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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweety81 View Post
    Do you support direct html files to library in the near future? Normaly i use following tags: strong, italic, anchor (for index), headlines, Horizontal line and sometimes acronyms. I ask because html files will always work on every os same like txt and not like the other newfangled formats...
    Yes, as I said earlier, one of the very next formats to be implemented will be HTML. But getting HTML right takes time, since it's not only a very popular format, it's also a very abused format.


    The other formats, like FictionBook, Plucker, ePub, LIT, will be implemented afterwards. Of course not necessarily in that order, though. Also, if you feel up to the task, you can help us with implementing these formats, since adding is almost entirely independent of the other parts of the application.
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    Jappus,

    Have you given any thought to haveing an optionally available service to help with some of the heavy lifting. I think you have mentioned before that you would like to distribute this at some point via the app catalog and that precludes use of undocumented by default hence the optionally available part.

    This would make the intensive parts such as the decrypt and epub zip handling faster. Just a thought.


    As far as the security store goes, it would be nice if it could be made to be a generic store. Something like a 1Password compatible keychain store would be fantastic. =)
  3.    #303  
    Quote Originally Posted by jauderho View Post
    Jappus,

    Have you given any thought to haveing an optionally available service to help with some of the heavy lifting. I think you have mentioned before that you would like to distribute this at some point via the app catalog and that precludes use of undocumented by default hence the optionally available part.

    This would make the intensive parts such as the decrypt and epub zip handling faster. Just a thought.
    I've thought about it very early on in development, and yes, it would make some things easier. But it also would make a lot of things harder.

    The other eReader for the Palm Pre (the Popelli Reader) uses just such a scheme. All the decompression, conversion and all the page-fitting happens in the cloud. That means that they could add support for formats much quicker than we can, because they're not restricted to Javascript. They can take any X-to-HTML converter and live with it. They don't even need to care whether it's GPLed or not, since it's more or less hidden from view.

    But that comes in at a cost: Every book must be transferred over the net, once up, and once down. If the server's down, is overtaxed or is simply shut down in a few years, you're out of luck. Also, the more people use it, the slower the conversion will be. All in all, it's often pretty much exactly as slow as the pReader is now; only that the pReader does everything on the device.

    On top of that, they can pretty much forget about ever implementing DRM. Furthermore, since the books are stored on the server for download, you can just browse over to the server that's hardcoded into the app and download the books other users sent in to convert. At least that was possible in the earlier versions; I haven't looked at it recently.

    And that's only the tip of the iceberg. Other problems are less serious but still quite veritable headaches.


    All in all, I very early on decided that the app will not go into the cloud; not even partially. What I instead plan to do is to eventually move the heavy-lifting stuff into a Java Service or an NPAPI plugin (like MotionApps Classic does). As soon as the v0.7.x series is stable, I'll ask Palm if something like that is possible while still being able to get admission into the app-store.

    We'll see.

    As far as the security store goes, it would be nice if it could be made to be a generic store. Something like a 1Password compatible keychain store would be fantastic. =)
    Well, for that I can only point you to Keyring, SecuStore or SafeBox.

    Personally, as far as applications are concerned, I like the Unix-approach: "One tool, one job". Especially since WebOS supports easy multitasking, and copy&paste.

    So, if I add any password management to the pReader, it will be geared exclusively to storing the passwords for books and will be kept simple and straightforward. Having two dedicated and highly polished tools is simply better than to have one tool that does both things at the cost of each other.
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    i have preader 0.7.0 installed and just found 0.7.1 in preware, but it doesn't offer me an update-button (only "launch" and "remove") ???
    btw. there's no hint inside the app, what version it is, the about-screen only says something about gpl.

    ps. i found that i have 0.7.1 installed (in "information/software"), but why then it's on the precentral-list as to be updated?
  5.    #305  
    Quote Originally Posted by conum View Post
    ps. i found that i have 0.7.1 installed (in "information/software"), but why then it's on the precentral-list as to be updated?
    No clue. All I do to be listed on PreWare is uploading a new ipkg file to PreCentral and setting the version number accordingly. Everything beyond that is out of my hands.

    If I had to guess, what probably happened was that you opened PreWare when the pReader on the list was still v0.7.0, but when you hit "update", I had just updated the list to v0.7.1; so that PreWare displayed v0.7.0 but installed 0.7.1. Just curious timing, I guess.


    P.S: And yeah, I didn't add a version display inside the app, since Palm offers a central point where you can look what version the app is. No need to needlessly duplicate functionality.
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    #306  
    Thanks again. Version 7.1 is working very well.
    Question - I still don't see images/cover art showing. Should I use HTML or text on the pdb files to show images (html I would suppose)?
    I haven't reloaded that many books as I just had to replace my Pre yesterday. But I've checked about 5 files known to have cover art, but none show.
    Is there a new setting in preferences?
  7.    #307  
    Quote Originally Posted by tamvegas View Post
    Thanks again. Version 7.1 is working very well.
    Question - I still don't see images/cover art showing. Should I use HTML or text on the pdb files to show images (html I would suppose)?
    I haven't reloaded that many books as I just had to replace my Pre yesterday. But I've checked about 5 files known to have cover art, but none show.
    Is there a new setting in preferences?
    At the moment, only those images are shown that are inlined into the text with the special image-tags of each format (\m="xyz" for eReader, <img recindex="xyz"> for PalmDOC/Mobipocket). Unfortunately, some books do not inline the book covers in that way. They seem to just assume that the Reader software knows which images ought to be the book covers and ought to be displayed in front of the text.

