My Tether - Tether over WiFi, USB, and BT. - Page 9

VitViper · 07/08/2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdmogren

It would be cool to add this as an option when you plug in usb so you'd have:
Tether
Media Sync
USB Drive
Just Charge

I had a mod for windows mobile that did that (minus the media sync).

That requires a modifying a Palm application... which could render the mod worthless anytime an update is applied.

SoupCanDrew · 07/08/2009, 02:54 PM

I hate to be a bother, but has there been any development on the the NON-rooting method for installing the webosinternals.services pack? I really don't want to root my Pre.

s4mb4 · 07/08/2009, 03:01 PM

@ home on my mac still no joy.
added adhoc PreNet to Airport with a static IP of 192.168.1.15 and nothing.....

VitViper · 07/08/2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4mb4

@ home on my mac still no joy.
added adhoc PreNet to Airport with a static IP of 192.168.1.15 and nothing.....

That's why I don't believe it to be a dhcp issue. Anytime I used PDAnet on the iphone I had a 169 address and everything was dandy.

tycoonbob · 07/08/2009, 03:09 PM

Tethering is one thing I miss from my HTC6900. I hope we can get it working through BT soon enough. =]

Keep up the good work.

tycoonbob · 03:09 PM

Sorry for DP

s4mb4 · 07/08/2009, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VitViper

That's why I don't believe it to be a dhcp issue. Anytime I used PDAnet on the iphone I had a 169 address and everything was dandy.

o, that is interesting....
But, did pdanet support pc --> wifi --> phone.. i do not think it did.
and networking 101 would indicate a 169 addy as a bad thing...
i will test some more and see what i can figure out. i have to take the kids to baseball now though.

sushi · 07/08/2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycoonbob

Tethering is one thing I miss from my HTC6900. I hope we can get it working through BT soon enough. =]

Keep up the good work.

It works through Bluetooth now.

VitViper · 07/08/2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s4mb4

o, that is interesting....
But, did pdanet support pc --> wifi --> phone.. i do not think it did.
and networking 101 would indicate a 169 addy as a bad thing...
i will test some more and see what i can figure out. i have to take the kids to baseball now though.

Yes_pdanet worked over wifi. The pc was the adhoc station though.

kenfly · 07/08/2009, 05:10 PM

this is FTW

zorinlynx · 07/08/2009, 06:04 PM

I just wanted to comment here because I keep seeing this, and liking this, but am nervous about how Sprint may react as more of us start tethering with our Pres. Remember, they hold the keys and if they insist that Palm put in some low level restriction on tethering, it is done for without major phone hacking.

I want to inject some reality into this situation.

Please, let's not abuse this. Let's not tether, and then proceed to run torrents on our laptops and push gigs and gigs through our evdo connections. Let's not spend hours on video skype or do huge WoW updates when tethered. Let's try to limit our use to simple web browsing, IM, VNC for work purposes, and so on; things that won't severely load Sprint's data network.

As much fun as all this stuff is, our ability to do it is truly at Sprint and Palm's whim; if they decide it's hurting their network, they WILL do something about it. And it's a battle we can't win.

Hack on, everyone.

volcom45 · 07/08/2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorinlynx

I just wanted to comment here because I keep seeing this, and liking this, but am nervous about how Sprint may react as more of us start tethering with our Pres. Remember, they hold the keys and if they insist that Palm put in some low level restriction on tethering, it is done for without major phone hacking.

I want to inject some reality into this situation.

Please, let's not abuse this. Let's not tether, and then proceed to run torrents on our laptops and push gigs and gigs through our evdo connections. Let's not spend hours on video skype or do huge WoW updates when tethered. Let's try to limit our use to simple web browsing, IM, VNC for work purposes, and so on; things that won't severely load Sprint's data network.

As much fun as all this stuff is, our ability to do it is truly at Sprint and Palm's whim; if they decide it's hurting their network, they WILL do something about it. And it's a battle we can't win.

Hack on, everyone.

Tethering is not something that Spring is going to notice or care about as long as you don't abuse it. If you use it on an occasional weekend away on your laptop to do a few things here or there, no big deal. If you start trying to download movies or torrents with it, shame on you! There was tethering on previous sprint phones. I used both PDA Net and USB Modem with my Treo 755P and never once received any additional charges. As long as you stay within your couple gigs per month data limit, they aren't going to care. Think about all of the data the PRE handles now, with youtube, sprint tv, etc. Just don't abuse it and we have nothing to worry about.

zorinlynx · 07/08/2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volcom45

Just don't abuse it and we have nothing to worry about.

I'm not worried so much about myself abusing it or necessarily you; I'm just worried about collective abuse that may lead Sprint or Palm to try to restrict it in a harsh way.

Individually if we abuse we'll probably get a call from Sprint. But if everyone starts abusing it, Sprint can't start kicking away customers en-masse. They'll have to fight tethering at the root: OS restrictions.

That's the direction I'm coming from, that we should all behave as a group. The oddball moron that downloads the entire run of Knight Rider will probably be dealt with Sprint directly.

mikesm · 07/08/2009, 06:41 PM

Ok, after rooting the phone and installing the webos library via root I can now say it works via BT. At my office I am roaming on VZ's 1X network, so the speed sucked, but will try it later from another location to see how it performs.

Thanks again!

Mustang46L · 07/08/2009, 06:59 PM

Works great! Thanks!

peestandingup · 07/08/2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorinlynx

I'm not worried so much about myself abusing it or necessarily you; I'm just worried about collective abuse that may lead Sprint or Palm to try to restrict it in a harsh way.

