F105 Thunderchief (alpha) - Page 52

dballew · 07/13/2010, 04:40 PM

Using navagation is usually the reason that I have it on the car charger in the first place since Sprint Navagation eats up the battery pretty quickly. I would like to see "screenstate" mean just that...low speed when off, high speed when on....just makes sense to me. Regardless of it being on a charger or usb or what ever. My two cents....Thanks

adactuslatem · 07/13/2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dballew

Using navagation is usually the reason that I have it on the car charger in the first place since Sprint Navagation eats up the battery pretty quickly. I would like to see "screenstate" mean just that...low speed when off, high speed when on....just makes sense to me. Regardless of it being on a charger or usb or what ever. My two cents....Thanks

Just remember though, when charging there is heat generated with the energy transfer, you don't want your phone to heat up that much when its running at twice the original frequency.

unixpsycho · 07/13/2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adactuslatem

Just remember though, when charging there is heat generated with the energy transfer, you don't want your phone to heat up that much when its running at twice the original frequency.

Thank you for saying that.

I am not going to be responsible for people frying their phones from overheating on the charger. Charging with over 500mA causes the battery to heat up along with the heat caused by the CPU running at twice the original frequency. Then add to that the heat generated by the 3G radio if doing alot of transmission.

There have been times where I was testing some kernels without these safeguards and the temp rose into the high 60's.

laingman · 07/13/2010, 05:11 PM

So I installed the testing feed but still can't find the F105 . Any advice?

brennan7 · 07/13/2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by unixpsycho

Thank you for saying that.

I am not going to be responsible for people frying their phones from overheating on the charger. Charging with over 500mA causes the battery to heat up along with the heat caused by the CPU running at twice the original frequency. Then add to that the heat generated by the 3G radio if doing alot of transmission.

There have been times where I was testing some kernels without these safeguards and the temp rose into the high 60's.

not sure if its been added or is planned on being added, or if anyone has said this already. but for TS charging, i created a profile in govnah to run at 500 max/min. select that profile when on the ts and it doesn't heat up much past 35C

brennan7 · 07/13/2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by laingman

So I installed the testing feed but still can't find the F105 . Any advice?

paste the testing feed link in a web browser (on a pc of course) and scroll thru and find it. download it and install with wosqi

dballew · 07/13/2010, 05:14 PM

Well everybody's cases are probably different. My in-car phone holder sits right on top of a vent and the phone temp usually runs in the high 20's during this time. And no, you are not responsible if "I" fry my phone. Just wishing for more options, thats all. You are doing fantastic work with the kernel. And we will keep testing...
p.s. I overclock my computers as well...to a point that is.

djprelude · 07/13/2010, 05:22 PM

ok ive been using this since version -47. havent reported before cause i have had absolutely no problems. i updated to -74 as soon as it came out and i am noticing with the new update that my tone for text messages doesnt always go off. once i noticed it i stared it while i received texts just to make sure i wasnt trippin. im gonna try restarting and uninstalling if restarting doesnt work and ill report back.

Thanks for the great work everyone!

unixpsycho · 07/13/2010, 07:07 PM

Guys/Chicks,

There are 2 nagging problems here. 1) sound problems, 2) spontaneous reboots.

For the sound problems; When did it start happening? Was it always that way? When does it happen? Are there patches installed that mess with the sound?

Reboots; Is this a full device reboot or a Luna restart? I know some of you said Luna restarts. Again, is this patch related or not?

I dont see these bugs on my test device and I beat on my phone pretty heavily and I dont have patches installed.

We need to get these resolved or this will never end up in Uber. The reason why I do open testing without testing guidelines is to shake out bugs from normal day to day usage outside of a lab environment. While this has worked well I cant get a good read on these 2 problems as they are vague in being reported. Did downgrading happen in Uber? in Stock?

xadjustx · 07/13/2010, 07:18 PM

The volume thing happened to me today, and I took noticed. My Govnah settings were 128mb Compache. I had Music Remix, Facebook Beta, Camera, Engadget, Messaging, Email, and Need for Speed. I seen I had the message but the ringer never went off.