    Unfortunately, I have found no documentation about how eReader and Mobipocket actually define their book cover images. At the moment, they rest perfectly anonymous among the other images.


    But rest assured, support for them will come in one way or another. But not in the next few days, for ... obvious reasons.
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    Jappus - Understood and thanks for all the time and effort in this app.
    Patience is a virtue, and while I may not have many, that one is there.

    Happy Holidays to you, kind programmer!
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    Jappus, my scrolling doesn't look like the animated gif. Instead, the words mess up as it scrolls line by line. Thus, if I glance away or read the first line a little slower, I can no longer read the line even though the line is still on the page. Sometimes I have to stop the scrolling and go back a page so that I can read the first line. It's not a matter of the scroll being too fast. Simply that previous lines are no longer readable.
  10.    #310  
    Quote Originally Posted by bdhu2001 View Post
    Jappus, my scrolling doesn't look like the animated gif. Instead, the words mess up as it scrolls line by line. Thus, if I glance away or read the first line a little slower, I can no longer read the line even though the line is still on the page. Sometimes I have to stop the scrolling and go back a page so that I can read the first line. It's not a matter of the scroll being too fast. Simply that previous lines are no longer readable.
    Could you post a screenshot? That'd help me to understand and fix the problem. I have the slight suspicion that it could be related to the problem Sweety81 reported earlier.


    Thanks and happy holidays to all of you.
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    #311  
    Quote Originally Posted by Jappus View Post
    All in all, I very early on decided that the app will not go into the cloud; not even partially. What I instead plan to do is to eventually move the heavy-lifting stuff into a Java Service or an NPAPI plugin (like MotionApps Classic does). As soon as the v0.7.x series is stable, I'll ask Palm if something like that is possible while still being able to get admission into the app-store.
    Only what to thank you for that decision. I do not like to have all my data send to a server/service that I do not know what is happening there.
    By the way, I was not aware that the popelli reader is doing it that way. Is it documented in any way for the user? If not I would assume this as a critical point.

    HaPe
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaPe View Post
    By the way, I was not aware that the popelli reader is doing it that way. Is it documented in any way for the user? If not I would assume this as a critical point.
    Well, the Popelli Reader is labeled as "Closed Source", but since the source is never actually hidden on the device, you can still inspect it yourself, if you wish to. Of course, you could also always ask the developer himself. I'm sure he will answer your questions honestly. He's a rather nice guy.

    But as far as I know, there's no documentation for it, other than the source itself and what was said in its forum thread here on PreCentral. Of course, the same applies to the pReader, since I haven't yet found the time to document everything nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jappus View Post
    Could you post a screenshot? That'd help me to understand and fix the problem. I have the slight suspicion that it could be related to the problem Sweety81 reported earlier.


    Thanks and happy holidays to all of you.
    Thank you Jappus. I felt kind of foolish even mentioning it. I've attached the screen shots and appreciate any help you give.
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    #314  
    I haven't used the smooth scrolling before, but I just checked and I'm seeing the same thing. I tried with a .txt file, and a .pbd.

    HTH,
    -JerryG

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    It would be really awesome if you could use the space bar to page down in the app. That feels like the most natural way of scrolling down to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarirene View Post
    It would be really awesome if you could use the space bar to page down in the app. That feels like the most natural way of scrolling down to me.
    If you use the any key option in preferences, you can use the space bar to page down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarirene View Post
    It would be really awesome if you could use the space bar to page down in the app. That feels like the most natural way of scrolling down to me.
    You can set the paging keys in Preferences - just slide on down (down, down) to the "Scrolling" section. The green buttons are your answer...

    HTH,
    -JerryG
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryG View Post
    I haven't used the smooth scrolling before, but I just checked and I'm seeing the same thing. I tried with a .txt file, and a .pbd.

    HTH,
    -JerryG

    !Happy Holidays!
    Jappus and Jerry, I think I found the problem. When I was confirming the page down with space bar, it turned out that scroll preference wasn't checked. Thus, it scrolled, but not w/o messing up words. When I turned on Linear scroll mode in preferences and went back to my book, it worked perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdhu2001 View Post
    Jappus and Jerry, I think I found the problem. When I was confirming the page down with space bar, it turned out that scroll preference wasn't checked. Thus, it scrolled, but not w/o messing up words. When I turned on Linear scroll mode in preferences and went back to my book, it worked perfectly.
    Fixed it for me! Thanks!

    Happy Holidays!

    Cheers,
    -JerryG
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryG View Post
    You can set the paging keys in Preferences - just slide on down (down, down) to the "Scrolling" section. The green buttons are your answer...

    HTH,
    -JerryG
    Yikes, ok, that option is not in my preferences menu. And that would be because I haven't updated this app since 0.5.0 .. I assume if I find the ipk on precentral that is the latest version, but preware has not been alterting me to updates for this app (and I check it regularly). any idea what is going on there?


    edit: Never mind, I figured out what's going on. thanks for altering me to the issue!

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