Classic is gone w/ 2.0 - Will you miss it? [Poll]

ToddK · 04:45 PM

MotionApps Hands Classic Over to Palm

From the Classic blog....

We are sad to announce that Palm has removed Classic’s ROM from the new webOS 2.0 device ROM which will result in Classic not working if utilized with Palm’s new webOS 2.0.

This is contrary to our agreement with Palm and was done without our approval or consent. Based on this action, MotionApps will immediately stop selling Classic. However, as a courtesy to our clients, we will continue to support existing Classic customers on webOS 1.x for the immediate future.

becrazy2 · 10/25/2010, 03:59 AM

This is sad! I really hope Palm does something with it. It was the most expensive app! I still use it too, not as much as before.

They did add that they are giving Palm the app/info to make it compatible with 2.0.

ToddK · 10/25/2010, 04:00 AM

Well, I don't use it much, but I loved having all my old
Palm stuff available...

So, yeah, this stinks.

ToddK · 10/25/2010, 04:27 AM

but maybe there's hope...

more from the Classic blog...

Be that as it may, we believe in PalmOS and we want to do what we can to help Palm succeed in their future endeavors. So we decided to hand over the entire Classic source code and all of our accompanying IP to Palm so that Palm can do what they want to do with Classic and make it available with webOS 2.0.

Palm now has all the pieces to manage and control Classic's future.

Thank you all who supported us along the way and who love PalmOS the way we do.

MotionApps Team

gizmo21 · 05:09 AM

well at least it is very annoying how palm interacts with high class app developers.

It seems that after Documents-to.-go another big developer leaves the ship because of differences in app development with palm.

It's important to have the homebrew community embrassed, but more important marketing-wise is to get big developers on board.

mindonmillions08 · 10/25/2010, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo21

well at least it is very annoying how palm interacts with high class app developers.

It seems that after Documents-to.-go another big developer leaves the ship because of differences in app development with palm.

It's important to have the homebrew community embrassed, but more important marketing-wise is to get big developers on board.

Wasn't docs to go the ones that got bought out? If so it wasn't palm that made them leave...they didn't have a choice

[i]-- Sent from my Palm Pr

JohnnyPre · 10/25/2010, 07:40 AM

Docs2Go left before the buy out. D2G sucks businesswise.

mindonmillions08 · 10/25/2010, 07:45 AM

O well they got replaced anyway and the one that's goin in webos 2.0 sounds better

Edit: docs2go that is..got replaced
[i]-- Sent from my Palm Pr

gizmo21 · 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindonmillions08

Wasn't docs to go the ones that got bought out? If so it wasn't palm that made them leave...they didn't have a choice

[i]-- Sent from my Palm Pr

Well at least they released Docs to Go 4.0 for iphone AND 3.0 for Android after the buyout. So they HAD a choice, but said they were forced by palm because of not being cooperative in development:

http://www.dataviz.com/products/docu...alhurdles.html

If all that is 100% true or not it at least shows that palm has difficulties getting big developers.

malpha · 10/25/2010, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindonmillions08

Wasn't docs to go the ones that got bought out? If so it wasn't palm that made them leave...they didn't have a choice

[i]-- Sent from my Palm Pr

Nah, before they got bought out, they made some blog post basically stating that they had't released Docs2Go because Palm was not cooperating fully and giving them the resources that they needed.

sinime · 10/25/2010, 08:20 AM

LOL, have to wonder if the only thing that mad the 2.0 boot time faster was removing the classic ROM???

Edit: come to think of it, was the classic ROM allways loaded in the background, using up ram or only loaded when classic was opened?

ToniCipriani · 10/25/2010, 08:27 AM

Well it had to go eventually. Palm can't continue to license a 8-year old from ACCESS

Guess that means I have to say goodbye to Bejeweled (though I haven't played it for some time, busy with TileStorm), and accelerate to move my passwords from Yaps to SecuStore.

Though it would be nice if Popcap would port it...

sinime · 10/25/2010, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToniCipriani

Well it had to go eventually. Palm can't continue to license a 8-year old from ACCESS

Guess that means I have to say goodbye to Bejeweled (though I haven't played it for some time, busy with TileStorm), and accelerate to move my passwords from Yaps to SecuStore.

