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    Hi all,

    FYI. See link.

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    Jay

    9/06/2011 @ 9:26AM |871 views
    Samsung Could Use WebOS To Take On Apple
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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspe...take-on-apple/

    According to a recent report from DigiTimes, Samsung could be interested in picking up Hewlett-Packard’s webOS business to help muster up its software platform as it looks to beef up its software platform against Apple. [1]

    A few days back, H-P announced its plans to spin off its PC business and scrap the webOS software that powered devices like the Palm Pre and TouchPad. In our earlier note titled H-P’s Decision to Scrap webOS Signifies iPad’s Dominance, we discussed how H-P was finding it difficult to cope up with the iPad challenge, and scrapping of webOS is another reminder that many tablet makers are struggling to match the popularity of the iPad.
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    You mean just like Palm tried and failed? You mean like HP, the biggest tech company in the world, spent billions of dollars on and tried and failed?

    Are you missing the pattern here?
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    Windows 8 is going to destroy the iPad... ha, ha, ha... can't wait.

    It will be like Linux netbooks... remember those?
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    I doubt HP spent billions on developing webOS
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    Samsung DOESNOT want to take on webOS . Its CEO said Never.
    If this helped you hit thanks.
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    Is that article really saying Samsung could match the popularity of the iPad by adopting the unpopular webOS operating system?

    No wonder the article lacks a proper byline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey47 View Post
    You mean just like Palm tried and failed? You mean like HP, the biggest tech company in the world, spent billions of dollars on and tried and failed?

    Are you missing the pattern here?
    Palm didn't have the money to succeed. As for HP, they didn't really try. (They cancelled the TouchPad after 8
    weeks.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkhanmd View Post
    Samsung DOESNOT want to take on webOS . Its CEO said Never.
    CEOs say a lot of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkhanmd View Post
    Samsung DOESNOT want to take on webOS . Its CEO said Never.
    I thought he said never to purchasing webOS, not licensing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMark View Post
    I thought he said never to purchasing webOS, not licensing it.
    With such a strong statement against buying webOS, it's as good as saying they wouldn't license it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosdl View Post
    I doubt HP spent billions on developing webOS

    Silicone Valley just like Hollywood has what I will politely call creative accounting....

    They will claim $1.2 billion for Palm which atuclaly was for webOS...then they'll dump all of the money the spent on HP's short lived romance with webOS...and all of the losses on the Pre2, Pre3, Veer and the TouchPad...as well as production costs of making all of those items...

    If they are creative about it...I'm sure it's billions....

    After all, when all was said and done with the movie "Forrest Gump", ticket sales, video rentals, Pay per View and sold to Premium channels, video sales, re-released on DVD from VHS...when it came to giving the author of the book a cut of the loot, the studio claimed it didn't make a dime ...even though it Worldwide ticket sales came to: $677,387,716.00, (that doesn't count video rentals, Pay per View and sold to Premium channels, video sales, re-released on DVD from VHS)....

    If Hollywood could be so creative, why can't HP???

    PS. Winston Groom, the author of the book Forrest Gump sued and won a huge chunk of money from a movie the studio...the studio still insists they lost money on...even though it cost $55 million to make and a Hollywood rule of thumb is that a movie generally costs the equal of making it, (in this case another $55 million), for duplication of the film, delivery by armed guards to the theater, advertisement, etc.....(BTW, Mr. Groom wrote a second Forrest Gump book, where his story is sold to the movies, but he gets even with the "creative accounting studio heads")...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkhanmd View Post
    Samsung DOESNOT want to take on webOS . Its CEO said Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mosdl View Post
    I doubt HP spent billions on developing webOS
    Easily. $1.2B for Palm. And there is no way you can say they didn't spend $800M over the last year and a half on the Pre 2, Pre 3, and TouchPad.

