"The application database is almost full"?

[gelobter]

Hi! I recently put webOS 2.1 on my Plussed Sprint Pre. All is working fine but I keep getting the message "Warning The application database is almost full. Tap help for infomration that explains how to free up space."

I tap help and get a blank web page. Any ideas?

thanks!

[shadavis08]

do you empty email trash folders once in a while ? if not empty every trash folder in all your email accounts

umm do you have real long text messaging convo's , if so delete them and start over . or do you have alot open message convo's , if so delete them all .

this is just for starters . do you have a lot of apps you dont need ? if so purge them out . umm i will try and think of some more things to try . there are some patches that may help you out to .

[GodShapedHole]

Application Database? That doesn't ring any bells even though I ran 2.1 on my Pre- for a while, and I didn't have *any* disk space left.

Before you delete ANYTHING, go to the Device Info app and check how much space is left on your flash drive. Maybe you still got space left and it's something else.

[Timbru]

The application database is getting full.
That's what she said, she being a Palm Pre Plus with 2.0.
And yes, there is a Help button, and yes, it opens a blank page in the Help application and shows connection error.
And no, I don't know why this happens and yes, I am still looking for a solution.

[NuttyBunny]

mmm... I don't know if this *could* help, but it would be nice to try and change the size of the mojodb partition, it's a separate place for databases and it could be the culprit.

If you want to try some harmless (and later some *potentially dangerous*) comands, you could help other people with the same problem.

Just reply if interested

-- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums

[Timbru]

Hi NuttyBunny,
I am at the point where I got the old iPhone 1 from the drawer and preparing mentally for a switch back.
So please send the potentially dangerous stuff my way, we'll see if it keeps me of loses me.

[NuttyBunny]

Originally Posted by Timbru

Hi NuttyBunny,
I am at the point where I got the old iPhone 1 from the drawer and preparing mentally for a switch back.
So please send the potentially dangerous stuff my way, we'll see if it keeps me of loses me.

Excellent, first we need to know if you have windows or Mac (or Linux), you have to install the "novacom" driver to your machine.

Go Here and download this Novacom driver installed if you don't already have it on your machine.

Then, you'll need to enable "developer mode" on your phone. This is easy, just go into card mode and type "webos20090606" without the quotes, and an icon named "Developer Mode Enabler" should appear. Tap the icon and enable Developer Mode on the screen that appears.

After this, we need the output from the following commands (type them on a cmd window (in windows) or on a terminal window (on MacOS or Linux):

novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static vgscan
novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static lvscan
novacom -w run file://bin/df -- -h

These commands are harmless, they'll show us how much space your partitions are configured with and how much space is being occupied in each one. Hopefully my suspicions will be confirmed and we may be able to grow the one containing the databases.

Please post your results. You can use the CODE tags to enclose them.



-- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums

[Timbru]

I use a Mac and good with the Terminal. I have the Novacom drivers and been using Preware for a while.

Here is the output for the commands:

[gr@Rorschach-2.local]~/novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static vgscan
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Found volume group "store" using metadata type lvm2
[gr@Rorschach-2.local]~/novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static lvscan
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/root' [456.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/var' [64.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/update' [16.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/log' [24.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/media' [13.84 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/swap' [104.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/mojodb' [144.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/filecache' [136.00 MB] inherit
[gr@Rorschach-2.local]~/novacom -w run file://bin/df -- -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root                31.0M     11.5M     19.5M  37% /boot
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    400.7M     41.0M  91% /
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    400.7M     41.0M  91% /dev/.static/dev
tmpfs                     2.0M    160.0K      1.8M   8% /dev
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M      7.9M     54.1M  13% /var
tmpfs                    32.0M    220.0K     31.8M   1% /tmp
tmpfs                    16.0M     52.0K     15.9M   0% /var/run
tmpfs                    32.0M     12.0K     32.0M   0% /var/tmp
tmpfs                   246.4M         0    246.4M   0% /media/ram
/dev/mapper/store-mojodb
                        139.5M     27.4M    112.1M  20% /var/db
/dev/mapper/store-filecache
                        127.5M     20.5M    107.0M  16% /var/file-cache
/dev/mapper/store-log
                         23.2M      7.0M     16.2M  30% /var/log
/dev/mapper/store-media
                         13.8G      9.4G      4.5G  68% /media/internal
cryptofs                 13.8G      9.4G      4.5G  68% /media/cryptofs

[NuttyBunny]

It doesn't seem like you're running out of space on any partitions so it wouldn't make sense to grow any of them.

