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bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 12:01 AM

Slashdot is running a story on a 80GB iPod touch.... amateurs

bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by globex

I tried to restart the phone again, and it worked afterwards. Strange.

Strange indeed.

globex · 04/09/2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bjgeiser

Slashdot is running a story on a 80GB iPod touch.... amateurs

Once the Pre supports Flac and I can stream lossless music that will be the best! Way better than any iPod!

Fabninja · 04/09/2010, 12:08 AM

I set the number of buffers to 2, and I set the timeout to 300 as per apache settings.

bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabninja

I set the number of buffers to 2, and I set the timeout to 300 as per apache settings.

How long did you give it to play? I have a 20 second timer, for when this happens. After 20 secs of not successfully playing the song it restarts it automatically.

You can actually see it happening, symptoms are the pause button is showing and the time isn't making any progress.

bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by globex

When the audio service fails and the song restarts, is there a way to get it to detect where the song failed and have the restarted song automatically start from the saved position so that songs don't restart from the beginning again?

Forgot to get this in the release notes. It should do what you described now.

Fabninja · 04/09/2010, 12:18 AM

Hmm I didn't give it that long. If it happens again I will give it more time to see if it restarts the song.

RollingHippy · 04/09/2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bjgeiser

The amount of buffers used has a much bigger dependency on the amount of compression (transcoding) you are using. WebOS only allows a finite amount of memory to be used for buffering, it stalls out once the app uses that memory up. So if you use more compression you can buffer more songs.

I haven't nailed down the memory limit yet. Its more than 10MB less than 30.

What's AppScope?

Ah, I didn't realize that the memory limit was the issue. I feel stupid now.

I meant AppScoop, which is Palm's "official" web and beta app channel.
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bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RollingHippy

Ah, I didn't realize that the memory limit was the issue. I feel stupid now.

I meant AppScoop, which is Palm's "official" web and beta app channel.
Palm USA | Palm webOS Applications | Mobile apps that go further.

At some point, I started to register but I stopped when they asked for a federal tax ID. Kinda silly for open source.

bhack · 04/09/2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by globex

Once the Pre supports Flac and I can stream lossless music that will be the best! Way better than any iPod!

You can stream lossless. Transcode your FLAC files to apple lossless (m4a) and they will play on the Pre.

globex · 04/09/2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bhack

You can stream lossless. Transcode your FLAC files to apple lossless (m4a) and they will play on the Pre.

Well yeah, that's what I'm doing now, but obviously transcoding down to mp3 defeats the purpose of having FLAC files. The quality sucks.

bhack · 04/09/2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by globex

Well yeah, that's what I'm doing now, but obviously transcoding down to mp3 defeats the purpose of having FLAC files. The quality sucks.

I said transcode to apple lossless, not mp3. There is zero loss in quality from a FLAC file to an apple lossless file. Apple lossless file will play on the Pre though, FLAC won't.

globex · 04/09/2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bhack

I said transcode to apple lossless, not mp3. There is zero loss in quality from a FLAC file to an apple lossless file. Apple lossless file will play on the Pre though, FLAC won't.

Alright, I'll give that a shot.

froggersloth · 04/09/2010, 11:19 AM

fwiw, I have to wonder about the value of playing lossless on the Pre. It has good sound quality, but I seriously doubt that the encoding format will be the limiting factor. There is a noticeable difference in quality between my Pre and my dedicated PMP played over UE10's.

bhack · 04/09/2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by froggersloth

fwiw, I have to wonder about the value of playing lossless on the Pre. It has good sound quality, but I seriously doubt that the encoding format will be the limiting factor. There is a noticeable difference in quality between my Pre and my dedicated PMP played over UE10's.

Really? I think the Pre has excellent sound quality. I believe it uses the same DAC as the iphone 3GS which is well regarded for its sound quality.

I use JH13 monitors connected to my Pre and certainly notice a difference between 192 and lossless. 320 and lossless is, of course, not as apparent. But if you've got the bandwidth (on wifi) might as well stream the highest quality you can.

No sense in me playing compressed music through my $1,100 monitors if I don't have to.