brennan7 · 07/13/2010, 07:27 PM

i haven't had a single reboot on any of the f105 releases. and the audio problem doesn't necessarily affect me because i keep it on vibrate 24/7. i'll give a shot at putting it so it rings and see if any problems arise

calgemini · 07/13/2010, 07:28 PM

i love the kernels, its just im having problems with Govnah freezing on me n then my pre over heating! i will install the kernel thru preware n it works fine for a half a day n then a text or phone call will come in while charging n then the hole thing goes to SHHHHHoooot lol! i was wondering if you might have a solution to keep Govnah going that i think is the real key to my success.

unixpsycho · 07/13/2010, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgemini

i love the kernels, its just im having problems with Govnah freezing on me n then my pre over heating! i will install the kernel thru preware n it works fine for a half a day n then a text or phone call will come in while charging n then the hole thing goes to SHHHHHoooot lol! i was wondering if you might have a solution to keep Govnah going that i think is the real key to my success.

That's a Govnah problem. It freezes on me too. It starts hogging CPU in the background. You might want to mention that in the Govnah thread.

calgemini · 07/13/2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by unixpsycho

That's a Govnah problem. It freezes on me too. It starts hogging CPU in the background. You might want to mention that in the Govnah thread.

so do u have a heating problem or is it under the 42degree range??

**mamouton** · 08:00 PM

Unix I am just getting the Luna restarts I just put my Pre on my touchstone and look over and it is doing a Luna Restart. I have no patches installed due to waiting for the update. I can't pinpoint why it happens I can be trying to dial out and get a luna restart. I haven't had the spontaneous reboot at all just luna restarts. I can't give you instances when it happens because it is so random. I can pull the logs if you like just let me know.

Quote:

2010-07-14T00:42:37.912689Z [60640] palm-webos-device kern.debug kernel: [60640.090000] IPT_PACKET_DROPPED_NO_MATCH: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:15:f2:19:a8:bb:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.6 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=152 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=59938 PROTO=UDP SPT=17500 DPT=17500 LEN=132

2010-07-14T00:42:37.915100Z [60640] palm-webos-device kern.debug kernel: [60640.090000] IPT_PACKET_DROPPED_NO_MATCH: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:15:f2:19:a8:bb:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.6 DST=192.168.1.255 LEN=152 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=128 ID=59939 PROTO=UDP SPT=17500 DPT=17500 LEN=132

This is the log related to the kernel just before the luna restart.

unixpsycho · 07/13/2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgemini

so do u have a heating problem or is it under the 42degree range??

It stays around 41. When it hangs you have to kill the runaway process manually by CLI or reboot. It was never recommended to keep Govnah running anyway.

unixpsycho · 07/13/2010, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamouton

Unix I am just getting the Luna restarts I just put my Pre on my touchstone and look over and it is doing a Luna Restart. I have no patches installed due to waiting for the update. I can't pinpoint why it happens I can be trying to dial out and get a luna restart. I haven't had the spontaneous reboot at all just luna restarts. I can't give you instances when it happens because it is so random. I can pull the logs if you like just let me know.

So it happens when running at 500MHz on the TS or charging?

**mamouton** · 08:05 PM

It happens running at 1005mhz this is the first time I saw the luna restart when placing it on the touchstone so if it has happened before I can't say. I don't leave cards open so it would look the same if I was to look back at it.

unix I have the entire log file saved let me know if you want me to send that to you.

calgemini · 07/13/2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixpsycho

It stays around 41. When it hangs you have to kill the runaway process manually by CLI or reboot. It was never recommended to keep Govnah running anyway.

ok so i wont run govnah all the time i will just select whatever mode i want then close n what about having the battery monitor running, i do this so that i can see my cpu temp. all i see over these post are watch ur temp!

**mamouton** · 07/13/2010, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgemini

ok so i wont run govnah all the time i will just select whatever mode i want then close n what about having the battery monitor running, i do this so that i can see my cpu temp. all i see over these post are watch ur temp!

Jason has made several patches to monitor the cpu temp. Once 1.4.5 hits I am reinstalling all the patches I had.

