Fair Dinkum App Limit - remove the arbitrary limit on app installation - Page 6

DrSuSE · 10/12/2009, 01:05 PM

Space information, this is even with the new app installed:

Code:

root@castle:/var/usr/palm/applications# df
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/store-var
                        253920    184548     69372  73% /var

Code:

root@castle:/var/usr/palm/applications# du -mcs
45      .
45      total

So my /var is 73% full (i.e. not at the limit) and I don't have 64MB worth of apps.

Rob Ril · 10/12/2009, 01:06 PM

Worked flawlessly for me. Just to make sure I was at the limit, I tried a free app and I got the error message - left the app catalog open - installed the Fair Dinkum app - did not reboot - maximized open card for app catalog and installed the previously failed app.

Thanks again!

rmingee · 10/12/2009, 01:11 PM

Sorry for the only tangentially-related question, but what's the easiest way to get terminal access to print out partition usage info? Is it with the Terminal homebrew app and associated service plugin? That hasn't been updated in a while, but that may just be because it there was no need. I just wanted ot make sure I wasn't missing "the best" way to do that.

Thanks,
-- robert

chodaboy · 01:30 PM

I have the same problem as others. Still cannot install anything from the App Catalog. Everything seems installed correctly by Fair Dinkum. I have the symbolic links. Here is my df -k:

Code:

Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                  452296    393920     58376  87% /
/dev/root                31728     11368     20360  36% /boot
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        452296    393920     58376  87% /
df: /dev/.static/dev: Permission denied
tmpfs                     2048       152      1896   7% /dev
/dev/mapper/store-var
                        253920    200432     53488  79% /var
/dev/mapper/store-log
                         39664      8044     31620  20% /var/log
tmpfs                    65536      3052     62484   5% /tmp
tmpfs                   122516         0    122516   0% /media/ram
/dev/mapper/store-media
                       7011456   1750944   5260512  25% /media/internal
/dev/mapper/store-var
                        253920    200432     53488  79% /opt

I guess I reached the max for /var?

jluna9406 · 10/12/2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxima2k53

this DOES let u install apps from the catalog

Well then please tell me how cause I obviously am not the only person having this issue! Just read a lot of the other posts that are the same as mine!

maxima2k53 · 10/12/2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jluna9406

Well then please tell me how cause I obviously am not the only person having this issue! Just read a lot of the other posts that are the same as mine!

yeah i understand...listen this program(if i read correctly) raises the memory from 64mb to 256mb or something...so it was 64mb b4...and now its 256 so if u go over the 256 it'll give u an error...now if u barely installed apps...then i have no clue...all i know is that after i installed this app...i have been able to update 2 apps and installed over 6 or so apps and everything worked gr8 for me...if it didnt for u im really sorry and hope rod has an update or w.e

LVRealtor · 10/12/2009, 01:28 PM

Seems to work fine. Downloaded several small apps and one LARGE 5MB app (Card Ace).

Thank you for the fix.

mjorange · 10/12/2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyusaku

If you have "Show All Package Types" turned off in Preferences it would be under "Available Other>Linux Application>Utilities"(Make sure Show Other Types is on in Preferences) Or just scroll down to "List Everything" and should be one of the most recent items.

I've read every detail of every page, updated repeatedly, rebooted, looked in Available Other - Preware is still not displaying the app. Any further advice for those of us who are frustrated and merely want to benefit?

LVRealtor · 10/12/2009, 01:44 PM

MJ, on the first page of Preware you are selecting "List of Everything" at the bottom? Then scroll down about 9 apps (will change as new apps are added) or start typing "Fair." If still not there, I'm out of suggestions.

jport1975 · 10/12/2009, 01:44 PM

cover this one in awesome sauce!

xorg · 10/12/2009, 01:45 PM

Rod, here is a mod to your 'du' command so that it will only return 0 if the app catalog is running. If app catalog is not running, it will run the normal du command. What you've posted is pretty risky for anything else that depends on the du command.

Code:

#!/bin/sh
luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/running {} 2>&1 |grep findapps  >/dev/null
if [ $? == 0 ]
then
 echo "0 $2"
else
 /usr/bin/du $*
fi

diomark · 10/12/2009, 01:47 PM

This is great - but I'm noticing that it actually deletes the du and ipkg programs from the phone.. Might be better to move them to a backup file just in case?
-mark
EDIT - nevermind; just noticed the real du and ipkg are in a different directory and this simply replaces the NEW commands in /usr/local/bin if they exist

cyberstven · 10/12/2009, 01:48 PM

Not showing up in my Preware eve after multiple updates. I cant see the new version of Preware either ( im stuck in 0.9.3). Any suggestions?

chronic25 · 10/12/2009, 01:50 PM

So it appears that if you have few Homebrew apps loaded, the App limit is now 256MB and you can load Catalog Apps up to that limit. You can then load Homebrew apps beyond that point. Therefore, what we need is an update to WebOS Quick Install that will back off and save all Homebrew apps data. Then we can add the Catalog apps from the phone. And finally, Quick Install can help us put back all of the Homebrew apps again.