Just curious; what PMP do you use?

globex · 04/09/2010, 12:58 PM

The restarts after the audio service fails are working much better now bj. Thanks! However, can I suggest that the notification that comes up does so silently, when it plays the notification sound I always go to check to see if it's an email or something only to find out it's telling me the audio service failed (which I already assumed since my music stopped playing). Is it possible to have it show a notification, but with no sound?

Also, I'm getting about one audio service fails every 8-10 minutes. Is this normal? Are the audio fails bugs in WebOS? Is this something that could potentially be fixed with a patch of some sort?

bjgeiser · 04/09/2010, 10:49 PM

opps I put that in to try and debug your server, didn't mean for it to make it in.

I play all day with no errors. I still haven't had time to look into why yours might be failing more often.

mbetter · 04/10/2010, 12:42 AM

My audio service has been failing as well. Two days in a row, two different alphas, at the same time when I go underground to get on the subway.

globex · 04/10/2010, 01:50 PM

I've also noticed that the latest Alpha seems to be cutting off about a second off the end of the song. It's almost like it's trying to minimize the gap between songs, but instead ends up chopping off a bit of the song itself. If that's the case, I'd rather have a tiny gap between songs than have the end of the song get cut off.

Previous Alphas didn't do this.

bjgeiser · 04/10/2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by globex

I've also noticed that the latest Alpha seems to be cutting off about a second off the end of the song. It's almost like it's trying to minimize the gap between songs, but instead ends up chopping off a bit of the song itself. If that's the case, I'd rather have a tiny gap between songs than have the end of the song get cut off.

Previous Alphas didn't do this.

I didn't change anything related to how it switches tracks. Not sure what that would be.

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04/09/2010, 12:01 AM	#1001 (permalink)
bjgeiser Homebrew Developer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 505 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 14 Thanked 122 Times in 60 Posts	Slashdot is running a story on a 80GB iPod touch.... amateurs __________________ Ampache Mobile allows you to stream all YOUR music and videos from your computer to your phone. Please take a look a these Common Issues before posting to the Ampache Mobile thread.
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04/09/2010, 12:08 AM	#1004 (permalink)
Fabninja Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I set the number of buffers to 2, and I set the timeout to 300 as per apache settings.
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04/09/2010, 12:18 AM	#1007 (permalink)
Fabninja Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 16 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm I didn't give it that long. If it happens again I will give it more time to see if it restarts the song.
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04/09/2010, 11:19 AM	#1014 (permalink)
froggersloth Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 182 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 18 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts	fwiw, I have to wonder about the value of playing lossless on the Pre. It has good sound quality, but I seriously doubt that the encoding format will be the limiting factor. There is a noticeable difference in quality between my Pre and my dedicated PMP played over UE10's.
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04/09/2010, 12:58 PM	#1016 (permalink)
globex Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 160 Likes Received: 7 Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts	The restarts after the audio service fails are working much better now bj. Thanks! However, can I suggest that the notification that comes up does so silently, when it plays the notification sound I always go to check to see if it's an email or something only to find out it's telling me the audio service failed (which I already assumed since my music stopped playing). Is it possible to have it show a notification, but with no sound? Also, I'm getting about one audio service fails every 8-10 minutes. Is this normal? Are the audio fails bugs in WebOS? Is this something that could potentially be fixed with a patch of some sort? __________________ Bell Pre since August 27 2009 HP Touchpad since July 1 2011 Development/Design contribution to:
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04/09/2010, 10:49 PM	#1017 (permalink)
bjgeiser Homebrew Developer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 505 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 14 Thanked 122 Times in 60 Posts	opps I put that in to try and debug your server, didn't mean for it to make it in. I play all day with no errors. I still haven't had time to look into why yours might be failing more often.
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04/10/2010, 12:42 AM	#1018 (permalink)
mbetter Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 84 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	My audio service has been failing as well. Two days in a row, two different alphas, at the same time when I go underground to get on the subway.
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04/10/2010, 01:50 PM	#1019 (permalink)
globex Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 160 Likes Received: 7 Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts	I've also noticed that the latest Alpha seems to be cutting off about a second off the end of the song. It's almost like it's trying to minimize the gap between songs, but instead ends up chopping off a bit of the song itself. If that's the case, I'd rather have a tiny gap between songs than have the end of the song get cut off. Previous Alphas didn't do this. __________________ Bell Pre since August 27 2009 HP Touchpad since July 1 2011 Development/Design contribution to:
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