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  1. #41  
    Will this be coming out of alpha soon to beta?

    Thanks
    Vas
  2.    #42  
    Quote Originally Posted by VasTheGreek View Post
    Will this be coming out of alpha soon to beta?
    When there are enough alpha test reports. I also need to add some more disclaimers and confirmation dialogs on the potentially destructive operations.

    -- Rod
  3. #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    When there are enough alpha test reports. I also need to add some more disclaimers and confirmation dialogs on the potentially destructive operations.

    -- Rod
    Are there any specific operations you need alpha users to perform?
    I could help
  4.    #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by VasTheGreek View Post
    Are there any specific operations you need alpha users to perform?
    I could help
    I need every function tested on a range of devices.

    -- Rod
  5. #45  
    Are there any chances to create a NTFS partition? I have a module ntfs-3g that can read and write on Ntfs hdd external but unless TP can power port usb itself, I'd like a solution of ntfs partition in TP for video files > 4GB
  6.    #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by hakkinen View Post
    Are there any chances to create a NTFS partition? I have a module ntfs-3g that can read and write on Ntfs hdd external but unless TP can power port usb itself, I'd like a solution of ntfs partition in TP for video files > 4GB
    We would need to get that modules into UberKernel, and would also need a way to format the NTFS partition on the device.

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
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  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    We would need to get that modules into UberKernel, and would also need a way to format the NTFS partition on the device.

    -- Rod
    I just posted an instruction (with module ntfs-3g) to read and write on NTFS USB or HDD external here http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touc...rite-ntfs.html

    I hope we can find a way to format NTFS partition on the device soon, it's very useful for my TP 64GB ^^ Do you have any ideas to do it?
  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by alex80386 View Post
    I'm pretty happy to use the command line to manage my logical volumes, but the real value of this is for all those people that want to install debian or ubuntu without a lot of linux commands or messing around with meta-doctor. Not to mention all the ones that get a touchpad and the next day they are following some instructions on some blog and install ubuntu or android. Then on the following day, they want to delete the extra logical volumes and get the space back in their USB drive.

    I'm going to take a look later... time for some backups I think.
    I have a friend with an fairly empty 16gig TouchPad who is just using it mainly to log into a webpage that can no longer be displayed properly with the upgrade to 3.04 so he needs firefox in ubuntu.

    I was getting ready to show him how to install linux when I realized we could possibly use Tailor and help out here also with some test data.

    I installed Tailor on my device first just to take a look at it (my device already has linux installed). It gives me a warning that "jails are active." Turning off the Touchpad and turning it back on does not get rid of the warning. Wondering what this means? Having trouble finding the part of the wiki that explains this. (I do have the ability to access media/internal from ubuntu so that would be my first guess.)
  9.    #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by bluenote View Post
    I have a friend with an fairly empty 16gig TouchPad who is just using it mainly to log into a webpage that can no longer be displayed properly with the upgrade to 3.04 so he needs firefox in ubuntu.

    I was getting ready to show him how to install linux when I realized we could possibly use Tailor and help out here also with some test data.

    I installed Tailor on my device first just to take a look at it (my device already has linux installed). It gives me a warning that "jails are active." Turning off the Touchpad and turning it back on does not get rid of the warning. Wondering what this means? Having trouble finding the part of the wiki that explains this. (I do have the ability to access media/internal from ubuntu so that would be my first guess.)
    What mounts are listed at the bottom of the Tailor window?

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
    www.webos-internals.org twitter.com/webosinternals facebook.com/webosinternals
  10. #50  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    What mounts are listed at the bottom of the Tailor window?

    -- Rod
    aah mounts were obscured in landscape mode by the warning but tilting in portrait can see the following:

    USB media /media/internal
    user (ext3) /media/ext3fs
    USB (media) /var/palm/jail/org.webosinternals.tweaks.prefs/media/internal
    USB (media) /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/media/internal
  11.    #51  
    Quote Originally Posted by bluenote View Post
    aah mounts were obscured in landscape mode by the warning but tilting in portrait can see the following:

    USB media /media/internal
    user (ext3) /media/ext3fs
    USB (media) /var/palm/jail/org.webosinternals.tweaks.prefs/media/internal
    USB (media) /media/ext3fs/ubuntu-natty-chroot/media/internal
    Click on the tweaks one to unmount it, then continue.

