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  1. strudel's Avatar
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    #141  
    Is anyone else having issues with Runtime on the new version? I installed the new version yesterday and have had the app running since then.

    Currently my runtime is listed as 38205908h36m45sec

    Anyone experiencing anything similar?
  2. #142  
    Yes, have the same effect
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    #143  
    Yes same problem with runtime being a large, random number.

    I also found that my battery usage went up significantly with the
    new version of Battery Monitor running while on standby. I've run
    the old version almost continuously for the last couple weeks, so I'm very
    well aware of what normal battery usage looks like, and the only thing that
    changed between yesterday and today is the new Battery Monitor app,
    and now my standby drain is significantly higher.
    I happened to have made a backup of my Pre yesterday so I'm
    reverting back to the old version and running it now (same interval),
    to verify this.

    BTW, other than accidentally back-swiping to stop logging, I liked
    the old UI better. I use detailed battery status *a lot*.

    ian
  4.    #144  
    hey guys, I think I may know why the running time is barfing and will be releasing a quick addendum release to resolve it.

    the detailed battery status is still accessible by the application menu. Also, if you are finding that you are losing more battery now, try changing the polling time. This was 10 minutes on the last version but is now 1 minute due to popular demand. There are no additional changes that would impact performance otherwise, in fact there were many changes to improve efficiency.
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    #145  
    I know the detailed status is in the menu. It's just a lot less convenient
    there if you use it a lot. I've used 1 minute polling quite often before
    so I don't think that's the cause of the increased drain, but I've
    rebooted, and am re-testing from scratch. I haven't changed anything else
    on the phone since yesterday.

    ian
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    #146  
    I think the power drain issue is resolved although I don't know what it was.
    I had nothing running but bat monitor. A reboot and full charge
    and it seems back to normal drain even polling at 60 second interval.

    Anyway, latest update 1.0.3 notes say that interval was changed to
    10 minutes. But it still shows 60 seconds, and verified
    that that's what it's initialized to in second-scene-assistant.jsjsjs

    I found an interesting side effect of having removed main-scene
    (the initial setup screen) from the workflow. Previously, when you
    wanted to change the interval, you'd swipe Back, and that'd stop the
    polling by destroying that whole second scene object, so when you chose
    a new interval it'd start with that one as soon as yous started polling again.

    Now if you change the interval, you have to wait for the power service delay
    timer to fire on the old interval before it'll change to the new one. So if you
    start it with app defaulted to 10 minutes, and then try to change it to say
    1 minute or 5 seconds, you have to wait 10 minutes before it'll start
    actually polling at the shorter interval.

    Is there a way to cancel the pending delay() call in com/palm/power service
    and set a new one at zero or the new interval, any time
    one of the intervalToggleXX cases are called? I tried a couple hacks
    to no avail, and I don't have the power service API in front of me.

    ian
  7.    #147  
    Hey, yeah I changed the delay back to 60 seconds in 1.0.3 but forgot to put release notes. This was the only change between 1.0.2 and 1.0.3.

    Updating the polling time to be able to change on the fly was a double edged sword in that the outstanding queued request has to finish before I can issue another one with a shorter delay.

    I haven't found a great way around this because jsjsjs $doesn$'$t$ $have$ $the$ $best$ $queue$/$threading$ $code$ - $and$ $I$'$m$ $not$ $sure$ $how$ $to$ $abandon$ $a$ $timer$.
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  8. #148  
    Awesome app, love to use it. The only things that I'd like are default preferences that can be set. I always like to have graphing on, and always have it set to 5 seconds, and it'd be nice to just have those be the automatic settings that it pulls from preferences.

    Also, a reset button. Previously I could swipe back, and restart the monitor if I pulled it off or put it on the charger. Now I have to swipe it away and go and find the icon and restart. If there could just be a way to put a button or something that could just zero everything out, that'd be great.

    Thanks for the awesome app!

    Edit: Oh and my temp got up to 53C last night. Highest it's ever been. Nice to have this to verify that it's not just my imagination that my hands are burning.
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    #149  
    Thanks for all your efforts in creating sure a great app!!

    The battery is if not THE weakest link to the Pre, is one of the weakest parts of the phone.

    Thanks for helping us better manage our use of it.
  10. #150  
    Thanks so much for this app!

    To me, it seems like it would be much more useful to plot the rate of power consumption, rather than the battery level. Also, in the new version I can't find a way to reset without closing and restarting the app (sorry if I missed the answer above, as I haven't read this whole thread).
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    #151  
    Hey neville,

    thanks for the updated version. finally I don't loose my data anymore by accidentally making a back gesture. though I would like a real settings panel more than the settings in the menu.
    I have one more feature request - if possible save the data you get on every poll and make it view- and exportable (csv maybe).
    Very often I find myself wondering which influence a single program has on the battery consume and with being able to see the changes from on poll to the next I could get a picture.

    thanks a lot and have great holidays
  12. #152  
    I looks like 3 months since anything has been posted here.
    I went and read up on the developers page and saw that he's moved on from updating this which is fine.

    Is there a reason why there is nobody talking about this?

    Does anyone know if the app itself wrears down the battery?
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    #153  
    Quote Originally Posted by detroitwilly View Post
    Is there a reason why there is nobody talking about this?
    There's nothing to talk about. It works the way it works, and is
    fairly self explanatory.

    Does anyone know if the app itself wrears down the battery?
    Yes if you set the interval too short.
    For long term monitoring you should use at least 5 minute polling interval.

    ian
  14. #154  
    Does the drain per hour or the remaining Life work on anybodies pixi. Because its not working on mine.
  15. #155  
    Having a disconnect between the reported battery % of the monitor and what the OS is reporting

    I have a Palm Pre Plus.

    Pre Monitor

    100% 95%
    99% 94%
    98% 94%
    97% 93%

    Anyone have any clue on this?
  16. #156  
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Payne View Post
    Having a disconnect between the reported battery % of the monitor and what the OS is reporting

    I have a Palm Pre Plus.

    Pre Monitor

    100% 95%
    99% 94%
    98% 94%
    97% 93%

    Anyone have any clue on this?
    Yes, Palm chose to not display the actual battery percent. There is a patch that will display the actual battery percent which I like.
  17. #157  
    So you are saying that when it's at 100 it's really not 100?
  18. #158  
    Quote Originally Posted by Major Payne View Post
    So you are saying that when it's at 100 it's really not 100?
    Pretty much, it will eventually truly reach 100%. That's why I have the patch, so I know when it's FULLY charged.
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    grumble oh well as long as it works.. WebOS isn't perfect but it suits my needs and wants
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    #160  
    The reason for the disconnect between 95-100%, is because of the way
    Lipo batteries charge. If you charge em up and keep em topped off right at
    100% they can be damaged, so they let you charge it up to 100%,
    and then it disconnects the charger, and lets it run down to about 95%
    before it starts charging again. It'll cycle up and down like that
    indefinitely all the while the UI% shows 100% to indicate that it's
    as high as it's going to let it get with the charger plugged in.

    ian
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