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    Hi all, I am posting a number of articles which state that the HP Win 7 tablet may not be dead & a webOS tablet would also the market place.

    Take care, Jay

    Tablets to compete with Apple's iPad in the works

    By Brandon Bailey, bbailey@mercurynews.com, Posted: 05/03/2010 03:24:08 PM PDT, Updated: 05/05/2010 05:03:43 AM PDT

    Tablets to compete with Apple's iPad in the works - San Jose Mercury News

    The success of Apple's new iPad has prompted other tech companies to plunge into the market for tablet computers, with startups and major PC makers racing to introduce their own competing devices before the end of the year.

    Speculation is swirling around the intentions of Hewlett-Packard, the world's biggest PC maker and the company that some believe has the best shot at catching up with Apple's early iPad lead. Meanwhile, everyone from upstart Fusion Garage to established names such as Dell are jumping into the pool.

    Experts say the iPad's early sales figures — Apple said Monday that it sold 1 million in four weeks — are proof there's a strong market for such products. But it's unclear if other manufacturers can duplicate the iPad's appeal, or if Apple will dominate the market in the same way its iPods are much better known than competing music players.


    "Anybody can make a tablet. I could go to Taiwan," hire a contract manufacturer, "and make 'Bob's tablet,' " said Bob O'Donnell, an industry analyst with International Data Corp. "The hard part is doing the software and getting the applications."

    If any company has that ability, analysts say that HP, which sold nearly 60 million PCs last year, has the size and clout to line up deals with major content providers and mount a massive promotional campaign.

    "They can do that. So you have to take HP seriously," said Jayson Noland, who follows the tech industry for Robert W. Baird & Co.


    Earlier this year, even before the iPad officially went on sale, HP launched an Internet marketing campaign to promote a tablet it calls the Slate, which was designed to run on Microsoft software and which HP promised to begin selling this year. But last week's announcement that HP plans to buy smartphone maker Palm has raised questions about the Slate's future.

    HP executives say they want to use Palm's rival software, webOS, to run a variety of mobile gadgets, including smartphones, netbooks and tablet computers. Citing an unnamed source, the industry blog TechCrunch reported Friday that HP had canceled plans for the Microsoft-powered Slate.

    Although the company declined to comment on that report, HP Executive Vice President Shane Robison told the Mercury News last week that HP may "at some point" build a Slate that runs on webOS.

    The choice of software could be crucial. HP executives have previously said they believed Microsoft's newest operating system, Windows 7, offered touch capabilities and other attractive features for a tablet. But critics say Windows 7, which was designed for full-fledged computers, may be slower and consume more battery power than software created for smartphones — such as Palm's webOS, Google's Android or Apple's iPhone OS software, which is used in the iPad.


    Redesigning the Slate to run on Palm's software could delay HP's entry into the market by months or even a year, experts said.

    Industry analyst Ezra Gottheil said he still expects HP to introduce a Windows-powered Slate this year and follow later with a version running Palm's webOS. Gottheil, who tracks the PC industry for Technology Business Research, said HP could aim each model at a different audience, such as consumer or business users.

    "HP has no problem putting out multiple products," Gottheil said. "Some people have even criticized them for putting out too many products. I can't see them killing one just because another is coming up."

    While HP executives have said little about their plans, the company has released a handful of Internet videos and blog entries about the Slate — including brief promotional spots, backed by dramatic music, and short, low-key talks by HP executive Phil McKinney and Adobe Systems marketing manager Alan Tam.

    Tam's pitch hammers home a likely HP selling point: Without mentioning Apple or the iPad by name, Tam proudly notes that HP's Slate will run Internet video, games and other online content created with Adobe's Flash and Air software, which Apple's device does not.

    Apple has criticized Adobe's software as outdated, a charge that's sparked a full-blown feud between the two companies. But Flash is still widely used by Internet content developers.

    HP's videos also show a few other things the iPad lacks, including a front-facing camera for video chatting, and a slot for a memory card that can store extra photos and other content.

    But there are some things the Slate won't have, O'Donnell noted: "Apple has an unbelievable head start, with 140,000 apps that you can run on the iPad. That's going to make it a lot harder for anybody else."

    That hasn't stopped other companies from dipping their toes in the water. Fusion Garage is already selling its JooJoo tablet online. Dell has shown a prototype device with a 5-inch screen — a bigger display than any smartphone, but smaller than the 9.7-inch screen on an iPad — and is working on larger models.

