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Old 12/14/2012, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I know cloud services for webOS include backups and App Catalog, but I can't think of anything else other than software updates and a little bit of device management. What else are there?
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Old 12/14/2012, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12/14/2012, 11:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Do they use it as an all-encompassing term that includes other services the device uses, like box.net, google, etc...?
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Old 12/14/2012, 11:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Do they use it as an all-encompassing term that includes other services the device uses, like box.net, google, etc...?
isnt synergy just the "thing" that single handedly manages lots of other stuff in a uniform manner? Same as the datatypes system the amiga workbench uses. The frontman that handles the masses.
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Old 12/14/2012, 11:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Backup management, webOS accounts, App Catalog are probably the big parts. There's probably some other stuff too.

Oh, yeah, OTA system too.
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Old 12/14/2012, 11:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Synergy?

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Synergy is more or less a local aggregator that uses other web services as sources. I'm only counting webOS specific services,
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Old 12/14/2012, 01:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Synergy is more or less a local aggregator that uses other web services as sources. I'm only counting webOS specific services,
Isn't it webOS specific then? I can't recall that someone ported/created Synergy on some other OS.
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Old 12/14/2012, 02:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Isn't it webOS specific then? I can't recall that someone ported/created Synergy on some other OS.
Yes, but Synergy doesn't rely on a cloud server to process the data. It's done locally, not through HP's servers, hence not really a cloud service.
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Old 12/14/2012, 02:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Isn't it webOS specific then? I can't recall that someone ported/created Synergy on some other OS.
Synergy is mostly just Palm's name for the merging of contacts, calendars, etc for different accounts. I think it also describes the on-device method of managing those accounts and their permissions. Either way, it is not part of Palm/HP's cloud services. It isn't something unique to webOS -- other OS's do it too -- but Palm's always felt "nicer". It's hard to describe. Linked contacts in Android always felt more cumbersome, but probably just because I had experienced webOS first.
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Old 12/15/2012, 01:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, Syngery combines all of it, that's not something other OS'es do normally (yes, OSX and Ubuntu 12.10 but I'm talking mobile here).
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Old 12/15/2012, 02:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Backup management, webOS accounts, App Catalog are probably the big parts. There's probably some other stuff too.

Oh, yeah, OTA system too.
App version check and update notification...

<edit: I mention it because it happens independently of visits to the App Catalog.>
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Old 12/15/2012, 03:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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App version check and update notification...

<edit: I mention it because it happens independently of visits to the App Catalog.>
I was going to mention that too, only thing that has remained missing on the "WebOS Account" has been the ability to sync not only apps, contacts, ' BUT PHOTOS or MUSIC ' like iCloud for iOS operating system for Apple devices. It was weird that even the WebOS Team didn't included that functionality long ago.....
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Old 12/16/2012, 07:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Music isn't synced on iOS. You can control iTunes from you iOS device. But you can also do that on the Touchpad with Retune.

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Old 12/16/2012, 07:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Contacts, calendar, tasks, and memos, though that could simply just fall under backup services
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Old 12/16/2012, 08:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Contacts, calendar, tasks, and memos, though that could simply just fall under backup services
yeah, technically its part of the backup process. Any database marked backup true is automatically backed up. Its a great feature for developers but I don't know if anyone knew of it


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Old 01/02/2013, 06:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
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wasn't that _sync=true? I think that is what I tried once... it's working quite nice and all your stuff comes back after a profile restore. Of course it is not synced between devices, so "backup" would be more accurate.

I think the _sync field was described somewhere on developer.palm.com. It really is a great feature and I think some apps use it (like some of them never seem to forget my logins or settings or other data).
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Old 01/02/2013, 09:14 AM   #17 (permalink)
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yes it's a db8 feature:

db8 - HP webOS Developer Center - https://developer.palm.com/content/a.../mojo/db8.html
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Where is the db8 database file stored? Is it on "/media/internal", so the user can back it up?

It is stored on "/var/db". By setting "sync":true when calling "putKind", you can have Palm back up data objects of that kind. Data is backed up on a daily basis.
Can be checked in impostah - Database - Database entry eg. one in note:1

This would be a great way to backup/sync app-data to a self-hosted cloud service in Openwebos *hint*

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