Instructional for beginners and Hello World 2.0! (Updated 7/16) - Page 4

joek71 · 07/17/2009, 03:50 PM

I have a dumb question:

palm-install com.yourdomain.hello_1.0_all.ipk

com.yourdomain <-- what is your domain what do i put in there?

SirataXero · 07/17/2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joek71

I have a dumb question:

palm-install com.yourdomain.hello_1.0_all.ipk

com.yourdomain <-- what is your domain what do i put in there?

haha not a dumb question at all. I was stuck on this myself for a while.

Actually you're not supposed to change that. Yet.

Type it in exactly as it shows you. You get to change that later on in your appinfo.json folder. for now just type in word for word "com.yourdomain.hello..."

It's meant for later on when you are in your appinfo.json file, you can enter in your vendor name, and id and other such things. At which point, the ipk file name will reflect those changes.

joek71 · 07/17/2009, 04:52 PM

Thank you very much, ok i have one more question i have this Javascript file that make a virtual keyboard, now i am stuck on what to do next, how do i incorperate everything so i can test it on the Emulator? I can email to anyone who wants it.

SirataXero · 07/17/2009, 05:14 PM

haha uh oh. This might be a bit more of a complicated question for me to answer. To start out on the emulator, all you should do is, rename the js file as "whatever-assistant.js" and throw it into the app/assistants folder of your application (in this case HelloWorld).

Open up the sources.json folder in the root folder of your application and include it in the list. You will see the formatting, just follow that but add your file name in it as well.

Package and Install. See what it does!

*edit*

This will include your js file into the app itself, but I'm not sure how you would call up this virtual keyboard and/or use it. You'll have to figure out the integration process yourself. Or maybe ask someone who actually knows what they're talking about. haha. Sorry!

joek71 · 07/17/2009, 05:42 PM

I not worried about intergration just yet, i am more worried about how to get in to the emulator, would you like the file to play with? if yes pm with your email and i will email to you

Converse420 · 07/18/2009, 07:31 PM

please god someone help me i am about two seconds away from blowing my face off. I cant figure out how to get a app on my phone. I have the SDK, java, vitrualbox, you name it i have it. But for somereason i never can get a app on there. when i go to comand prompt it goes to c:\documents and setting\all users instead of C:\ how do i get it into the main dic? any help would be sweet

palmdoc2005 · 07/18/2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Converse420

please god someone help me i am about two seconds away from blowing my face off. I cant figure out how to get a app on my phone. I have the SDK, java, vitrualbox, you name it i have it. But for somereason i never can get a app on there. when i go to comand prompt it goes to c:\documents and setting\all users instead of C:\ how do i get it into the main dic? any help would be sweet

If you are on Windows, I highly recommend going to Microsoft's Powertoys and installing the tool which allows you to open a "Command Prompt/Window" simply by right-clicking any folder and select "Open Command Window here" or something like that.
That would save alot of issuing cd ... commands within the command window.

So what I do is create a shortcut to the SDK/bin in my desktop (right click the sdk/bin folder and "send to Desktop"), just right click it and open a Command Window. From there I issue
palm-install x:\folderwhereyouripkis\*.ipk

SirataXero · 07/18/2009, 07:49 PM

Please don't blow your face off.

when in command prompt, just type "cd .." a couple times, it will go out into C:/

At that point, just type cd Palm/SDK... and the rest...

Good Luck!

Converse420 · 07/18/2009, 08:06 PM

I type cd like 20 times but it won't take me there. Palmdoc I'm going to try what tou said fingers crossed

SirataXero · 07/18/2009, 09:34 PM

did you type cd WITH the ".." after it?

You have to type those to tell the directory to go back...

remember... cd (space) .. (two dots).

If you have XP, PalmDoc's suggestion will work too.

Tibfib · 07/19/2009, 12:28 AM

HTMLDog is an awesome site... thanks for posting!

SirataXero · 07/19/2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tibfib

HTMLDog is an awesome site... thanks for posting!

Yeah it REALLY is. I learned the very basics from there and had a stable enough introduction to jump into WebOS immediately.

You're welcome.

Converse420 · 07/19/2009, 04:12 PM

ok so I am in the cmd and its now at c:\ and when i type palm\sdk\samplecode\tutorial it says that palm is not recoginzed as an interal or external command, operable program or batch file. *** does my palm need to be rooted i cant seem the figure this out. someone PM or something i really want to figure this out its driving me loco!!!!!!!!!!

SirataXero · 07/19/2009, 07:14 PM

First of all, you need to type:
[code]
cd Palm/SDK/samplecode/tutorial
[/code]

You need to say "cd" first to make sure the command prompt knows it has to GO into the other directory. Also, make sure you are capitalizing the right things. Palm, SDK both need to be capitalized, command prompt is case sensitive.