07/13/2010, 04:40 PM	#1021 (permalink)
dballew Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 96 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Using navagation is usually the reason that I have it on the car charger in the first place since Sprint Navagation eats up the battery pretty quickly. I would like to see "screenstate" mean just that...low speed when off, high speed when on....just makes sense to me. Regardless of it being on a charger or usb or what ever. My two cents....Thanks
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07/13/2010, 05:11 PM	#1024 (permalink)
laingman Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,131 Likes Received: 76 Thanks: 38 Thanked 141 Times in 94 Posts	So I installed the testing feed but still can't find the F105 . Any advice?
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07/13/2010, 05:14 PM	#1027 (permalink)
dballew Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 96 Likes Received: 1 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Well everybody's cases are probably different. My in-car phone holder sits right on top of a vent and the phone temp usually runs in the high 20's during this time. And no, you are not responsible if "I" fry my phone. Just wishing for more options, thats all. You are doing fantastic work with the kernel. And we will keep testing... p.s. I overclock my computers as well...to a point that is.
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07/13/2010, 05:22 PM	#1028 (permalink)
djprelude Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ragley, La Posts: 89 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 57 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	ok ive been using this since version -47. havent reported before cause i have had absolutely no problems. i updated to -74 as soon as it came out and i am noticing with the new update that my tone for text messages doesnt always go off. once i noticed it i stared it while i received texts just to make sure i wasnt trippin. im gonna try restarting and uninstalling if restarting doesnt work and ill report back. Thanks for the great work everyone!
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07/13/2010, 07:07 PM	#1029 (permalink)
unixpsycho Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,331 Likes Received: 20 Thanks: 52 Thanked 1,371 Times in 348 Posts	Guys/Chicks, There are 2 nagging problems here. 1) sound problems, 2) spontaneous reboots. For the sound problems; When did it start happening? Was it always that way? When does it happen? Are there patches installed that mess with the sound? Reboots; Is this a full device reboot or a Luna restart? I know some of you said Luna restarts. Again, is this patch related or not? I dont see these bugs on my test device and I beat on my phone pretty heavily and I dont have patches installed. We need to get these resolved or this will never end up in Uber. The reason why I do open testing without testing guidelines is to shake out bugs from normal day to day usage outside of a lab environment. While this has worked well I cant get a good read on these 2 problems as they are vague in being reported. Did downgrading happen in Uber? in Stock? __________________ Live free or DIE!
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07/13/2010, 07:18 PM	#1030 (permalink)
xadjustx Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 103 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	The volume thing happened to me today, and I took noticed. My Govnah settings were 128mb Compache. I had Music Remix, Facebook Beta, Camera, Engadget, Messaging, Email, and Need for Speed. I seen I had the message but the ringer never went off.
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07/13/2010, 07:27 PM	#1031 (permalink)
brennan7 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 685 Likes Received: 3 Thanks: 18 Thanked 107 Times in 69 Posts	i haven't had a single reboot on any of the f105 releases. and the audio problem doesn't necessarily affect me because i keep it on vibrate 24/7. i'll give a shot at putting it so it rings and see if any problems arise
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07/13/2010, 07:28 PM	#1032 (permalink)
calgemini Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	new kernels????? i love the kernels, its just im having problems with Govnah freezing on me n then my pre over heating! i will install the kernel thru preware n it works fine for a half a day n then a text or phone call will come in while charging n then the hole thing goes to SHHHHHoooot lol! i was wondering if you might have a solution to keep Govnah going that i think is the real key to my success.
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07/13/2010, 07:48 PM	#1038 (permalink)
mamouton Forum Leader Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,771 Likes Received: 5 Thanks: 796 Thanked 1,165 Times in 801 Posts	It happens running at 1005mhz this is the first time I saw the luna restart when placing it on the touchstone so if it has happened before I can't say. I don't leave cards open so it would look the same if I was to look back at it. unix I have the entire log file saved let me know if you want me to send that to you. __________________ My contributions to customizing the Palm Pre. Browser Mega Mix\|Email Mega Mix\|Additional Sync Days\| Disable Various Phone Sounds\|Priority Discard Buttons\| Sign up for SugarSync Get 500MB extra space Sign up for Dropbox Get 250MB extra space Last edited by mamouton; 07/13/2010 at 08:05 PM.
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