Though it would be nice if Popcap would port it...

Don't give up on Bejeweled.... It may run with Flash off of Facebook, won't know till 2.0 comes out though.

ToniCipriani · 10/25/2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinime

Don't give up on Bejeweled.... It may run with Flash off of Facebook, won't know till 2.0 comes out though.

I hate Facebook with a passion.

sinime · 10/25/2010, 08:40 AM

About all I do is play Bejeweled Blitz on it. I update my status, maybe once a month.

Codon 66 · 10/25/2010, 08:52 AM

Arrrgggghhh!!!!

bitmage · 10/25/2010, 08:54 AM

For me, this is a disaster. I use Classic daily for DateBk6, HanDBase, and eWallet. I have tons of information in HanDBase, and eWallet is a work requirement. If Classic is gone, then I can't move to 2.0.

The sad thing is that I could switch to Android - HanDBase and eWallet are both available as native apps!

If 2.0 is going to be pushed out as a forced install like the updates are, I'm in trouble. HP, please continue Classic!

MDsmartphone · 10/25/2010, 09:17 AM

@bitmage,

the ewallet app on android is read only, you can not put entries into it.

sinime · 10/25/2010, 09:17 AM

Could Palm repackage the ROM with the app and make all right in the world? While I've never used it, I would be a little upset with Palm if I did.

ChasT · 10/25/2010, 09:19 AM

I still use Classic on my Pre.
- I use Metro, as it's the only offline London Tube journey planner for the Pre.
- I use HotSync, as it enables me to maintain my Contacts c/w Categories between two PC's with Outlook, as well as Tasks and Memos which then work with Pocketmirror on my Pre.

I would have thought that a PalmPad would have been an ideal platform for Classic under webOS ?

Get onto Twitter and tell @webOSdev and @Palm what you think, I have

View Poll Results: Do you use Classic? Will you miss Classic?
No I do not use Classic	157	52.51%
Yes I use Classic	79	26.42%
No I will not miss Classic	98	32.78%
Yes I will miss Classic	87	29.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll

