pReader (an eBook Reader for Palm-DOC files)

[Jappus]

Originally Posted by alan sh

Martin, I assume you are only working on the new pReader. Isn't this thread about the old one?

Yup., I'm only working on the new one -- no point in flogging a dead horse, after all.

But it is bad style to answer a question from one thread in another one. ^__^

anyway, any ideas when an updated new one is out?

I intended to release an update this week, but the nasty WebOS 1.4.5 bug is still not quite fixed. For some reason, the back-end does not start on WebOS 1.4.5. As I currently have no device with that version, I depend on someone else who has graciously volunteered to run a modified debugging version of the back-end to see what may be the problem.

Unfortunately, he has run into some problems with installing the SDK/PDK and as such can't access the oh so important GNU Debugger on his devices. This has caused some delays in that respect. But as soon as the bug is fixed, I'll do a release. Promise.

[govotsos]

Originally Posted by Jappus

I intended to release an update this week, but the nasty WebOS 1.4.5 bug is still not quite fixed. For some reason, the back-end does not start on WebOS 1.4.5. As I currently have no device with that version, I depend on someone else who has graciously volunteered to run a modified debugging version of the back-end to see what may be the problem.

If it would help, I have 2 Verizon Pre Pluses with 1.4.5.1 on them (can be doctored to 1.4.5). I can run the new version & help testing. They are no longer activated on the phone service, but still have WiFi access. I'll have to check with the boss (my lovely wife), but I think I could probably send one to you. You'd need a voltage converter though since they're set up for 120VAC.

[Jappus]

Originally Posted by govotsos

If it would help, I have 2 Verizon Pre Pluses with 1.4.5.1 on them (can be doctored to 1.4.5). I can run the new version & help testing. They are no longer activated on the phone service, but still have WiFi access. I'll have to check with the boss (my lovely wife), but I think I could probably send one to you. You'd need a voltage converter though since they're set up for 120VAC.

You don't need to send me a device, as I still own one. It's just lying around back in Berlin, some 650km away from where I currently live.

It also does not matter that they have no cellular network access, as all that is needed to debug the issue is a working USB connection. After that, all you need to do is to install the WebOS SDK/PDK, put your device in developer mode, use the SDK to install GDB and SSH on the device and then reboot. After that, it's easy as pie to get terminal access to the device and debug the crashing back-end.

The problem that Joe has (the user who so graciously volunteered to do the above), is that the SDK will not install the Novacom "terminal over USB" driver correctly, that is necessary to make that crucial SSH connection.

If you could check whether your device can be accessed via SSH (a link in the start-menu is always installed by the SDK and is labeled "Putty") after following the above steps, that'd greatly help, because quite frankly, I'm completely stumped why his PC does not want to use the Novacom driver correctly.


Thanks,
Jappus.

[govotsos]

@jappus OK. I'll get it out & do that tomorrow. The computer I seem to have the best luck connecting to devices is an XP machine. Are you looking for connecting from any particular OS? Does is matter 1.4.5 or 1.4.5.1 for the Pre?

[Jappus]

Originally Posted by govotsos

@jappus OK. I'll get it out & do that tomorrow. The computer I seem to have the best luck connecting to devices is an XP machine. Are you looking for connecting from any particular OS? Does is matter 1.4.5 or 1.4.5.1 for the Pre?

Personally, I currently connect and develop from a Windows 7 x64 box and previously did so from a WinXP x86; so it should run no matter what you throw at it.

As for WebOS: 1.4.5.1 would be better, as 1.4.5 has the fstab-bug.


Here's the full step-by-step guide that I sent Joe. Unfortunately, his PC does not like the SDK at all, even going so far as to Blue-Screen just because VirtualBox is installed...

Originally Posted by Jappus

All you have to do is to download the SDK/PDK from this link and install it:

https://developer.palm.com/content/r..._download.html

The specific file that you'll need is one of the following two:

https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdo....5-676-x86.exe

https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdo....5-676-x64.exe

Which one you need depends on your Operating System -- whether you have an 64-bit Windows or a 32-bit Windows. If in doubt, choose the x86 variant.


You can safely ignore all the other packages on that page. You don't need the Emulator and you also don't need the C++ compiler from CodeSourcery -- as you won't compile anything yourself. Just install the SDK/PDK. I presume you already have Java installed, as lots of different programs need it anyway. But if you don't have one and the SDK complains, just install it from the link on the HP WebOS page I gave you above..


Anyway, after having installed the SDK/PDK, reboot your machine (this is only necessary on Windows XP, but it doesn't hurt on Vista/Win7 either).

