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  1.    #1  
    I managed to build my first Enyo 2.2 app in Ares 0.1.3 for webOS devices.
    I used PhoneGap 2.5.0 and installed my app on a HP TouchPad 3.0.5 using the webOS quick install.
    The app runs fine on HP TouchPad

    But I tried to install the same app on my Pre3 (AT&T) 2.2.4 device too and it fails during installation with webos quick install. I did run for long time until I disconnected the cable. I also rebuild my app with "uiRevision": 1 - but no change.

    Anyone any help how to build Enyo apps with PhoneGap 2.5.0 for Pre3 ?

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    EDIT: I have used WebOSQuickInstall-4.3.1
    Last edited by MartinH@webos; 05/06/2013 at 06:54 PM. Reason: added WebOSQuickInstall-4.3.1 version - now solved
  2. #2  
    I have a few Enyo 2 apps running on my Pre 3 (although they are not made by me) and they run just fine. I do notice that sometimes an IPK doesn't install correctly via WOQI but does install correctly via palm-install. Maybe you should try that?
  3.    #3  
    Thanks, Now I tried to install with Preware 1.9.12 after downloading the app package to my Pre3.
    But the same behaviour : Installation hangs for ever - spinner runs forever.
    IPKG-Logfile displays correct Identify and then nothing more.
    In Lumperjack I see no Preware logfile entries at all - even with Log Level = info . A bit strange.

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    Now I downloaded webOSQuickInstall 4.5.0 and I still see the same issue with Pre3. For TouchPad all is fine.
    Last edited by MartinH@webos; 05/04/2013 at 02:58 PM. Reason: added webOSQuickInstall 4.5.0 info
  4. #4  
    Like I said: try it with palm-install from the command line, that gives good results here.
  5.    #5  
    Quote Originally Posted by Vistaus View Post
    Like I said: try it with palm-install from the command line, that gives good results here.
    OK - I tried palm-install too. Same issue as elsewhere ...
    Code:
    installing package bin\de.xxx.martin.test_0.0.2_all.ipk on device "mantaray-linux" {3937eaf9fa63484f7f9d73cd594293f40e90e4ed} usb 53292
    hangs for ever ..

    same command for TouchPad and 3.0.5 emulator works fine ..
  6. #6  
    Have you tried restart?

    My Pre 3 sometimes does the same (full temp or memory??), but after restart it works fine again.
  7.    #7  
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakuje View Post
    Have you tried restart?

    My Pre 3 sometimes does the same (full temp or memory??), but after restart it works fine again.
    Sure - I restarted Pre3 too. Does not help here.
    I'm able to install other apps onto Pre3 without problems.
    I was even able to install some phonegap build app (build remotely at phonegap site) on my Pre3 (ok -it installs - but yet does not work).

    So - my issue is more specific to Phonegap 2.5.0 build apps that were build local on your machine (Win7) and in specific my App is a simple "Hello world" kind of app written in Enyo 2.2 (and partly done in Ares).
    Why does such app work on HP TouchPad - but can not be installed on Pre3 ?

    Anyone tried this combination with success ?
  8. #8  
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinH@webos View Post
    Sure - I restarted Pre3 too. Does not help here.
    I'm able to install other apps onto Pre3 without problems.
    I was even able to install some phonegap build app (build remotely at phonegap site) on my Pre3 (ok -it installs - but yet does not work).

    So - my issue is more specific to Phonegap 2.5.0 build apps that were build local on your machine (Win7) and in specific my App is a simple "Hello world" kind of app written in Enyo 2.2 (and partly done in Ares).
    Why does such app work on HP TouchPad - but can not be installed on Pre3 ?

    Anyone tried this combination with success ?
    I didn't have install problems but enyo 2.2 didn't allow me to produce a working build for webOS but dropping back to 2.1 did. The 2.2 build did work on Android. I'm still exploring what the issues are.
  9. #9  
    At least you you got past the phone gap token problem. lol
    Smartphones: Nokia 5230 > Palm Pre 2 > Nokia 701 (returned) > HP Pre 3 > BB Z10 (save me from it) + HP Touchpad
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  10. #10  
    Can you not build Enyo apps without Phonegap or some other cross-platform framework anymore? Frankly I lost interest when reading the docs. I'd rather just work with Enyo natively for webOS using Chrome and palm-package to build the IPK for my Touchpad. I am not interested in cross-platform development right now.
  11. #11  
    I don't think PhoneGap can have an effect if installation works or not.
    Did you package the app with palm-package? (If you don't use services, "palm-package --use-v1-format" is the preferred version.)
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  12. #12  
    And what says instalation log on device shell? Command like

    Code:
    tail -f /var/log/messages | grep YOUR_APP_ID
    in putty or novaterm?
  13. #13  
    Most likely phonegap wouldnt have an effect. Maybe silly question -- is the thing in Developer Mode, and not in USB drive mode, right?