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
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  12. #52  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    Click on the tweaks one to unmount it, then continue.

    -- Rod
    I. Pressed unmount (for the tweaks one)
    Then rebooted
    Tweaks no longer shows in Tailor and no warnings appear in Tailor

    Ubuntu still works and can see media/internal docs from inside ubuntu.
    Gemini lists media/internal docs as before.
    I'm done testing with this device as it is a main one for me and it has material on the internal drive

    II. Before I test the new 16 gig drive, please confirm these below are the steps to make a 4gig sized ext3 partition and to mount it in order to install ubuntu.


    Start Tailor v0.3.0
    Select Partition -> USB (media) selected
    Unmount Partition
    Check Filesystem
    Resize USB (media) Partition -> 16400 MiB
    Check Filesystem
    Select Activity -> Mount Partition
    Select Partition -> Unused Space
    Create Partition -> User (ext3) -> 4000 MiB
    Create Partition
    Check Filesystem

    Here it prompts me to Resize... but instead scroll back up.

    Select Activity for User (ext3) -> Mount Partition
    Mount Partition
  13.    #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by bluenote View Post
    I. Pressed unmount (for the tweaks one)
    Then rebooted
    Tweaks no longer shows in Tailor and no warnings appear in Tailor

    Ubuntu still works and can see media/internal docs from inside ubuntu.
    Gemini lists media/internal docs as before.
    I'm done testing with this device as it is a main one for me and it has material on the internal drive

    II. Before I test the new 16 gig drive, please confirm these below are the steps to make a 4gig sized ext3 partition and to mount it in order to install ubuntu.


    Start Tailor v0.3.0
    Select Partition -> USB (media) selected
    Unmount Partition
    Check Filesystem
    Resize USB (media) Partition -> 16400 MiB
    Check Filesystem
    Select Activity -> Mount Partition
    Select Partition -> Unused Space
    Create Partition -> User (ext3) -> 4000 MiB
    Create Partition
    Check Filesystem

    Here it prompts me to Resize... but instead scroll back up.

    Select Activity for User (ext3) -> Mount Partition
    Mount Partition
    Correct.

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
    www.webos-internals.org twitter.com/webosinternals facebook.com/webosinternals
  14. #54  
    Doctored a touchpad with Ubuntu and Xfce already installed.
    Created ext3fs folder and edited fstab as detailed in wiki
    Installed Tailor and mounted ext3fs drive
    Installed ubuntu-natty-chroot package from Preware
    Rebooted device
    Opened xecutah and ubuntu and got the following message:

    "Could not look up internet address for Touchpad X.
    This will prevent Xfce from operating correctly.
    It may be possible to correct the problem by adding Touchpad X to the file /etc/hosts on your system"
  15.    #55  
    Quote Originally Posted by bluenote View Post
    Doctored a touchpad with Ubuntu and Xfce already installed.
    Created ext3fs folder and edited fstab as detailed in wiki
    Installed Tailor and mounted ext3fs drive
    Installed ubuntu-natty-chroot package from Preware
    Rebooted device
    Opened xecutah and ubuntu and got the following message:

    "Could not look up internet address for Touchpad X.
    This will prevent Xfce from operating correctly.
    It may be possible to correct the problem by adding Touchpad X to the file /etc/hosts on your system"
    Tailor does not use or modify /etc/hosts in any way. Your problem is elsewhere.

    I suspect you made a manual modification to /etc/hosts previously, and have neglected to make the same manual modification again after you doctored and reinstalled.

    In any case, you should raise your problem in the appropriate XFCE thread.

    -- Rod
    WebOS Internals and Preware Founder and Developer
    You may wish to donate by Paypal to donations @ webos-internals.org if you find our work useful.
    All donations go back into development.
    www.webos-internals.org twitter.com/webosinternals facebook.com/webosinternals
  16. #56  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    Tailor does not use or modify /etc/hosts in any way. Your problem is elsewhere.

    I suspect you made a manual modification to /etc/hosts previously, and have neglected to make the same manual modification again after you doctored and reinstalled.

