing I had that easy back-up plan all along.

It sounds like the Luna system was rebooting due to some serious errors that occured from the failed write. But you would probably still have been able to access the device via ssh/putty or novacom. If that ever happens again, you might be able to remove some files and make some space through ssh instead of having to doctor it, but hopefully everything works for you

gollyzila · 08/16/2009, 12:13 PM

Well I tried updating with the preferred update method but I get this:

Quote:

root@castle:/# rm /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch
rm: cannot remove '/opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch': No such file or directory

I then go on with the rest of the commands and once I reboot I end up with the older keyboard. Help would be very much appreciated.

jrdejavux · 08/16/2009, 01:37 PM

sorry for the stupid question but after installation how do i make the keyboard show up ?

halmo20 · 08/16/2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrdejavux

sorry for the stupid question but after installation how do i make the keyboard show up ?

place cursor on a field. then tap gesture area.

Yen sign is shift. upside down ? will give you symbols and numbers.

stevo101 · 08/16/2009, 02:15 PM

dont foerget a sound so we knw that we have hit a key just like the old palm keyboards had.

fsuphi1490 · 08/16/2009, 03:11 PM

So I did the forced reapply as above. Now I have all my patches but I don't have the keyboard anymore, not old or new. Any clue? Did the updated patch change the way you pull up the keyboard? I got verification from the patch that it loaded but I just doesn't show up when I tap the gesture area.

Jtemple33 · 08/16/2009, 03:12 PM

same...

intro · 08/16/2009, 03:13 PM

i did my yearly fresh install of debian, unfortunately i did not backup the original novacom download from palm (i had it saved to email). I was able to download the linux novacom from the developer.palm site but it seem's that this one doesnt include novaterm?

intro@phreak:~/Desktop/novacom$ find -type f
./usr/share/doc/novacom/changelog.gz
./usr/local/bin/novacomd/novacomd
./usr/local/bin/novacom/novacom

Does anyone know where i can get novaterm or would someone be willing to send this to me?

It would be GREATLY appreciated!

thank you,
intro.

xxhds · 08/16/2009, 03:17 PM

Just installed the keyboard, and I have to say awesome work! I am having one problem though. Landscape mode seems to have a bug. When I am in a text field and tap gesture to pull it up, it pulls up on the upper left corner in the standard portrait size. If i flip the phone to portrait and then back to landscape it enlarges. But it will not initially open bigger.

Thanks for your hard work!!!

