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    Leo's a moron

    Todd Bradley And Jon Rubinstein Didn't Find Out About HP's Plan Until Sunday Night

    HP CEO Leo Apotheker holds his cards close to his chest -- even within the company.
    According to Kara Swisher at AllThingsD, Apotheker went to dinner with HP's PC head Todd Bradley and former WebOS head Jon Rubinstein last Sunday night.
    There, he dropped the bombshell that he was canceling the TouchPad, getting out of the Palm hardware business, and considering spinning off the PC business as well.
    HP officially announced the news yesterday before its earnings call.
    Bradley was widely considered a front-runner for the CEO job before Apotheker took over. Under his leadership, HP overtook Dell as the number-one PC maker in the world.
    But he also drove HP's acquisition of Palm -- he was Palm's CEO from 2001 to 2005 -- which in retrospect looks like a $1.2 billion mistake. (Although HP could still make its money back by selling Palm's mobile phone patents, which are probably worth a lot more now than they were in 2010, given that Nortel's storehouse just went for $4.6 billion.)
    Rubinstein was the CEO of Palm when HP bought it, and came there from Apple, so he has lots of experience in mobile consumer computing -- an area that Apotheker is clearly not interested in pursuing. He was recently replaced as the head of the WebOS group by Stephen DeWitt, who is now charged with figuring out what to do with the remnants of that business.
    The open question: will both men stick around? If not, where will they go next?
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    Everyone voiced their concern from the beginning with Leo getting the job. He was a horrible choice for HP... and now the have to swallow the medicine.
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    man, could you imagine if Bradley had gotten the job of CEO? We would be using our dual core Pre-4's right now as we speak..

    sigh..

    I'd love to see Bradley, Ruby and Dewitt quit (if they arent laid off already) and somehow pick up the HP Computing Division and WebOS buisness unit with some investment backing and start a separate company out of it.

    Call it WDFSLHP. Or, "We Dont ****ing Suck Like HP" ...now with Beats Audio!
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    they should do a management buyout and recreate Palm as an independent company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    they should do a management buyout and recreate Palm as an independent company.
    And fund it, how? At this point, who will want to touch it? The whole affair has been so mishandled that I just don't see how anyone would want to invest in New Palm, and if they could survive long enough to have a marketable handset and/or tablet, that any cell carrier in the US would pick it up, and how would they have funds to market for off-contract purchase, anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angiest View Post
    And fund it, how? At this point, who will want to touch it? The whole affair has been so mishandled that I just don't see how anyone would want to invest in New Palm, and if they could survive long enough to have a marketable handset and/or tablet, that any cell carrier in the US would pick it up, and how would they have funds to market for off-contract purchase, anywhere?
    fund it by also taking the laptop PC portfolio from HP and have the new Palm also make Windows 7 PC's as well.

    Any investment capitalist would LOVE to get their hands on the number one laptop and PC manufacturer in the world. Just say that you will throw WebOS in for free on the condition that entering the mobile space is just as important as the computing space.
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    My first PalmOS phone was a Handspring Visor. If I recall correctly, that company was started by Palm castoffs. They built some nice hardware, succeeded, and Palm merged with them, creating PalmOne before reverting to just "Palm" once again.

    I'd love to see that happen again with webOS but the world's a lot different than it was 15 years (or so) ago.
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    Hummm, I wonder if Leo paid for the dinner or left them with the bill...
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    Leo is the one made decision apparent.

    But Rubi is the one made the touchpad as is.

    The whole situation stinks, and its not one guy's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clevin View Post
    But Rubi is the one made the touchpad as is.
    I'm feeling bad for Bradly. Played by Rubi first, than by Leo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmausser View Post
    fund it by also taking the laptop PC portfolio from HP and have the new Palm also make Windows 7 PC's as well.

    Any investment capitalist would LOVE to get their hands on the number one laptop and PC manufacturer in the world. Just say that you will throw WebOS in for free on the condition that entering the mobile space is just as important as the computing space.
    Nobody wants to buy it --- and that's why they are thinking of spinning it off.

    You can't cash out --- the only companies that want to buy a PC business is the chinese and you are not going to get government approval this time. You look at the famous white house photo of Obama watching the Osama raid --- they are all HP laptops because the US government can't buy chinese made Lenovo laptops and give it to top government officials with top secret clearance.
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    I'm pretty sure some if not all of those pc's are made in China too.
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    Did Leo leave an open tab at the bar afterwards?

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
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    Quote Originally Posted by angiest View Post
    Did Leo leave an open tab at the bar afterwards?

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    The rich are not like us.

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