    In any case, you should raise your problem in the appropriate XFCE thread.

    -- Rod
    Found it, thanks.
  17. #57  
    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    Correct.

    -- Rod
    Sorry for the long delay on testing this 16GB. A second one with Linux already on it is being used with firefox on a website that does not render properly in the webOS browser. As soon as the user confirms that his customers can easily log in and scroll, we will move to adding Linux on the first Pad (and user Tailor to create the partition). We have tentatively scheduled this Wed or Thurs for this.
  18. #58  
    I reduced the partition size of the USB media partition to 5GB so that I could increase the partition size of my Android data folder. When I went to increase the size of the data folder, it took 4 times to get the file system repaired after unmounting it. I finally got it repaired and Tailor let me resize the partition, which I did to 22GB. After the partition was resized, I did a file system check on the new partition and it needed repairs too. Ran file repair twice and it came up fixed. Did one more check filesystem and it came back successful. Something in your partition resizing seems to leave the new partition in a corrupt state.

    After doing that, I booted into CM7 and did a data wipe/format on the newly resized data partition to start with a fresh. I'll post again with an update on how CM7 responds to the huge data partition.
  19. #59  
    Using Tailor 0.30. 32GB TP, WebOS 3.0.4

    Before:

    15.586 GB USB (media)
    6 GB User (Ext3) <-- Ubuntu chroot
    8 GB Unused space

    I resized the Ext3 partition to 3.5 GB. Now Unused Space only shows 2648 MB, and I'm missing 8 GB. I'm going to try to check with command-line tools after I refamiliarize myself with the process.

    Got lvs from command line:
    Code:
      LV        VG    Attr   LSize   Origin Snap%  Move Log Copy%  Convert
      ext3fs    store -wima-   3.42G                                      
      filecache store -wimao 136.00M                                      
      log       store -wimao  24.00M                                      
      media     store -wima-  15.59G                                      
      mojodb    store -wimao 256.00M                                      
      root      store -wimao 568.00M                                      
      swap      store -wimao 512.00M                                      
      update    store -wima-  16.00M                                      
      var       store -wimao   6.00G
    lvdisplay -m

    Code:
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/root
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                lZ6sL4-BGU5-aFCH-dxFY-bq6w-6rH9-zgAEs0
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                568.00 MB
      Current LE             71
      Segments               1
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       0
      Block device           254:0
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 70:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	0 to 70
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/var
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                Emdi8R-FvPE-pkVE-gIjw-qES1-CdMX-hhpT8J
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                6.00 GB
      Current LE             768
      Segments               2
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       1
      Block device           254:1
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 7:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	71 to 78
       
      Logical extent 8 to 767:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	1602 to 2361
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/update
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                7Oay33-dDFX-yobd-hTT5-mMl2-ISZr-2oqrbm
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 0
      LV Size                16.00 MB
      Current LE             2
      Segments               1
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       2
      Block device           254:2
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 1:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	79 to 80
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/log
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                chWdPN-Lht5-ZprM-OxSo-Az99-HOh7-01Msns
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                24.00 MB
      Current LE             3
      Segments               1
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       3
      Block device           254:3
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 2:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	81 to 83
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/mojodb
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                Xdgnoc-lrFA-FDFl-YfsJ-P33g-kqGK-012onN
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                256.00 MB
      Current LE             32
      Segments               2
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       4
      Block device           254:4
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 17:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	84 to 101
       
      Logical extent 18 to 31:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	3706 to 3719
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/filecache
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                tvHzqt-3Oim-BT7b-kHL0-7GHE-2FjD-721B9u
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                136.00 MB
      Current LE             17
      Segments               1
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       5
      Block device           254:5
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 16:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	102 to 118
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/media
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                A4GffD-Y4Qx-Fgbl-SFIe-B7vx-MDjs-stWb4j
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 0
      LV Size                15.59 GB
      Current LE             1995
      Segments               3
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       6
      Block device           254:6
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 1482:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	119 to 1601
       
      Logical extent 1483 to 1738:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	2362 to 2617
       