    Sure you can argue that all that wasn't on "just" webOS, but there is no way to separate it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMark View Post
    Palm didn't have the money to succeed. As for HP, they didn't really try. (They cancelled the TouchPad after 8
    weeks.)
    They've had Palm for a year and a half. You can't just say they didn't give it a chance, they blew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMark View Post
    Palm didn't have the money to succeed. As for HP, they didn't really try. (They cancelled the TouchPad after 8
    weeks.)
    Hi all,

    StuntmanMark...you are far to polite....HP didn't have the brains to succeed with webOS....

    1. Over Ruby's repeated objections...They used an older design for the TouchPad....loosely based on the Windows tablet that they decided not to make.

    2. Announced products months and months before they should have.

    3. Leo then makes a speech and says we only announce things just before they will be released.

    4. They had already delayed it so long, why no wait to 3.1.1 was ready...which would have bought them far better reviews.

    5. They should have put an ad with the iPad side by side, while saying we may be slightly thicker and heaver but that's because we have WIRELESS AKA magnetic induction charging AKA Touch Stone.

    6. The ads should have showed the Touch to share tech with a Veer and and a Pre3.

    7. Should have worked closely with a number of the users/posters to this site and asked what we thought the TouchPad, veer, Pre2 and Pre3 needed and to test it.

    8. They also failed to talk up what true multitasking is and why webOS is the only app that actually does so and does have full email capability unlike the Playbook.

    9. they should have been willing to cut a deal with Amazon and said it you use webOS on your tablet....we will cut a very, very favorable deal with you....plus Amazon has a huge pipeline. Having webOS on Amazon would give webOS a very high public acknowledgment..

    Plus it turns out that the Amazon tablet is basically going to run Android in the background with Amazon's own OS working on top of Android.....that should easily have been webOS...

    10. They promised to port apps with HP supplying free labor to do so....they also promised to have tons of apps written, even if it had to do it themselves.

    11. Unless I am wrong, Leo doesn't have a background in hardware...which meant he should have made sure that everyone having anything to do with buying Palm did!

    12. HP has long ago stopped innovating and has a long history of buying firms and then killing them off....Leo ET AL have a fudicary responsibly to too look out for the value to the stock.....killing off webOS hardware and jettisoning the PC business caused HP to take a financial pounding...

    Leo this isn't SAP...why couldn't HP go back to making the Rolls Royce of PC and webOS products....a slimmer profit margin in PC's doesn't mean you have to get out of the business..no instead ruin webOS and your PC line by making rash and foolish choices without fully thinking it out first!

    13. Apple currently is the 800 pound gorilla..why in GOD'S name would you match them for price when there are so few apps?????

    ..they should have been willing to lose on sales in order to make money on content....(this gets back to what I said about linking up with Amazon...which should have been done before you show your product at the trade fairs and shooting off your mouth...

    They would have lost much less money if the sold the TouchPad for $250 then for $99.....

    14. I now hear that the heads of the webOS software group all told Leo that webOS had already out grew the hardware...they told him this BEFORE the TouchPad went in to production.

    These 14 bullet points are just of the top of my head I wrote them without stopping to think of others.....now they are going to have to work far harder to try to save webOS and it very well may be to late.

    Take care,

    Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedessert View Post
    9. they should have been willing to cut a deal with Amazon and said it you use webOS on your tablet....we will cut a very, very favorable deal with you....plus Amazon has a huge pipeline. Having webOS on Amazon would give webOS a very high public acknowledgment..
    Amazon's tablet will be tightly integrated with their Android app store. There was never a chance webOS would go on that tablet, no matter what sort of deal HP offered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pk1234 View Post
    CEOs say a lot of things.
    The webOS community of all, should know this well by now.
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    What a shocker of an article - it's based on a digitimes report from the 29th august and does not mention in the slighest that the CEO of Samsung has already in the period since then stated that they are not interested in it (if you think they are interested in licensing it, please PM me, I have a great opportunity concerning a bridge).
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