Hope this helps!

P.s. This is just for the emulator. This has nothing to do with you going into your Pre... yet... I would love to write another tutorial for that, but the good guys over at the Pre Dev Wiki have done a wonderful job of it. Also, I don't have a Pre so I can't speak by experience. What kind of a person writes a tutorial without actually doing it first, right?

tgo123 · 07/21/2009, 10:46 PM

sweet, guess i have plans for this weekend

Juggernaut1224 · 07/22/2009, 02:37 PM

Great tutorial

SirataXero · 07/22/2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgo123

sweet, guess i have plans for this weekend

Awesome! Good Luck! Make something cool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggernaut1224

Great tutorial

Why Thank you.

Malefickus · 07/23/2009, 05:27 PM

First off, I would like to make a small addition to SirataXero's tutorial. Instead of typing "cd.." multiple times, you can do "cd\" and it'll take you directly to the C:\> prompt. Without the quotes, of course.

Second, is I'd like to give a very, very huge Thank You to SirataXero for even making the tutorial. Because of his, I've began work on one that I want to make. I have a similar app on my iPod Touch (don't get mad I have an Apple device :P), but would prefer to have it on my Pre since I bring that with me to more places. I've been able to get a basic main page set up with what I want all due to the tutorial.

Well, it isn't fully set up, but I at least have placeholders for stuff for when I figure out how to do those things as well as get the data manipulated the way that I want it as well.

Another note for SirataXero. I see in your first-assitant and second-assistant that you have supposedly enabled landscape mode if the phone is rotated. That is not working on my Pre. Figured I'd give ya the heads up on that.

SirataXero · 07/23/2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malefickus

First off, I would like to make a small addition to SirataXero's tutorial. Instead of typing "cd.." multiple times, you can do "cd\" and it'll take you directly to the C:\> prompt. Without the quotes, of course.

Thanks! I KNEW there was a way to do it, but I was too lazy to ever look it up. I'll update the OP!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malefickus

Second, is I'd like to give a very, very huge Thank You to SirataXero for even making the tutorial. Because of his, I've began work on one that I want to make. I have a similar app on my iPod Touch (don't get mad I have an Apple device :P), but would prefer to have it on my Pre since I bring that with me to more places. I've been able to get a basic main page set up with what I want all due to the tutorial.

You're very welcome! I'm just glad I'm able to inspire others to do what I really want to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malefickus

Well, it isn't fully set up, but I at least have placeholders for stuff for when I figure out how to do those things as well as get the data manipulated the way that I want it as well.

Don't be shy to ask for help. Everyone on these forums, and the IRC channel are VERY helpful and always willing to give support. Well, most of us anyway. haha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malefickus

Another note for SirataXero. I see in your first-assitant and second-assistant that you have supposedly enabled landscape mode if the phone is rotated. That is not working on my Pre. Figured I'd give ya the heads up on that.

Thanks! I was wondering about that. I tried to copy oil's example in one of his threads but I think I messed up somewhere. If I had a Pre, I would try to get it working, but unfortunately, all I have to work with is the emulator. I don't really want to bother someone by constantly asking them to download and try out my revisions.

Thanks for the input though!

Good Luck!

chodaboy · 07/23/2009, 08:11 PM

For those familiar with IDEs (Interactive Development Environment), the Palm plug-in for Eclipse handles a lot of the work for you. Seems nice enough.

