And that reputation killed off webOS as a true competitor in mobile. Perhaps permanently. Evidenced by the Palm/HP expose on the birth through (close enough to) death of webOS on The Verge, many people within Palm and HP involved in creating the OS even felt largely the same way--that they just couldn't get it up to the speed webOS would demand in order to match the performance of Android and iOS.
Originally Posted by laingman
And while they worked to fix some of that in 2.x with the switch from Java to Node, they couldn't do it fast enough, nor keep developers interested because of the buggy/deficient APIs, continued performance issues, and sheer lack of API documentation. Not to mention a dwindling user base even in mid-2010. The Touchpad and Veer, in retrospect, were just a defibrillator acting to add a few months to the inevitable due to the lack of leadership and vision at the top.
And once developers aren't interested, you no longer get the apps that attract people.
And once you can't get the apps that attract people, you're stuck with people who are so attached to the idea of the OS rather than the execution that they just don't care what happens, so long as the OS stays alive.
And...here's the present day: The OS is still on life support, 99% of the developers have left, no current top-tier applications are on the platform (nor are they coming), and all that's left are the people in love with the idea of the OS rather than the actual execution to the level most influential smartphone users now expect of their devices.
And only three things count in the mobile world: Apps, hardware, and OS execution. Miss either one of those, and you're toast. People never came here to evaluate their smartphone choices; they went to places like Engadget, Verge, Gizmodo, BGR, etc. where webOS was just another OS, and one that couldn't keep up so they couldn't recommend it...so it died off because webOS missed (and continues to miss) on all counts in the eyes of pretty much everyone outside of this forum...and the few remaining webOS users that (for some reason) don't come here.
Josh had it right, honestly. Don't let "webOS-colored glasses" keep you from understanding the context of the praise. Good ideas very often come from failed products. By any rational marketplace evaluation, webOS is a massively failed retail product and platform from top to bottom whether you agree or not.
It's just reality, and in a 2013 world of iPhone 5s and quad-core, 2GB RAM, NFC-carrying superphones and tablets with 1080p displays, webOS just has nothing out there to even get the bat of some random person's eye until hardware comes out for the platform with full developer support and full support of the cutting edge in the market.
Anything less and you're just ****ing into the wind, my friend.
Look at the crawling adoption rate of WP7/8 and the complete "meh" response to BB10, and then consider what chance an OS with zero retail presence has when 3rd and 4th places can't even get a foothold with billions of dollars being spent on OEM support, developer giveaways, conferences, developer relations, celebrity endorsements, and constant barrages of advertising.
Now tell me a single initiative webOS has going for it that can even come close to matching the parameters for marketplace success without sounding like you exist in some alternate reality while at the same time having zero relevant industry sector business experience.