10/25/2010, 03:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
ToddK Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 664 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 539 Thanked 104 Times in 71 Posts	Classic is gone w/ 2.0 - Will you miss it? [Poll] MotionApps Hands Classic Over to Palm From the Classic blog.... We are sad to announce that Palm has removed Classic’s ROM from the new webOS 2.0 device ROM which will result in Classic not working if utilized with Palm’s new webOS 2.0. This is contrary to our agreement with Palm and was done without our approval or consent. Based on this action, MotionApps will immediately stop selling Classic. However, as a courtesy to our clients, we will continue to support existing Classic customers on webOS 1.x for the immediate future. Last edited by HelloNNNewman; 10/26/2010 at 04:45 PM. Reason: title updated
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10/25/2010, 03:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
becrazy2 Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 285 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 182 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	This is sad! I really hope Palm does something with it. It was the most expensive app! I still use it too, not as much as before. They did add that they are giving Palm the app/info to make it compatible with 2.0.
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10/25/2010, 04:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
ToddK Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 664 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 539 Thanked 104 Times in 71 Posts	Well, I don't use it much, but I loved having all my old Palm stuff available... So, yeah, this stinks.
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10/25/2010, 04:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
ToddK Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 664 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 539 Thanked 104 Times in 71 Posts	but maybe there's hope... more from the Classic blog... Be that as it may, we believe in PalmOS and we want to do what we can to help Palm succeed in their future endeavors. So we decided to hand over the entire Classic source code and all of our accompanying IP to Palm so that Palm can do what they want to do with Classic and make it available with webOS 2.0. Palm now has all the pieces to manage and control Classic's future. Thank you all who supported us along the way and who love PalmOS the way we do. MotionApps Team
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10/25/2010, 05:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
gizmo21 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 949 Likes Received: 33 Thanks: 128 Thanked 131 Times in 104 Posts	well at least it is very annoying how palm interacts with high class app developers. It seems that after Documents-to.-go another big developer leaves the ship because of differences in app development with palm. It's important to have the homebrew community embrassed, but more important marketing-wise is to get big developers on board. __________________ Palm Pre 3 webOS 2.2.4 3175 EU UMTS Palm Pre 2 webOS 2.2.4 160 EU UMTS Palm Pre - webOS 1.4.5 EU UMTS Found a bug or miss a feature in webOS, just use this form: ~~Feedback & Feature Requests \| Palm USA~~ -- Oops, sorry HP does not offer a Feedback form anymore send feature request to CEO Last edited by gizmo21; 10/25/2010 at 05:09 AM.
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10/25/2010, 07:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
JohnnyPre Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 920 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 16 Thanked 91 Times in 78 Posts	Docs2Go left before the buy out. D2G sucks businesswise.
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10/25/2010, 07:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
mindonmillions08 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 118 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 2 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	O well they got replaced anyway and the one that's goin in webos 2.0 sounds better Edit: docs2go that is..got replaced [i]-- Sent from my Palm Pr
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10/25/2010, 08:20 AM	#11 (permalink)
sinime Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,308 Likes Received: 45 Thanks: 103 Thanked 257 Times in 194 Posts	LOL, have to wonder if the only thing that mad the 2.0 boot time faster was removing the classic ROM??? Edit: come to think of it, was the classic ROM allways loaded in the background, using up ram or only loaded when classic was opened?
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10/25/2010, 08:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
ToniCipriani Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 3,688 Likes Received: 266 Thanks: 185 Thanked 429 Times in 336 Posts	Well it had to go eventually. Palm can't continue to license a 8-year old from ACCESS Guess that means I have to say goodbye to Bejeweled (though I haven't played it for some time, busy with TileStorm), and accelerate to move my passwords from Yaps to SecuStore. Though it would be nice if Popcap would port it... __________________ Palm IIIc -> Sony CLIÉ T650C -> Sony TJ-37 -> Palm TX -> Palm Centro -> Palm Pre Bell -> Palm Pre Plus Bell/Verizon Hybrid -> HP Veer -> HP Pre 3 NA I nominate Leo Apotheker to be a Darwin Award laureate. Need OEM Palm Pre parts? See here
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10/25/2010, 08:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
sinime Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,308 Likes Received: 45 Thanks: 103 Thanked 257 Times in 194 Posts	About all I do is play Bejeweled Blitz on it. I update my status, maybe once a month. __________________ Fire Sale! Beer Knurd
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10/25/2010, 08:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
Codon 66 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 26 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 18 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Arrrgggghhh!!!!
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10/25/2010, 08:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
bitmage Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 139 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 50 Times in 16 Posts	Wait! I need Classic! For me, this is a disaster. I use Classic daily for DateBk6, HanDBase, and eWallet. I have tons of information in HanDBase, and eWallet is a work requirement. If Classic is gone, then I can't move to 2.0. The sad thing is that I could switch to Android - HanDBase and eWallet are both available as native apps! If 2.0 is going to be pushed out as a forced install like the updates are, I'm in trouble. HP, please continue Classic! __________________ Palm IIIx-->Palm Vx-->Kyocera 6035-->Kyocera 7135-->Treo 650-->Treo 700p-->Pre
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10/25/2010, 09:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
MDsmartphone Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,418 Likes Received: 71 Thanks: 20 Thanked 236 Times in 129 Posts	@bitmage, the ewallet app on android is read only, you can not put entries into it.
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10/25/2010, 09:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
sinime Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,308 Likes Received: 45 Thanks: 103 Thanked 257 Times in 194 Posts	Could Palm repackage the ROM with the app and make all right in the world? While I've never used it, I would be a little upset with Palm if I did. __________________ Fire Sale! Beer Knurd
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10/25/2010, 09:19 AM	#20 (permalink)
ChasT Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,524 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 54 Thanked 66 Times in 51 Posts	I still use Classic on my Pre. - I use Metro, as it's the only offline London Tube journey planner for the Pre. - I use HotSync, as it enables me to maintain my Contacts c/w Categories between two PC's with Outlook, as well as Tasks and Memos which then work with Pocketmirror on my Pre. I would have thought that a PalmPad would have been an ideal platform for Classic under webOS ? Get onto Twitter and tell @webOSdev and @Palm what you think, I have __________________ Thought of the day : No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway
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