Argh, I thought it would be easier. Anyone has another idea?

-- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums

[Timbru]

Well, that is the size after the reset. What changed:

* My mail is now set to only keep last two weeks in stead of all.
* No Preware apps, I started reinstalling them after my message.

I'll keep an eye on this and run the scripts again if the warning appears.

[Sanglant]

This is what I got on mine. I'm running a Pre+ with the 2.1 doctor. I think this alert might be due to the mounts that are at 91%. I'm looking at /dev/mapper/store-root and /dev/mapper/store-mojodb. What command would I use to increase the allocation to those 2 mounts?

C:\Users\David>novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static vgscan

  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Found volume group "store" using metadata type lvm2

C:\Users\David>novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static lvscan
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/root' [456.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/var' [64.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/update' [16.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/log' [24.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/media' [14.33 GB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/swap' [104.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/mojodb' [144.00 MB] inherit
  ACTIVE            '/dev/store/filecache' [136.00 MB] inherit

C:\Users\David>novacom -w run file://bin/df -- -h
Filesystem                Size      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root                31.0M     11.5M     19.5M  37% /boot
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /dev/.static/dev
tmpfs                     2.0M    160.0K      1.8M   8% /dev
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M     15.3M     46.7M  25% /var
/dev/mapper/store-mojodb
                        139.5M    129.7M      9.7M  93% /var/db
/dev/mapper/store-filecache
                        127.5M     63.7M     63.8M  50% /var/file-cache
/dev/mapper/store-log
                         23.2M      9.2M     14.0M  40% /var/log
tmpfs                    32.0M      1.3M     30.7M   4% /tmp
tmpfs                    16.0M     52.0K     15.9M   0% /var/run
tmpfs                    32.0M     52.0K     31.9M   0% /var/tmp
tmpfs                   246.4M         0    246.4M   0% /media/ram
/dev/mapper/store-media
                         14.3G     10.8G      3.6G  75% /media/internal
cryptofs                 14.3G     10.8G      3.6G  75% /media/cryptofs
tmpfs                    32.0M      1.3M     30.7M   4% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/tmp
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/lib
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/bin
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/bin
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/lib
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/palm/frameworks
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/palm/nodejs
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/palm/data
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/share
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/palm/services
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/usr/palm/public
tmpfs                     2.0M    160.0K      1.8M   8% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/dev/shm
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/etc/ssl
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M     15.3M     46.7M  25% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/ssl/trustedcerts
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M     15.3M     46.7M  25% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/ssl/certs
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M     15.3M     46.7M  25% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/ssl/crl
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/etc/ls2
tmpfs                     2.0M    160.0K      1.8M   8% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/dev/logdir
/dev/mapper/store-var
                         62.0M     15.3M     46.7M  25% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/luna/preferences
/dev/mapper/store-filecache
                        127.5M     63.7M     63.8M  50% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/file-cache
/dev/mapper/store-root
                        441.7M    402.8M     38.9M  91% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/etc/palm
/dev/mapper/store-media
                         14.3G     10.8G      3.6G  75% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/media/internal
cryptofs                 14.3G     10.8G      3.6G  75% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/services/org.webosinternals.
tweaks.prefs
tmpfs                    16.0M     52.0K     15.9M   0% /var/palm/jail/org.webos
internals.tweaks.prefs/var/run

C:\Users\David>

[jame91370]