Individually if we abuse we'll probably get a call from Sprint. But if everyone starts abusing it, Sprint can't start kicking away customers en-masse. They'll have to fight tethering at the root: OS restrictions.

That's the direction I'm coming from, that we should all behave as a group. The oddball moron that downloads the entire run of Knight Rider will probably be dealt with Sprint directly.

If people abuse it, its their own *****. Sprint will just have to deal with them one on one.

As for tethering, there's nothing they could do about it. As long as the devices have online access, people will figure out a way to use their devices as an access point on a laptop. Its just the way it is. Its sorta like trying to fight digital piracy. Its a fight that cant be won.

So whether you use the data on your phone itself or tethering, its the same data coming down. Just dont start watching a bunch of HD videos, torrenting, etc & use it mildly, everything will be OK. Data is data, especially on high end phones like this that can do pretty much everything a laptop can do (just smaller screen, etc).

But of course they would have you believe you need to spend extra money on a separate usb dongle & another plan added on, we all know better.

OK, enough of the moral discussion (there are already plenty of threads covering this), lets see what we can do about getting wifi on this wonderful app functional.

roor · 07/08/2009, 08:04 PM

is there ANY way to get this to work w/o rooting?

ualdayan · 07/08/2009, 08:19 PM

I'd say if people abuse it Sprint WILL try to stop it. I'd also say it's almost impossible to stop 100% of people from doing something if they want to; the best you can hope for is that it remains somewhat difficult to limit the number of people who do it.

AT&T has a lot more reason to prevent tethering, and historically has locked down phones much more than Sprint. The Iphone didn't allow people near the access we have to the Pre, and yet even they couldn't prevent tethering programs from popping up.

rmarchant · 07/08/2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ualdayan

I'd say if people abuse it Sprint WILL try to stop it. I'd also say it's almost impossible to stop 100% of people from doing something if they want to; the best you can hope for is that it remains somewhat difficult to limit the number of people who do it.

I totally agree, that's why I personally hope that the installation continues to require rooting ... that additional complexity decreases the exposure of the app and in my view reduces the chances that Palm or Sprint will actively try to disable the app.

VitViper · 07/09/2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ualdayan

I'd say if people abuse it Sprint WILL try to stop it. I'd also say it's almost impossible to stop 100% of people from doing something if they want to; the best you can hope for is that it remains somewhat difficult to limit the number of people who do it.

AT&T has a lot more reason to prevent tethering, and historically has locked down phones much more than Sprint. The Iphone didn't allow people near the access we have to the Pre, and yet even they couldn't prevent tethering programs from popping up.

Personally I tethered my iphone all I wanted when os 3.0 came out. No hacks needed. Apple didn't lock anything... I just loaded a custom carrier profile using itunes. The pre is a linux device. Unless they strip iptables out of the os they can't stop tethering.

07/08/2009, 02:54 PM	#162 (permalink)
SoupCanDrew Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I hate to be a bother, but has there been any development on the the NON-rooting method for installing the webosinternals.services pack? I really don't want to root my Pre.
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07/08/2009, 03:01 PM	#163 (permalink)
s4mb4 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 157 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 27 Times in 12 Posts	@ home on my mac still no joy. added adhoc PreNet to Airport with a static IP of 192.168.1.15 and nothing.....
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07/08/2009, 03:09 PM	#165 (permalink)
tycoonbob Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Tethering is one thing I miss from my HTC6900. I hope we can get it working through BT soon enough. =] Keep up the good work.
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07/08/2009, 03:09 PM	#166 (permalink)
tycoonbob Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Sorry for DP Last edited by tycoonbob; 07/08/2009 at 03:09 PM. Reason: oopsies
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07/08/2009, 05:10 PM	#170 (permalink)
kenfly Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 36 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	this is FTW
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07/08/2009, 06:04 PM	#171 (permalink)
zorinlynx Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 195 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 41 Times in 20 Posts	I just wanted to comment here because I keep seeing this, and liking this, but am nervous about how Sprint may react as more of us start tethering with our Pres. Remember, they hold the keys and if they insist that Palm put in some low level restriction on tethering, it is done for without major phone hacking. I want to inject some reality into this situation. Please, let's not abuse this. Let's not tether, and then proceed to run torrents on our laptops and push gigs and gigs through our evdo connections. Let's not spend hours on video skype or do huge WoW updates when tethered. Let's try to limit our use to simple web browsing, IM, VNC for work purposes, and so on; things that won't severely load Sprint's data network. As much fun as all this stuff is, our ability to do it is truly at Sprint and Palm's whim; if they decide it's hurting their network, they WILL do something about it. And it's a battle we can't win. Hack on, everyone.
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07/08/2009, 06:41 PM	#174 (permalink)
mikesm Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 330 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 44 Times in 17 Posts	Ok, after rooting the phone and installing the webos library via root I can now say it works via BT. At my office I am roaming on VZ's 1X network, so the speed sucked, but will try it later from another location to see how it performs. Thanks again!
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07/08/2009, 06:59 PM	#175 (permalink)
Mustang46L Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 43 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Works great! Thanks!
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roor Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 142 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	is there ANY way to get this to work w/o rooting?
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07/08/2009, 08:19 PM	#178 (permalink)
ualdayan Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 76 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I'd say if people abuse it Sprint WILL try to stop it. I'd also say it's almost impossible to stop 100% of people from doing something if they want to; the best you can hope for is that it remains somewhat difficult to limit the number of people who do it. AT&T has a lot more reason to prevent tethering, and historically has locked down phones much more than Sprint. The Iphone didn't allow people near the access we have to the Pre, and yet even they couldn't prevent tethering programs from popping up.
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