Meanwhile, take your Palm and enter developer mode (if you haven't already to install Preware). To do that, just search for "webos20090606" when no card is open and the launcher closed. If that doesn't work, try the older "upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart" code. Enable the developer mode in the hidden application that will now be visible. Your Palm should automatically reboot.


Then, connect your Palm to your PC. Select "Only charge".

Open up a command line interpreter by executing "Start -> Run -> cmd". As soon as you see that lovely black-and-white box, navigate to the installation folder of the PDK's binaries. On my computer that means executing:

"cd C:\Program Files\HP webOS\PDK\bin"

On your PC, the path might be subtly different. Please always ignore the leading and closing quotation marks.


Anyway, after that, execute:

"pdk-device-install.bat install"

Your device will restart again, now with FULL developer mode on, GDB installed and accessible via SSH over the USB cable.



If you've reached that spot, verify that you can log on to the device by clicking on "Start -> Programs -> HP WebOS -> WebOS PDK -> Putty". If it asks you for a username and password, enter "root" and hit enter for the password (as there is none).


Again, a nice black terminal should greet you. As soon as you've got that far, just contact me again, and I'll send you the debugging executable and another step-by-step guide that tells you how to examine where the bloody thing crashes with GDB.

[alan sh]

Do you think he has a TouchPad?

comment now irrelevant because the previous post is deleted.

[pebb2]

Originally Posted by Jappus

Yup., I'm only working on the new one -- no point in flogging a dead horse, after all.

But it is bad style to answer a question from one thread in another one. ^__^


I intended to release an update this week, but the nasty WebOS 1.4.5 bug is still not quite fixed. For some reason, the back-end does not start on WebOS 1.4.5. As I currently have no device with that version, I depend on someone else who has graciously volunteered to run a modified debugging version of the back-end to see what may be the problem.

Unfortunately, he has run into some problems with installing the SDK/PDK and as such can't access the oh so important GNU Debugger on his devices. This has caused some delays in that respect. But as soon as the bug is fixed, I'll do a release. Promise.

Any status update on the software update for the pReader?

[alan sh]

I hope I am not pre-empting, but Martin (Jappus) has fixed the 1.4.5 bug with the new pReader. I'm not sure if that version has been released.

Alan

[Jappus]

Originally Posted by pebb2

Any status update on the software update for the pReader?

v0.9.17 fixed the issue for Pre+/Pre Classic.

There still seems to be an issue with Pixi's, though; as they crash the backend during initialization, too. It's an unrelated issue to the Pre/Pre+ issue, though.

[pebb2]

Originally Posted by Jappus

v0.9.17 fixed the issue for Pre+/Pre Classic.

There still seems to be an issue with Pixi's, though; as they crash the backend during initialization, too. It's an unrelated issue to the Pre/Pre+ issue, though.

Sorry to bother you, any update on the software update?

[Jappus]

Originally Posted by pebb2

Sorry to bother you, any update on the software update?

Unfortunately, no. I had virtually no free development time during the last few weeks. See my update in the other thread for the native pReader-Alpha (even though it's pretty much a Beta by now. :P)

[grankin]

I inadvertently downloaded the same book twice. Both sit in the "add book" list. "Delete library" doesn't delete them. Clearly they take up space that could otherwise be used (or saved for future use).

How to get rid of the extra one?

[RumoredNow]

Originally Posted by grankin

I inadvertently downloaded the same book twice. Both sit in the "add book" list. "Delete library" doesn't delete them. Clearly they take up space that could otherwise be used (or saved for future use).

How to get rid of the extra one?

Have you tried Internalz Pro?

http://www.webosnation.com/internalz

[grankin]

Originally Posted by RumoredNow

Have you tried Internalz Pro?

http://www.webosnation.com/internalz

have not, looked it up ... then realized: USB mode, "downloads" folder ... and there both copies are. Delete the one I do not want. Go back ... and it is still there. Re-set, and it is gone. Didn't have to spend $3.99, but will hold that tip for future reference. Thanks!

[pebb2]

Originally Posted by Jappus

Unfortunately, no. I had virtually no free development time during the last few weeks. See my update in the other thread for the native pReader-Alpha (even though it's pretty much a Beta by now. :P)

Ok, thanks. Can you send me the link for the other thread?

Thanks

[govotsos]

Originally Posted by pebb2

Ok, thanks. Can you send me the link for the other thread?

Thanks

http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-homebrew-apps/274511-preader-native-alpha-release-new-post.html