08/15/2009, 01:25 AM	#102 (permalink)
halmo20 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 115 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts	How does shift (degree sign) work? Can't seem to make capital letters.. Also Orange key (the big O) doesn't seem to work.. Anyone knows how to use them? __________________ iPhone; the official phone of 'the Borg'
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08/15/2009, 09:25 AM	#103 (permalink)
gsx62391@yahoo.com Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 123 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 39 Thanked 27 Times in 15 Posts	Not all of the keys are fully functional yet. Thee are designated spots where they will be but have not yet been developed. This app is still in the very early stages of development and is not yet fully functional for real world use yet. If you have any skills that could help in the development please feel free to help, and it could be developed much faster.
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08/15/2009, 03:58 PM	#104 (permalink)
steveapos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 36 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Just installed the on-screen keyboard earlier today after overcoming some installation issues. It looks like I'm experiencing the bar issue on the right as well, but the keyboard appears to be the updated version. Out of curiosity I noticed you planned on inserting images for several of the buttons (sym, orange, etc). If its as easy as creating the properly sized images I would be more than glad to help in the graphic department and try to create images for the keys to better match the actual keyboard. Also do you think it would be possible to merge some of the cells? i.e. the spacebar. (I'm sure you've thought of this just considering it from a graphic standpoint. Seeing as it would be easy enough to just create four images for each of the space bar cells.) Also curious as to whether or not the cell borders can be hidden. (that way images of buttons could serve as a visual boundary.) Lastly I was wondering if its possible to increase the keyboard size to reach the edges of the screen in order to allow a little more space for buttons. (so they'll be a little easier to hit.) (ex: windows mobile keyboards) One final suggestion would be to try and create something similar to the touch pro 2 keyboard while in landscape mode (5 row keyboard mimicing the layout of a standard computer keyboard) Some other thoughts I've had on this that I can't currently check because I'm not at home, but will look into: The key to making the onscreen keyboard only work while the hardware keyboard is hidden might lie in the coding for the lock screen. (it disables if the keyboard slides out) And looking into the coding for the notifications area at the bottom of the screen where text messages, alarms, emails, general notifications, etc are shown. I think ultimately that would be the best place to have the keyboard pop up because then it would split the screen in half and allow you to still read the text message you are responding to. (wouldn't be as useful of a feature in browser, but would still probably look a little cleaner) Sorry to post so much lol, but this is something I'm really interested in and have been thinking a lot about. Last edited by steveapos; 08/15/2009 at 05:53 PM.
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08/15/2009, 07:03 PM	#105 (permalink)
steveapos Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 36 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Just thought of one more idea after trying to use the onscreen keyboard for the majority of my typing today. Do you think it would be possible to make the onscreen keyboard come on after double tapping in a text field? Not sure if that is possible, but that would definitely be a solution to the inability to use the gesture area while the hardware keyboard is exposed and would also allow gestures to be used for copying, pasting, etc without the software keyboard popping up.
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08/16/2009, 01:46 AM	#106 (permalink)
egaudet Developer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,400 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 17 Thanked 1,540 Times in 376 Posts	Patch has been updated in the repository... Added shift, sym and landscape. Hit shift once to get capital letters for a single character, hit shift twice to lock it (will turn blue indicating shift-lock). Sym key will enable scroller and numbers/symbols can be scrolled to in kb. Sym key will turn blue indicating it is on. Landscape mode works with apps that support orientation changes, resizes to fill screen. I will work on optimizing it to re-size quicker in the future, for now just wanted to get it operational.
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08/16/2009, 04:39 AM	#109 (permalink)
pullbangdead Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 353 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 7 Thanked 57 Times in 41 Posts	Well, this sucks... quilt push -a Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js patch: ** write error : No space left on device Patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch does not apply (enforce with -f) root@castle:/# quilt push -f Applying patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch patching file usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework191_15.js patch: ** write error : No space left on device Applied patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch (forced; needs refresh) root@castle:/# quilt push -a File series fully applied, ends at patch /opt/src/patches/add-onscreen-keyboard.patch root@castle:/# stop LunaSysMgr && start LunaSysMgr And the phone froze. Did a reboot, and now the phone won't boot. Gets through first, stationary palm screen, goes to alternating glow-nonglow images for about 30 seconds, and starts over. Infinite reboot cycle. Crap. Any ideas? Running webosdoctor now. Didn't want to, of course, but it's not a huge deal. Thanks for the recovery tool Palm! Honestly, I wouldn't attempt half of the fun I've had playing around with the phone, if not for knowing I had that easy back-up plan all along. Last edited by pullbangdead; 08/16/2009 at 04:46 AM.
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08/16/2009, 09:14 AM	#110 (permalink)
Ikyo Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 292 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 15 Posts	I am sure you already ran the restore, but if you look at: patch: **** write error : No space left on device You filled up the device with a ton of mods/patches/homebrew
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08/16/2009, 01:37 PM	#114 (permalink)
jrdejavux Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 199 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	sorry for the stupid question but after installation how do i make the keyboard show up ? __________________
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08/16/2009, 02:15 PM	#116 (permalink)
stevo101 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 59 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	dont foerget a sound so we knw that we have hit a key just like the old palm keyboards had.
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08/16/2009, 03:11 PM	#117 (permalink)
fsuphi1490 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 48 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	So I did the forced reapply as above. Now I have all my patches but I don't have the keyboard anymore, not old or new. Any clue? Did the updated patch change the way you pull up the keyboard? I got verification from the patch that it loaded but I just doesn't show up when I tap the gesture area.
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08/16/2009, 03:12 PM	#118 (permalink)
Jtemple33 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 213 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 22 Thanked 24 Times in 17 Posts	same...
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08/16/2009, 03:13 PM	#119 (permalink)
intro Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: texas Posts: 174 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	i did my yearly fresh install of debian, unfortunately i did not backup the original novacom download from palm (i had it saved to email). I was able to download the linux novacom from the developer.palm site but it seem's that this one doesnt include novaterm? intro@phreak:~/Desktop/novacom$ find -type f ./usr/share/doc/novacom/changelog.gz ./usr/local/bin/novacomd/novacomd ./usr/local/bin/novacom/novacom Does anyone know where i can get novaterm or would someone be willing to send this to me? It would be GREATLY appreciated! thank you, intro. __________________ -- Please post inquiries to the "Ask a Sprint rep" sticky on the CDMA North America forum. If my post was helpful please thank me! Linux/Palm Pre HELP can be found at: http://www.crombiez.com -intro.
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08/16/2009, 03:17 PM	#120 (permalink)
xxhds Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just installed the keyboard, and I have to say awesome work! I am having one problem though. Landscape mode seems to have a bug. When I am in a text field and tap gesture to pull it up, it pulls up on the upper left corner in the standard portrait size. If i flip the phone to portrait and then back to landscape it enlarges. But it will not initially open bigger. Thanks for your hard work!!!
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