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  14.    #14  
    Thanks for the many replies:
    Quote Originally Posted by kayphoonstar View Post
    I didn't have install problems but enyo 2.2 didn't allow me to produce a working build for webOS but dropping back to 2.1 did. The 2.2 build did work on Android. I'm still exploring what the issues are.
    As said I have no issue to install the exact same bits on a HP TouchPad 3.0.5 - but on Pre3 2.2.4 the same fails.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattmers View Post
    At least you you got past the phone gap token problem. lol
    Yes - I had issues with my PhoneGap github linkage:
    First I registered at PhoneGap with github and I was not successful. Then I registered with a new Adobe ID and this worked better. (After confirming the Adobe ID with a link inside the registration email I found a Authentication Token in my PhoneGap account.)
    Still my remote PhoneGap build did not work yet. For the example in this thread I use a locally installed phonegap 2.5.0. This Ares 0.1.3 provided deploy script does create a webOS .ipk install package at the bin subfolder using this command line: tools\deploy.bat --cordova-webos

    Quote Originally Posted by Grabber5.0 View Post
    Can you not build Enyo apps without Phonegap or some other cross-platform framework anymore? Frankly I lost interest when reading the docs. I'd rather just work with Enyo natively for webOS using Chrome and palm-package to build the IPK for my Touchpad. I am not interested in cross-platform development right now.
    I assume that phonegap uses some palm-package command internally too - but not sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcworld View Post
    I don't think PhoneGap can have an effect if installation works or not.
    Did you package the app with palm-package? (If you don't use services, "palm-package --use-v1-format" is the preferred version.)
    Thanks for the hint. So far I have not used it explicitly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakuje View Post
    And what says instalation log on device shell? Command like

    Code:
    tail -f /var/log/messages | grep YOUR_APP_ID
    in putty or novaterm?
    I had not done that yet. But now I did this in wterm on the Pre3 device while installing the app again.
    And surprise .. now the same app installs fine on my Pre3.
    And it actually runs ok as well. ..
    (Not sure if this was related to this tail command at all. Perhaps it just worked today for some reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by eblade View Post
    Most likely phonegap wouldnt have an effect. Maybe silly question -- is the thing in Developer Mode, and not in USB drive mode, right?
    yes - in Dev Mode.


    Sorry guys .. for the confusion - Now the install and execution works ok.
    So far I have no idea what was going wrong the other day.
  15. #15  
    So I'm guessing your planning to make an app in the future. What kinda app are you planning on making if I may ask?
    Smartphones: Nokia 5230 > Palm Pre 2 > Nokia 701 (returned) > HP Pre 3 > BB Z10 (save me from it) + HP Touchpad
    Cars: 1993 Subaru Impreza AWD > 2007 Saab 9-3 2.0T


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  16.    #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by mattmers View Post
    So I'm guessing your planning to make an app in the future. What kinda app are you planning on making if I may ask?
    Sure - I plan creating apps. And my primary target platform is webOS and existing webOS devices. (Perhaps Android later too)
    But I want to create apps for personal use mainly. My home contains a number of electrical connected sensors and actors. I want to use my app to control and visualize this environment.

    Now that Ares for Enyo is about to be available for production it is a great time to get started with Ares.
  17. #17  
    I don't want to start a religious debate, but for webOS phones I'm sticking with Mojo.
  18.    #18  
    Quote Originally Posted by Grabber5.0 View Post
    I don't want to start a religious debate, but for webOS phones I'm sticking with Mojo.
    That's fine for existing phones and if you know Mojo.
    I also did a few Mojo apps for Pre +/2/3 and TouchPad - all with the help of Ares1.
    Now finally Ares2 is getting ready and allows me to do Enyo apps. (I was looking for this for 2 years now.)
    My simple Enyo app runs smooth on Pre3.

    I assume that future webos phones (if they ever come) will also implement Enyo apps.
    Not sure if Mojo for phones will remain in future.
  19. #19  
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinH@webos View Post
    That's fine for existing phones and if you know Mojo.
    I also did a few Mojo apps for Pre +/2/3 and TouchPad - all with the help of Ares1.
    Now finally Ares2 is getting ready and allows me to do Enyo apps. (I was looking for this for 2 years now.)
    My simple Enyo app runs smooth on Pre3.

    I assume that future webos phones (if they ever come) will also implement Enyo apps.
    Not sure if Mojo for phones will remain in future.
    Mojo was not Open Sourced and will most likely never be.

    So it will never be officially supported on any OWO port, however I understood that you can load 3rd party JavaScript frameworks (there's even something called "MojoLoader" in OWO GitHub) and a small bird told me that it should be possible to side-load Mojo on OWO, even though it's not allowed to redistribute it in an image etc due to copyrights
  20. #20  
    Mojo may have been at least partially dependent on functions in the webos 2 and 3 sysmgr that are no longer there, also. Some thkngs may work, some things may be irreperably broken.

    I am seriously looking forward to building a new synergv user interface with the newest version of Ares.

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    GO OPEN WEBOS!
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