I did that initially but I was still getting the error until the cryptofs directory was removed. All is well again.

I did the update & now when i load preware all fields remain grey and unresponsive

Worked great for me. Thank you soooo much for this work-around. Did not want to WEBOSDR. Was nervous at first but getting more confident with Linux Commandline.

OK Guys, blame me for this one, not PreGame.

I've determined the cause, and pushed Led Manager Service 0.2.1 so that it doesn't continue to happen for new people.

Now to work out a fix that will be the most convenient for everyone affected so far.

-- Rod

OK, this problem should be fixed in Package Manager Service 0.9.29 - update using Preware if you can, or otherwise use WebOS Quick Install to remove and reinstall the Package Manager Service.

Here's the background for anyone interested:

1) There are a number of packages which do both "ipkg -o /var remove <foo>" and "ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove <foo>" in the install script to make sure that a certain package "<foo>" is removed whether or not the script is running on a webOS 1.3.1 or webOS 1.3.5 device.

2) It turns out that if you do an "ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps remove <foo>" on a webOS 1.3.1 device, it will actually *create* the /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib/ipkg directory (this is not surprising in hindsight).

3) The Package Manager Service (and a number of other packages) used a test for existence of the /media/cryptofs/apps directory to determine whether they should use /var or /media/cryptofs/apps as the application installation directory.

4) Since this directory had been incorrectly created on a webOS 1.3.1 device, the Package Manager Service then thought it was running on a webOS 1.3.5 device, and all hell broke loose as a result.

5) We have now made the check for usage of /media/cryptofs/apps more robust. Note that we didn't want to put specific webOS version checks in there, cause we weren't sure (and still can't be certain) at what version of webOS Palm will transition to /media/cryptofs/apps for GSM device - we assume it will be webOS 1.3.5, but have no way of knowing if that will indeed be the case. So we check /etc/palm/luna.conf directly to see whether that is using /media/cryptofs/apps.

6) We're also putting checks in the packages that call ipkg remove, to make sure they only access /media/cryptofs/apps on devices that are really using that directory in /etc/palm/luna.conf.

So in hindsight I should have thought of this scenario ahead of time, but didn't. Sincere apologies to all who were affected.

-- Rod

Rod, your fault or not, you still do amazing things for WebOS. Props to you for figuring it out and fixing it. All I can say is IT happens.

Hi Rod,

Thanks for the solution, plus thanks to the other guy's in this thread for working out the common theme of 1.3.1 users !!

I really did not fancy trying the fixes in #17 & #18, so I was pleased to see Rod's post.

I had to fire up WebOS Quick Install as my Preware was totally freaked out by the whole affair.

Now everything is back to normal.

Thanks again to Rod

Yeah, once a problem is correctly characterised, solving it is usually they easier part

-- Rod

the exact thing happened to me last night and i was worried i would have to doctor it. thanks rod for the work you've put into this. and nice touch on the icon notice, i was just going to post about it then the msg came up. good work

FYI, I've now removed myFlashLight! and installed LED Torch instead, much better for my needs.

I also tried to remove "LED Manager Service", as it only seemed to be needed by myFlashLight!, but it will not delete.

So is LMS used by other apps, Camera perhaps, or have I got a left over item that might cause problems when I update to 1.3.5 ?

One dumb question: How do I remove the service without preware? I will search this forum for the answer, but Im not that keen in command-line webOs-installation routienes. I have a terminal on my pre, but i use it mainly to access ssh-servers.

Thanks in anticipation

Best regards

Matthias

Edit:

Sorry! All the threads solve my problem. I didnt push refresh on my browser since yesterday. Thanks for the sollution!

has anyone noticed IMPROVED battery life with updating to the latest package manager 0.9.29?

I doubt it, since the Package Manager Service does absolutely nothing when it's not being accessed by Preware ...

-- Rod

Saw an update for this today that is causing me problems.. it installed perfectly fine, however after rebooting I attempted to start Preware and it keeps telling me that Package Manager Service isn't running..

yes i am getting the package MS isnt running message. Under device management it is listed but is not showing on my phone when i look at device info

what can we do here? there was a thread discussing it but it was closed down and redirected here....

and carrying on from my above post, pms runs if i dont have preware installed, i can use luna mgr to shutdown. But once i add preware i get the same pms isnt running message! weird

How did you install the update?

-- Rod

I installed it from Preware.

I updated ikpg via preware & no preware won't open. It's stuck at 'downloading feed info'.

it did it on 2 phones. I did a restart right after the update. Maybe I should of waited to restart.

so I got a new pre. Went to install the package manger and preware both installed fine. Restarted it loaded up preware and get package manger error. Unistall via quick install reset my device then reinstall. Get the same thing. So far I've tried the dr and repair utilty. Any ideas or help