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Old 02/25/2013, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've brought this up a couple of times. IIRC, the root certificate for app signing and certain cloud services will expire in July. I don't know if services will cease working when that date's gone past, but in any case, we need a new certificate. Now that LG is the new owner of webOS, and they say they will keep supporting existing webOS devices, what better way to show commitment than to prevent potential catastrophic denial of service? I'll be waiting for an update on my TouchPad in June. If one's not provided by then, we'll know they're just blowing us off. Maybe they should be reminded about the fact first.
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Old 02/25/2013, 11:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've brought this up a couple of times. IIRC, the root certificate for app signing and certain cloud services will expire in July. I don't know if services will cease working when that date's gone past, but in any case, we need a new certificate. Now that LG is the new owner of webOS, and they say they will keep supporting existing webOS devices, what better way to show commitment than to prevent potential catastrophic denial of service? I'll be waiting for an update on my TouchPad in June. If one's not provided by then, we'll know they're just blowing us off. Maybe they should be reminded about the fact first.
I'm still wondering where this came from.
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Old 02/25/2013, 12:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It's up to HP to support us, so don't expect anything any updates.

"According to HP COO Bill Veghte, LG will acquire the source code, documentation, websites, and team behind the client side of webOS, but HP will retain the entire cloud services division — that's the App Catalog, updating system, and other backend services that interact with webOS."
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Old 02/25/2013, 12:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just saw the latest report, and the onus is still on HP. I wonder how it'll play out.
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Old 02/25/2013, 02:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hehe an update for 1.x devices would be a surprise for those not reading this forum
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Old 02/25/2013, 08:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Why don't you ask Enda McGrath about this (twitter the question)?

It would be cool if LG came out with their webOS tv and then had an app for existing touchpad users to control it.
I wonder how many LG people bought that firesale touchpad and then realized they liked webOS.
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Old 02/26/2013, 11:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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A release of LG drivers for open webOS would also be a good starting point.
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Old 02/26/2013, 11:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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A release of LG drivers for open webOS would also be a good starting point.
But the problem is that most hardware drivers are written by the hardware component makers --- i.e. your pc's sound card driver is written by the sound card chipset maker, not Microsoft --- and they are proprietary. LG doesn't have the right to release the source code.
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Old 02/27/2013, 12:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Seems that we don't need to worry about the root certs: https://twitter.com/endamcgrath/stat...49508647190528

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Old 02/27/2013, 12:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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But the problem is that most hardware drivers are written by the hardware component makers --- i.e. your pc's sound card driver is written by the sound card chipset maker, not Microsoft --- and they are proprietary. LG doesn't have the right to release the source code.
So Ubutunu got the the nexus 4 drivers how? Just asking..

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Old 02/27/2013, 02:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So Ubutunu got the the nexus 4 drivers how? Just asking..
Maybe they use the same drivers as already available for Android? Open webOS has kernel 3.3+ for which no manufacturer has released proper drivers as of yet. (All due to Android being only on 3.0.x still, when Android would be on 3.3+ there would be for sure less issues to get OWO running because the Android drivers could be used more easily).
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Old 02/27/2013, 05:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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So Ubutunu got the the nexus 4 drivers how? Just asking..
Ubuntu Touch is simply a user interface layer on top of a full cyanogenmod android base layer.

So the nexus 4 drivers are there and working because all of that part is unchanged from android.

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Old 02/27/2013, 06:13 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Seems that we don't need to worry about the root certs: https://twitter.com/endamcgrath/stat...49508647190528

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Old 02/27/2013, 11:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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So Ubutunu got the the nexus 4 drivers how? Just asking..
Nexus 4 uses Qualcomm S4 Pro chip.

In order for Qualcomm to drum up more business and make it easier for handset makers to make smartphones in less time --- Qualcomm writes the graphics drivers for the Adreno 320 GPU and offer them to the handset makers. So Google and LG both don't have the right to open source the graphics driver --- because it is a proprietary Qualcomm driver.

The same goes to the audio card driver, the gyroscope driver, the touchpad sensor driver, the wifi driver, the GPS driver... --- they are all written by the chipset component manufacturers.
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Old 02/27/2013, 12:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Atheros drivers seem pretty common. It's the firmware that's hard to figure out.
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Old 03/05/2013, 04:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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https://twitter.com/endamcgrath/stat...49508647190528

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@endamcgrath Is the team aware of the imminent expiry of #webOS app signing root certs? Will they get updated? If so, ETA?
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Old 03/05/2013, 10:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think 3 Posts of the Tweet is now enough


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Old 03/06/2013, 08:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I guess I'm the only one asking the important question:
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@endamcgrath @GMMan_BZFlag So will the palm pixi plus final get #webOS 2.0 on it as HP WebOS official website advertises?
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