      Logical extent 1739 to 1994:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	3400 to 3655
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/swap
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                gb10f1-3eY0-jglT-zxOt-8LtG-TnXc-ZeFvYV
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 1
      LV Size                512.00 MB
      Current LE             64
      Segments               2
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       7
      Block device           254:7
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 49:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	3656 to 3705
       
      Logical extent 50 to 63:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	2618 to 2631
       
       
      --- Logical volume ---
      LV Name                /dev/store/ext3fs
      VG Name                store
      LV UUID                ZdkCOy-EXpl-tvBo-VyrU-3lSr-bS0b-00hR7P
      LV Write Access        read/write
      LV Status              available
      # open                 0
      LV Size                3.42 GB
      Current LE             438
      Segments               1
      Allocation             inherit
      Read ahead sectors     auto
      - currently set to     256
      Persistent major       254
      Persistent minor       9
      Block device           254:9
       
      --- Segments ---
      Logical extent 0 to 437:
        Type		linear
        Physical volume	/dev/mmcblk0p14
        Physical extents	2632 to 3069
    vgdisplay:

    Code:
      --- Volume group ---
      VG Name               store
      System ID             
      Format                lvm2
      Metadata Areas        2
      Metadata Sequence No  19
      VG Access             read/write
      VG Status             resizable
      MAX LV                0
      Cur LV                9
      Open LV               6
      Max PV                0
      Cur PV                1
      Act PV                1
      VG Size               29.07 GB
      PE Size               8.00 MB
      Total PE              3721
      Alloc PE / Size       3390 / 26.48 GB
      Free  PE / Size       331 / 2.59 GB
      VG UUID               SGXdun-X52O-PFkj-73BW-Kzj0-bSga-CVDBEt
    pvdisplay:

    Code:
      --- Physical volume ---
      PV Name               /dev/mmcblk0p14
      VG Name               store
      PV Size               29.09 GB / not usable 22.00 MB
      Allocatable           yes 
      PE Size (KByte)       8192
      Total PE              3721
      Free PE               331
      Allocated PE          3390
      PV UUID               oC4DNs-CR9A-G9KG-Cy7l-9jOO-l04a-5WoHXp
    and for good measure, fstab:

    Code:
    # fstab auto-generated by trenchcoat
    # <filesystem>	<mount point>	<type>	<options>	<dump>	<pass>
    rootfs	/	ext3	ro,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async,noatime	1	1
    /dev/mapper/store-var	/var	ext3	noatime,data=writeback	0	0
    /dev/mapper/store-cryptodb	/var/db	ext3	noauto,noatime,data=ordered	0
    /dev/mapper/store-cryptofilecache	/var/file-cache	ext3	noauto,noatime,user_xattr	0	0
    /dev/mapper/store-log	/var/log	ext3	noatime	0	0
    /dev/mapper/store-update	/var/lib/update	ext3	noauto,noatime	0	0
    proc	/proc	proc	defaults	0	0
    devpts	/dev/pts	devpts	mode=0620,gid=5	0	0
    tmpfs	/tmp	tmpfs	size=40M,mode=1777	0	0
    tmpfs	/var/run	tmpfs	size=16M,mode=1777	0	0
    tmpfs	/var/tmp	tmpfs	size=32M,mode=1777	0	0
    tmpfs	/media/ram	tmpfs	defaults	0	0
    /dev/mapper/store-media	/media/internal	vfat	utf8,shortname=mixed,umask=00000
    /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs /media/ext3fs ext3 noatime,data=writeback  0  0
    Thanks!
    Last edited by itachi1; 12/11/2011 at 11:16 PM. Reason: added lvs, lvdisplay, vgdisplay, pvdisplay, and fstab
  20.    #60  
    Quote Originally Posted by itachi1 View Post
    Using Tailor 0.30. 32GB TP, WebOS 3.0.4

    Before:

    15.586 GB USB (media)
    6 GB User (Ext3) <-- Ubuntu chroot
    8 GB Unused space

    I resized the Ext3 partition to 3.5 GB. Now Unused Space only shows 2648 MB, and I'm missing 8 GB. I'm going to try to check with command-line tools after I refamiliarize myself with the process.

    Any ideas welcome.
    Please post the output of lvdisplay, vgdisplay and pvdisplay.

    -- Rod
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