OR PALM CAN JUST FIX THE PROBLEM OF HAVING SUCH A LIMITED SPACE FOR APPS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! All this unnecessary hacking is ridiculous, especially since Palm is limiting the amount of MONEY they can make with all of these devices.

I love all of the patches and homebrew apps as much as the next user. But this limitation is so fundamental to the normal use of the phone, I'm baffled that there hasn't been an official fix to this. We need the viral video ninja to make more movies that call out Palm to this issue just like when they wouldn't announce a release date. PAAAAALM!!!!!!

jack87 · 04:07 PM

No go for me Rod spent about an hour and a half trying to find a solution in the IRC channel. I still keep getting not enough space error after countless restarts. i have plenty of room in the var partition as well.

paste bin

Code:

/dev/mapper/store-var 248.0M    153.6M     94.3M  62% /opt

cant figure out what the deal is. but i can not download any apps from the app catalog.

i did infact check to see if the app is installed correctly and indeed it is.

feel free to send me a PM to get my attention or whoever might have some ideas. i figure i can restore the pre might fix whatever issue i have but want to figure a solution to it incase others might be facing it.

another thing i want to try is to load the pre up with bunch of catalog apps exceeding 64mb and then restoring pre to see if it will back up and reinstall all the catalog apps or will it stop once it hits 64mb... i wonder if restoring back ups has the same limit as installing from catalog. i cant test it considering the fair dinkum app is not working for me at this point.

parout · 10/12/2009, 02:26 PM

Any ideas on why this won't install? It states version incompatibility.

Quote:

I am at my limit on memory. Tried to install fix via Preware. When launching Preware I get "Package Service Manager running is not compatible with this version of Preware."

I am running what I thought were the latest versions of both.
Package Service Manger v0.9.7
Preware v0.9.4

sudoer · 10/12/2009, 02:45 PM

Thanks so much for this xorg. I suggested the same thing in other posts/comments but did not bother to write the code (which you did). I did tell rwhitby that I would not install this patch until it had better personality checking to avoid breaking other patches/scripts.

EDIT: I had also suggested that he check that the parent process that is calling the du command be a process from an app catalog. Your fix does not cover the (remote) possibility that someone might be running an app catalog update and another program/script that is using du at the same time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorg

Rod, here is a mod to your 'du' command so that it will only return 0 if the app catalog is running. If app catalog is not running, it will run the normal du command. What you've posted is pretty risky for anything else that depends on the du command.

Code:

#!/bin/sh
luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/running {} 2>&1 |grep findapps  >/dev/null
if [ $? == 0 ]
then
 echo "0 $2"
else
 /usr/bin/du $*
fi

mcpreos2009 · 10/12/2009, 02:46 PM

ROD, Many Thank's...

AWESOME... THANK YOU... Rod... Great App... Use the App Catalog...
There was no problem downloading Software Applications...

App: ( Fair Dinkum App Limit_v.0.3.0 )

OS: webOS_v1.2.1

preware_v0.9.4 <---I Used to Install my (1'st Option) - GOOD
WebOS Quick Install_v2.72 <-- 2nd Option GOOD Aswell...
Diffstat_v1.45
GNU Patch_v2.5.9-3

p4trickh · 10/12/2009, 03:16 PM

This is sooo awesome. It even seems to make the downloading from the App Catalog faster! rwhitby, are you accepting worshippers into the Church of Awesome? I am not worthy, but I am very grateful!

DrewPre · 10/12/2009, 03:17 PM

how does this app work?

Does it allow apps to be installed in /media/internal and then create symbolic links to them in /var/usr/palm/applications or /usr/palm/application?