Hi,

I got the same message, but in french, on my palmpre2. I got it in February in 2.0, was upgraded to 2.1 almost immediately.
Message occured only yesterday, Late May, but didn't reach so far the mandatory reboot step as others did.
Here are the outcome of the lvm and df progs:
<CODE>
C:\Users\jame>novacom -w run file://usr/sbin/lvm.static lvscan
ACTIVE '/dev/store/root' [456.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/var' [64.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/update' [16.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/log' [24.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/mojodb' [144.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/filecache' [136.00 MB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/media' [13.84 GB] inherit
ACTIVE '/dev/store/swap' [104.00 MB] inherit

C:\Users\jame>novacom -w run file://bin/df -- -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 31.0M 18.8M 12.2M 61% /boot
/dev/mapper/store-root
441.7M 405.1M 36.6M 92% /
/dev/mapper/store-root
441.7M 405.1M 36.6M 92% /dev/.static/dev
tmpfs 2.0M 164.0K 1.8M 8% /dev
/dev/mapper/store-var
62.0M 16.6M 45.4M 27% /var
/dev/mapper/store-mojodb
139.5M 124.0M 15.4M 89% /var/db
/dev/mapper/store-filecache
127.5M 52.6M 74.9M 41% /var/file-cache
/dev/mapper/store-log
23.2M 9.2M 14.0M 40% /var/log
tmpfs 32.0M 652.0K 31.4M 2% /tmp
tmpfs 16.0M 52.0K 15.9M 0% /var/run
tmpfs 32.0M 12.0K 32.0M 0% /var/tmp
tmpfs 246.4M 0 246.4M 0% /media/ram
/dev/mapper/store-media
13.8G 436.7M 13.4G 3% /media/internal
cryptofs 13.8G 436.7M 13.4G 3% /media/cryptofs
/dev/mapper/store-var
62.0M 16.6M 45.4M 27% /opt

</CODE>
Apart from starting from a brand new user, which will DELETE all data AND paid applications AND waste half a day, I don't know what to do.
Looks as others say that the database itself is getting full; questions are where is it, and is there a "compact/cleaning" option to run? If Mr HP or PALM is listening this thread?

Thanks for any help
Jame from France

[huladaddy]

I just got the message:

"Warning. The application database is full. You must restart your device. This will clear the database. After restart, sign in to your Palm Profile to restore backed up data.

Restart Now
Restart Later"


W T F !!!

[huladaddy]

OK. I was forced to reset. EVERYTHING DELETED!

Had to sign into my Palm Profile and start from scratch!!!

What is going on!

[Sanglant]

Nutty, can you help out with this?

[NuttyBunny]

Originally Posted by Sanglant

Nutty, can you help out with this?

And why me?? :P

Oh, well...

I see that webOS stores in /var/file-cache the emails and attachments. Do as Timbru, set your email to be kept in your phone for 2 weeks instead of a month or whatever you have. You should see the usage decrease.

You could go and delete everything in /var/file-cache/attachments as well, but I've never done it so your mileage may vary

[Sanglant]

Originally Posted by NuttyBunny

And why me?? :P

You seem like a smart guy. I just thought you'd be able to help. I was thinking more of the mojodb being at 93% might be the issue and thought maybe it would be possible to add space to the mount.

[NuttyBunny]

Originally Posted by Sanglant

You seem like a smart guy. I just thought you'd be able to help. I was thinking more of the mojodb being at 93% might be the issue and thought maybe it would be possible to add space to the mount.

Yep, it can be done, lemme do some tests. Perhaps you'll make your device slower if you increase the space for the databases (the db's will grow even more). But it can be done. Gimme a couple of hours

[Sanglant]

I haven't gotten that error in a little over a week, so I don't know if it's worth the headache.

[crucian4]

Have you gotten this error since? I am still getting it. For me it is the /dev/mapper/store-mojodb that keeps getting full. Anyone know what is stored there? My email accounts were set to display one day. I have since turned off both accounts. I am still getting this message. I would be willing to take the risk of finding out what negative side effects there are if any by increasing its size. I ran a df-h command in media/internal. It shows up there and shows 100% used of 139.5MB

Originally Posted by Sanglant

I haven't gotten that error in a little over a week, so I don't know if it's worth the headache.