Questions about porting WebOS to Android phone - Page 2

knightflores · 10/30/2010, 01:38 AM

darn it rod dont be such a square... u know u want this as bad we do lol... jk you make a very valid point and i would hate to lose the backing of HP/Palm over this

rwhitby · 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mrinehart93

So far, I have downloaded all the package sources and patches from Palm's WebOS 1.4.5 Open Source Packages page.

OK, that will get you to a Linux userspace shell, with no user interface and no webOS services. Just about everything you know as "webOS" on top of that is proprietary.

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Am I to follow the guide on compiling custom kernels for WebOS, and then begin to port the kernel over? Or should I be compiling the kernel as if it were a regular desktop linux kernel, but patched for ARM?

To build a kernel (on a Ubuntu Linux host):

git clone git://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build.git
cd build
make toolchain
cd kernels/uber-kernel-pre
make

Once you get to that point, you should look at the files in arch/arm/mach-omap3pe/ (especially board-sirloin-3430.c and similar files) and start porting the device drivers over to the target hardware platform.

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I'm also wondering about how WebOS will be booted once the kernel is ported, but I will wait on that until I can get the kernel worked out.

There is no legal way to boot webOS on the Linux userspace that you will end up with.

So, assuming that your intentions are to do this legally, the best way is to contact the folks at http://www.freesmartphone.org/ and use the build system they have, and then write the code to recreate the webOS user experience without using proprietary code.

http://wiki.freesmartphone.org/index...Jan_2010_-_%3F

-- Rod

c_legaspi · 11/06/2010, 11:39 AM

im all for bringing webos to other phones. dont let the debbie downers bring you down.

Jeffmcc · 11/06/2010, 03:50 PM

sorta like how on XDA android is getting booted on winmo phones. Or android on iphone. Or hackntosh computers. Or windows on macs.

@ rod is doing any of this illegal? Or like on the front pages of PC this story about how people are running their webOS apps on the N900...

rwhitby · 11/06/2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffmcc

sorta like how on XDA android is getting booted on winmo phones. Or android on iphone. Or hackntosh computers. Or windows on macs.

@ rod is doing any of this illegal? Or like on the front pages of PC this story about how people are running their webOS apps on the N900...

Individuals doing on their own devices is usually not a problem. Publishing instructions for other people to do it is usually ok too.

Publicly redistributing ROMz which contain the proprietary copyright IP of others is definitely illegal.

Most groups seem to take the easy, illegal route.

The developers who have started this effort have now stated that they won't be using any proprietary Palm webOS files.

-- Rod

tdo · 11/20/2010, 06:45 AM

Userland webos on top of a kernel compiled for the tab. Anybody from the homebrew thinking of such ports?

Arthur Thornton · 11/20/2010, 10:37 AM

No, because webOS is closed source proprietary, and currently doesn't scale to those resolutions.

sapient2k7 · 11/20/2010, 11:38 AM

That would be against webOS internals policy. WebOS is palm' s intellectual property.

**HelloNNNewman** · 11/20/2010, 01:17 PM

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khazoury · 08/22/2011, 12:14 PM

Now that things have changed and HP wants to license, I cringe hearing why anyone would want to port Android to the Touchpad. What happened to the guys who wanted to port webOS to another phone? Now is the time to try that with version 3.0, since HP took out the gesture area, it should be much easier to port it to a phone with better specs, but on the same chipset. Also, since HP mentioned maybe rewriting webOS for other chipsets, that would allow more opportunities to port to other phones, maybe iPhone? How about it webOS internals? Think it's possible?

And now that webOS tablets have finally made it to the masses, many who have no clue what webOS is, this is when the Homebrew community can really shine. I think we need to have a telethon to support our guys!!!

edn333 · 09/29/2011, 11:14 PM

I wish someone would just hand webOS over to Internals & give them a huge chunk of cash to develop 2 devices. I bet those guys could save webos.

toofast4yourazz · 10/06/2011, 07:27 PM

oh please please webOS internals... Please do this!... I want webOS on nice new hardware!!

is this a possibility or a pipe dream?

10/30/2010, 01:38 AM	#21 (permalink)
knightflores Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Naval Station Norfolk Posts: 211 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 6 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts	darn it rod dont be such a square... u know u want this as bad we do lol... jk you make a very valid point and i would hate to lose the backing of HP/Palm over this
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c_legaspi Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 470 Likes Received: 16 Thanks: 10 Thanked 33 Times in 28 Posts	im all for bringing webos to other phones. dont let the debbie downers bring you down.
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11/20/2010, 06:45 AM	#26 (permalink)
tdo Homebrew Developer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 11 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	porting webos on galaxy tab Userland webos on top of a kernel compiled for the tab. Anybody from the homebrew thinking of such ports?
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Arthur Thornton Homebrew Developer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 1,218 Likes Received: 8 Thanks: 1,046 Thanked 485 Times in 260 Posts	No, because webOS is closed source proprietary, and currently doesn't scale to those resolutions. __________________ Arthur Thornton webOS Application Engineer, Appstuh Writer, webOS Nation My Websites: http://www.arthurthornton.net My apps: Sparrow for Twitter Voice Memos
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sapient2k7 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Durham Posts: 697 Likes Received: 17 Thanks: 510 Thanked 79 Times in 60 Posts	That would be against webOS internals policy. WebOS is palm' s intellectual property.
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08/22/2011, 12:14 PM	#30 (permalink)
khazoury Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 86 Likes Received: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Now that things have changed and HP wants to license, I cringe hearing why anyone would want to port Android to the Touchpad. What happened to the guys who wanted to port webOS to another phone? Now is the time to try that with version 3.0, since HP took out the gesture area, it should be much easier to port it to a phone with better specs, but on the same chipset. Also, since HP mentioned maybe rewriting webOS for other chipsets, that would allow more opportunities to port to other phones, maybe iPhone? How about it webOS internals? Think it's possible? And now that webOS tablets have finally made it to the masses, many who have no clue what webOS is, this is when the Homebrew community can really shine. I think we need to have a telethon to support our guys!!!
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09/29/2011, 11:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
edn333 Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 4 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	give webOS to Internals! I wish someone would just hand webOS over to Internals & give them a huge chunk of cash to develop 2 devices. I bet those guys could save webos.
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10/06/2011, 07:27 PM	#32 (permalink)
toofast4yourazz Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 81 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	oh please please webOS internals... Please do this!... I want webOS on nice new hardware!! is this a possibility or a pipe dream?
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