I have a Verizon Pre Plus running webOS 2.1. Today I just installed two patches. The PDF Redux patch and the sounds in messaging patch. I restarted my phone like normal after installing them. Now my phone is stuck in the luna reboot. I've tried pulling the battery and all. Rebooted more than once. It gets passed the linux logo but just keeps cycling through the HP luna logo. I can tell its having a problem because it glows smoothly for a bit, freezes mid glow and seems to restart the cycle. Any advice on how to get passed this? Was it the patches? Is the doctor the only choice I have?