    Toshiba, Asus and other manufacturers are also expected to introduce tablets running on Google's Android operating system. The New York Times reported that even Google is exploring the idea of producing its own tablet. Google declined to comment.

    Analysts say they don't expect tablets to replace other types of PCs, which have more features and capabilities. But PC makers clearly don't want to leave the tablet business to Apple.

    "People are going to choose the technology that best fits their lifestyle," said Dell spokesman Matt Parretta. "In the end, we want to build what they want."


    HP Slate May Still Be Coming Soon
    By: Ryan Fleming •May 5, 2010Share

    HP Slate May Still Be Coming Soon

    It was beginning to seem like the iPad would face little to no competition on its way to being dubbed as the one true tablet computer, the one tablet to rule them all. Microsoft’s Courier is no more, and then the rumors began to fly that HP’s purchase of Palm would signal the end of- or at least a significant delay to the Slate. Not so, says CNet.

    One of the main arguments in favor of the Slate getting the axe is that the purchase of Palm gives HP access to Palm’s webOS. It seems like an ideal fit for HP, which could end its reliance on Microsoft’s Windows 7 OS and reap the benefits of its own proprietary system. The integration of webOS into the Slate could take time though, and the deal with Palm may not be finalized until sometime this fall, which would push a webOS-powered Slate back, possibly until well into next year. But according to analysts, HP may not be opposed to releasing multiple versions of the same product.

    “I don’t think the Slate has been canceled. This is a delay, if anything,” Creative Strategies Ben Bajarin told CNet. “The question is, will they bring out different products at different price points.”

    HP has had a history of releasing multiple versions of the same product, so there is precedence. No word from HP on when (or if) the Slate will be released. The bigger issue may be how it will differentiate itself from the iPad when and if the Slate finally hits shelves.

    HP Slate killed? Not so fast

    HP Slate killed? Not so fast | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News

    by Brooke Crothers, May 5, 2010 4:00 AM PDT

    Despite glaring headlines last week that the Hewlett-Packard Windows 7-based Slate was canceled, it may not be that cut and dried, according to analysts.

    In this HP Slate promotional video made back in January, HP VP Phil McKinney says the Slate running Windows 7 is a "real product. It's not a prototype or concept. We're committed to delivering it in 2010." And this relatively long testimonial from Adobe in March says the Windows 7 HP Slate "will be available in the market later this year."

    Of course, HP can change its mind. And the acquisition of Palm and the WebOS may give HP pause. But one argument being made is that HP may bring out tablets based on Windows 7 and Palm's WebOS. HP is not averse to bringing out several different models in one product segment, as this San Jose Mercury News article points out. Ezra Gottheil, an analyst at Technology Business Research, said he believes that HP will bring out both a Windows 7 Slate and a product based on Palm's WebOS. "Vendors will experiment
    which ones are a hit," he said, in a phone interview.

    "I don't think the Slate has been canceled. This is a delay, if anything," said Ben Bajarin with Creative Strategies. "The question is, will they bring out different products at different price points." HP may opt for a Windows 7 Slate for some segments, while a hypothetical WebOS-based tablet will address others, Bajarin said.

    And it's not all upside for Palm's WebOS compared with Windows. "They will try to resuscitate the WebOS to the extent they can," said Ashok Kumar, an analyst at Rodman & Renshaw, who takes a dim view of the Palm acquisition. More broadly, he attributes the delays in tablets that compete with the iPad to a fear that a product that screams me-too is doomed. "That's DOA," he said.

    To better understand what HP may do, its Netbook product history is instructive. It was one of the first companies, back in April 2008, to market a Netbook--what HP called the 2133 Mini-Note--using a processor from VIA, not Intel. It ran FreeDOS, SuSE Linux, and the Windows Vista operating systems. Later, HP adopted Intel's Atom processor and added Windows 7 to the mix. But diversification didn't stop there. Its Mobile Thin Clients are another variation on the Netbook theme. And HP also markets a small "convertible tablet" laptop (that runs Windows 7) in the consumer space.

    There are plenty of other examples where HP blankets a product category with many distinctly different models, spanning consumer, small business, and large business.

    So, the iPad will likely have plenty of competition from HP that not even Apple, in all its market savviness, could anticipate.

    HP declined to comment.
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    apple says they sold 1 million ipads in 4 weeks but in reality the ipad has been available for pre-order since march...so thats about 9 weeks...not 4

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