07/17/2009, 03:50 PM	#61 (permalink)
joek71 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 507 Likes: 0 Thanks: 31 Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts	I have a dumb question: palm-install com.yourdomain.hello_1.0_all.ipk com.yourdomain <-- what is your domain what do i put in there?
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07/17/2009, 04:52 PM	#63 (permalink)
joek71 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 507 Likes: 0 Thanks: 31 Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts	Thank you very much, ok i have one more question i have this Javascript file that make a virtual keyboard, now i am stuck on what to do next, how do i incorperate everything so i can test it on the Emulator? I can email to anyone who wants it.
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07/17/2009, 05:14 PM	Thread Author #64 (permalink)
SirataXero Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 1,738 Likes: 15 Thanks: 381 Thanked 398 Times in 217 Posts	haha uh oh. This might be a bit more of a complicated question for me to answer. To start out on the emulator, all you should do is, rename the js file as "whatever-assistant.js" and throw it into the app/assistants folder of your application (in this case HelloWorld). Open up the sources.json folder in the root folder of your application and include it in the list. You will see the formatting, just follow that but add your file name in it as well. Package and Install. See what it does! edit This will include your js file into the app itself, but I'm not sure how you would call up this virtual keyboard and/or use it. You'll have to figure out the integration process yourself. Or maybe ask someone who actually knows what they're talking about. haha. Sorry! __________________
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07/17/2009, 05:42 PM	#65 (permalink)
joek71 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 507 Likes: 0 Thanks: 31 Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts	I not worried about intergration just yet, i am more worried about how to get in to the emulator, would you like the file to play with? if yes pm with your email and i will email to you
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07/18/2009, 07:31 PM	#66 (permalink)
Converse420 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	please god someone help me i am about two seconds away from blowing my face off. I cant figure out how to get a app on my phone. I have the SDK, java, vitrualbox, you name it i have it. But for somereason i never can get a app on there. when i go to comand prompt it goes to c:\documents and setting\all users instead of C:\ how do i get it into the main dic? any help would be sweet
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07/18/2009, 07:49 PM	Thread Author #68 (permalink)
SirataXero Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 1,738 Likes: 15 Thanks: 381 Thanked 398 Times in 217 Posts	Please don't blow your face off. when in command prompt, just type "cd .." a couple times, it will go out into C:/ At that point, just type cd Palm/SDK... and the rest... Good Luck! __________________
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07/18/2009, 08:06 PM	#69 (permalink)
Converse420 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I type cd like 20 times but it won't take me there. Palmdoc I'm going to try what tou said fingers crossed
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07/18/2009, 09:34 PM	Thread Author #70 (permalink)
SirataXero Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 1,738 Likes: 15 Thanks: 381 Thanked 398 Times in 217 Posts	did you type cd WITH the ".." after it? You have to type those to tell the directory to go back... remember... cd (space) .. (two dots). If you have XP, PalmDoc's suggestion will work too. __________________
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07/19/2009, 12:28 AM	#71 (permalink)
Tibfib Homebrew Developer Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 346 Likes: 2 Thanks: 102 Thanked 67 Times in 45 Posts	HTMLDog is an awesome site... thanks for posting!
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07/19/2009, 04:12 PM	#73 (permalink)
Converse420 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Thanks: 11 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	ok so I am in the cmd and its now at c:\ and when i type palm\sdk\samplecode\tutorial it says that palm is not recoginzed as an interal or external command, operable program or batch file. *** does my palm need to be rooted i cant seem the figure this out. someone PM or something i really want to figure this out its driving me loco!!!!!!!!!!
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07/19/2009, 07:14 PM	Thread Author #74 (permalink)
SirataXero Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 1,738 Likes: 15 Thanks: 381 Thanked 398 Times in 217 Posts	First of all, you need to type: [code] cd Palm/SDK/samplecode/tutorial [/code] You need to say "cd" first to make sure the command prompt knows it has to GO into the other directory. Also, make sure you are capitalizing the right things. Palm, SDK both need to be capitalized, command prompt is case sensitive. Hope this helps! P.s. This is just for the emulator. This has nothing to do with you going into your Pre... yet... I would love to write another tutorial for that, but the good guys over at the Pre Dev Wiki have done a wonderful job of it. Also, I don't have a Pre so I can't speak by experience. What kind of a person writes a tutorial without actually doing it first, right? __________________
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07/21/2009, 10:46 PM	#75 (permalink)
tgo123 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Thanks: 22 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sweet, guess i have plans for this weekend
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07/22/2009, 02:37 PM	#76 (permalink)
Juggernaut1224 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great tutorial
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07/23/2009, 05:27 PM	#78 (permalink)
Malefickus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 34 Likes: 0 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	First off, I would like to make a small addition to SirataXero's tutorial. Instead of typing "cd.." multiple times, you can do "cd\" and it'll take you directly to the C:\> prompt. Without the quotes, of course. Second, is I'd like to give a very, very huge Thank You to SirataXero for even making the tutorial. Because of his, I've began work on one that I want to make. I have a similar app on my iPod Touch (don't get mad I have an Apple device :P), but would prefer to have it on my Pre since I bring that with me to more places. I've been able to get a basic main page set up with what I want all due to the tutorial. Well, it isn't fully set up, but I at least have placeholders for stuff for when I figure out how to do those things as well as get the data manipulated the way that I want it as well. Another note for SirataXero. I see in your first-assitant and second-assistant that you have supposedly enabled landscape mode if the phone is rotated. That is not working on my Pre. Figured I'd give ya the heads up on that. Last edited by Malefickus; 07/23/2009 at 05:34 PM.
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07/23/2009, 08:11 PM	#80 (permalink)
chodaboy Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 776 Likes: 7 Thanks: 92 Thanked 44 Times in 34 Posts	For those familiar with IDEs (Interactive Development Environment), the Palm plug-in for Eclipse handles a lot of the work for you. Seems nice enough.
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