10/12/2009, 01:05 PM	#101 (permalink)
DrSuSE Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 490 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 14 Thanked 74 Times in 56 Posts	Space information, this is even with the new app installed: Code: root@castle:/var/usr/palm/applications# df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/store-var 253920 184548 69372 73% /var Code: root@castle:/var/usr/palm/applications# du -mcs 45 . 45 total So my /var is 73% full (i.e. not at the limit) and I don't have 64MB worth of apps.
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10/12/2009, 01:06 PM	#102 (permalink)
Rob Ril Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 19 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Worked flawlessly for me. Just to make sure I was at the limit, I tried a free app and I got the error message - left the app catalog open - installed the Fair Dinkum app - did not reboot - maximized open card for app catalog and installed the previously failed app. Thanks again!
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10/12/2009, 01:11 PM	#103 (permalink)
rmingee Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 35 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Sorry for the only tangentially-related question, but what's the easiest way to get terminal access to print out partition usage info? Is it with the Terminal homebrew app and associated service plugin? That hasn't been updated in a while, but that may just be because it there was no need. I just wanted ot make sure I wasn't missing "the best" way to do that. Thanks, -- robert
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10/12/2009, 01:28 PM	#107 (permalink)
LVRealtor Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 53 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts	Seems to work fine. Downloaded several small apps and one LARGE 5MB app (Card Ace). Thank you for the fix.
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10/12/2009, 01:44 PM	#109 (permalink)
LVRealtor Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 53 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts	MJ, on the first page of Preware you are selecting "List of Everything" at the bottom? Then scroll down about 9 apps (will change as new apps are added) or start typing "Fair." If still not there, I'm out of suggestions.
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10/12/2009, 01:44 PM	#110 (permalink)
jport1975 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 55 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	cover this one in awesome sauce!
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10/12/2009, 01:45 PM	#111 (permalink)
xorg Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 633 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 85 Thanked 303 Times in 146 Posts	Rod, here is a mod to your 'du' command so that it will only return 0 if the app catalog is running. If app catalog is not running, it will run the normal du command. What you've posted is pretty risky for anything else that depends on the du command. Code: #!/bin/sh luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/running {} 2>&1 \|grep findapps >/dev/null if [ $? == 0 ] then echo "0 $2" else /usr/bin/du $* fi
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10/12/2009, 01:47 PM	#112 (permalink)
diomark Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 770 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 37 Thanked 276 Times in 83 Posts	This is great - but I'm noticing that it actually deletes the du and ipkg programs from the phone.. Might be better to move them to a backup file just in case? -mark EDIT - nevermind; just noticed the real du and ipkg are in a different directory and this simply replaces the NEW commands in /usr/local/bin if they exist
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10/12/2009, 01:48 PM	#113 (permalink)
cyberstven Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 90 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Not showing up in my Preware eve after multiple updates. I cant see the new version of Preware either ( im stuck in 0.9.3). Any suggestions?
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10/12/2009, 01:50 PM	#114 (permalink)
chronic25 Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 83 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	So it appears that if you have few Homebrew apps loaded, the App limit is now 256MB and you can load Catalog Apps up to that limit. You can then load Homebrew apps beyond that point. Therefore, what we need is an update to WebOS Quick Install that will back off and save all Homebrew apps data. Then we can add the Catalog apps from the phone. And finally, Quick Install can help us put back all of the Homebrew apps again. OR PALM CAN JUST FIX THE PROBLEM OF HAVING SUCH A LIMITED SPACE FOR APPS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! All this unnecessary hacking is ridiculous, especially since Palm is limiting the amount of MONEY they can make with all of these devices. I love all of the patches and homebrew apps as much as the next user. But this limitation is so fundamental to the normal use of the phone, I'm baffled that there hasn't been an official fix to this. We need the viral video ninja to make more movies that call out Palm to this issue just like when they wouldn't announce a release date. PAAAAALM!!!!!! __________________ 11+ yrs w/ a Palm: It's come a long way!
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10/12/2009, 02:16 PM	#115 (permalink)
jack87 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Salt Lake City, Ut Posts: 1,225 Likes Received: 9 Thanks: 78 Thanked 179 Times in 128 Posts	No go for me Rod spent about an hour and a half trying to find a solution in the IRC channel. I still keep getting not enough space error after countless restarts. i have plenty of room in the var partition as well. paste bin Code: /dev/mapper/store-var 248.0M 153.6M 94.3M 62% /opt cant figure out what the deal is. but i can not download any apps from the app catalog. i did infact check to see if the app is installed correctly and indeed it is. feel free to send me a PM to get my attention or whoever might have some ideas. i figure i can restore the pre might fix whatever issue i have but want to figure a solution to it incase others might be facing it. another thing i want to try is to load the pre up with bunch of catalog apps exceeding 64mb and then restoring pre to see if it will back up and reinstall all the catalog apps or will it stop once it hits 64mb... i wonder if restoring back ups has the same limit as installing from catalog. i cant test it considering the fair dinkum app is not working for me at this point. __________________ MatterOfFactJack Last edited by jack87; 10/12/2009 at 04:07 PM.
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10/12/2009, 02:46 PM	#118 (permalink)
mcpreos2009 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California Posts: 13 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 54 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	ROD, Many Thank's... AWESOME... THANK YOU... Rod... Great App... Use the App Catalog... There was no problem downloading Software Applications... App: ( Fair Dinkum App Limit_v.0.3.0 ) OS: webOS_v1.2.1 preware_v0.9.4 <---I Used to Install my (1'st Option) - GOOD WebOS Quick Install_v2.72 <-- 2nd Option GOOD Aswell... Diffstat_v1.45 GNU Patch_v2.5.9-3 __________________ m505, Samsung SPH-I300, Treo 650, Palm Pre
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10/12/2009, 03:16 PM	#119 (permalink)
p4trickh Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 50 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	This is sooo awesome. It even seems to make the downloading from the App Catalog faster! rwhitby, are you accepting worshippers into the Church of Awesome? I am not worthy, but I am very grateful!
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10/12/2009, 03:17 PM	#120 (permalink)
DrewPre Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HARD Streets of Alpharetta, GA Posts: 829 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 44 Thanked 176 Times in 92 Posts	how does this app work? Does it allow apps to be installed in /media/internal and then create symbolic links to them in /var/usr/palm/applications or /usr/palm/application?
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